Has Apple made a single announcement on this device?
I know that many reporters and analysts have been swirling around this "rumor", but rumors can be out there just to confuse competitors. Debate about form factor, pricing and release dates are pure speculation and intentionally contradictory.
Having an iPhone, there is no way in god's green earth that I would pop for another 3G contract with any carrier. In addition, I don't see this as a device that I use for my 24/7 connetivity. That's what my iPhone is for. Wifi on the device will be just fine, and I'll pocket the extra $1K in carrier profit, thank you. More than makes up for a few hundred dollars of unsubsidized price.
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
Has Apple made a single announcement on this device?
I know that many reporters and analysts have been swirling around this "rumor", but rumors can be out there just to confuse competitors. Debate about form factor, pricing and release dates are pure speculation and intentionally contradictory.
Relax folks.
True enough. But it's fun to speculate, no?
More to the point, I doubt there is so much specific speculation about a device such as this, without some underlying facts/data.
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
A 10" touch would be just fine with me. With 4 iphones in the family that's $120/month for internet plus another $35 for the wired at home. It's getting ridiculou$.
Apple will, no doubt, be aiming at the higher end of the market. They're gonna compete against netbooks that range in price between $300 and $500. I would bet the tablet comes in at $600.
...how much ya wanna bet that "irrevalent" turns into "sell advice" if a tablet doesn't show up by March 2010, and Apple stock takes a nose-dive if all of this rumor-mongering turns out to be just that: rumors.
"What tablet?... who from Apple has ever said we were making one?"... and boom!... the stock goes back to 150.- or lower.
PS: hey... your "Tent-Cities" are even making the news here in Germany. Not looking good...
Well there isn't enough people who have a need for such a device at this time.
What Apple is trying to find, is a need for the tablet and trying to get cooperation of others that will make a the iTablet a success.
A tablet is just a tablet without content or purpose.
Apple tends to complicate things as well. Any device they seem to make always require attention, a learning curve, backups or updates or something else to focus your attention. It's like a low grade version of Windows.
People just want a device that solves their problem and requires little or no attention.
Also people are looking for things to do that makes them or saves them money, not much into things that cost them money.
Although the recent jobs number is flat, this just means employers are keeping their staff for the holiday buying season where almost 50% of a years sales occurs, after that, come the new year, expect the unemployment rate to skyrocket.
It's going to be bad, real bad.
And it's going to stay that way until we vote out the liberal socialist sub-prime causing mess members of Congress who forced Freddie and Fannie in 2005 to get into the sub-prime market.
I'm sorry, you just can't give a house to people who can't afford it on the backs of everyone else.
The sub-prime mess started with California liberal companies and banks and reached into the Congress when it switched parties.
Sorry about the rant, but if people are paying too much or underwater on their mortgages, they certainly don't have as much to spend on luxuries or new computer toys like a iTablet.
When the government starts raising the property taxes, expect the rents to go up and tent cities to pop up like it is already happening in California.
Well at least you're consistent. Neither the relevant nor irrelevant parts of your rant make any sense at all.
BTW, the 'Birther' threads are elsewhere. Go join your fellow loons.
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
Ahh.. If the carriers are smart, those who sell both the iPhone and the Tableta will offer:
1) unsubsidized devices
2) stand-alone subsidized devices
3) shared plan across multiple devices
The latter would be kind of a "family plan for devices". It could be tiered based on usage and/or the number of devices)
Lots of chances [for the carriers] to be creative, here, and change their image from "necessary-evil bad guy" to one of "partner" who tailors the plan to suit your needs"
Just think of what is going on over at Microsoft...
I bet Steve Ballmer would be pulling the hair out of his head! If he had any...
What are you talking about? Microsoft is a software company. Why would he be even concerned with such a niche product? Apple doesn't compete with Microsoft and vice versa no matter what Justin Long and the unholy three on AI tell you- the are two totally different markets.
What are you talking about? Microsoft is a software company. Why would he be even concerned with such a niche product? Apple doesn't compete with Microsoft and vice versa no matter what Justin Long and the unholy three on AI tell you- the are two totally different markets.
While I don't think Balmer is pulling out any non existent hairs on his head. It was clearly in reference to the Courier concept, so the comment was quite relevant. The Xbox, Zune and others also put Microsoft in the CE devices market, and if they don't care about niche markets, why does the ZuneHD exist? It is essentially a dedicated PMP with some additional features tacked on at a time when the dedicated PMP is being relegated to niche status.
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I know that many reporters and analysts have been swirling around this "rumor", but rumors can be out there just to confuse competitors. Debate about form factor, pricing and release dates are pure speculation and intentionally contradictory.
Relax folks.
Having an iPhone, there is no way in god's green earth that I would pop for another 3G contract with any carrier. In addition, I don't see this as a device that I use for my 24/7 connetivity. That's what my iPhone is for. Wifi on the device will be just fine, and I'll pocket the extra $1K in carrier profit, thank you. More than makes up for a few hundred dollars of unsubsidized price.
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
Has Apple made a single announcement on this device?
I know that many reporters and analysts have been swirling around this "rumor", but rumors can be out there just to confuse competitors. Debate about form factor, pricing and release dates are pure speculation and intentionally contradictory.
Relax folks.
True enough. But it's fun to speculate, no?
More to the point, I doubt there is so much specific speculation about a device such as this, without some underlying facts/data.
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
A 10" touch would be just fine with me. With 4 iphones in the family that's $120/month for internet plus another $35 for the wired at home. It's getting ridiculou$.
"What tablet?... who from Apple has ever said we were making one?"... and boom!... the stock goes back to 150.- or lower.
PS: hey... your "Tent-Cities" are even making the news here in Germany. Not looking good...
Typo alert!
Should be:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
... but a sale price of no more than $700 could significantly reduce its potential sales, a new report has predicted. ...
How about, "a sale price of less than $700 would significanty increase its potential sales"?
We don't want no stinking tablet!
Well there isn't enough people who have a need for such a device at this time.
What Apple is trying to find, is a need for the tablet and trying to get cooperation of others that will make a the iTablet a success.
A tablet is just a tablet without content or purpose.
Apple tends to complicate things as well. Any device they seem to make always require attention, a learning curve, backups or updates or something else to focus your attention. It's like a low grade version of Windows.
People just want a device that solves their problem and requires little or no attention.
Also people are looking for things to do that makes them or saves them money, not much into things that cost them money.
Although the recent jobs number is flat, this just means employers are keeping their staff for the holiday buying season where almost 50% of a years sales occurs, after that, come the new year, expect the unemployment rate to skyrocket.
It's going to be bad, real bad.
And it's going to stay that way until we vote out the liberal socialist sub-prime causing mess members of Congress who forced Freddie and Fannie in 2005 to get into the sub-prime market.
I'm sorry, you just can't give a house to people who can't afford it on the backs of everyone else.
The sub-prime mess started with California liberal companies and banks and reached into the Congress when it switched parties.
Sorry about the rant, but if people are paying too much or underwater on their mortgages, they certainly don't have as much to spend on luxuries or new computer toys like a iTablet.
When the government starts raising the property taxes, expect the rents to go up and tent cities to pop up like it is already happening in California.
Well at least you're consistent. Neither the relevant nor irrelevant parts of your rant make any sense at all.
BTW, the 'Birther' threads are elsewhere. Go join your fellow loons.
Pricing for any object that is perceived to fill some buyers determined need will always be intrinsic.
In other words, if they think they need it, they will buy it - regardless of the price.
Or don't you remember all the "analysts" that pre-determined that the original iPhone would fail because of it's price?
- Rumors on high-end graphics,
- Apple Store, hosted by Louvre Museum with its students being doing sketching here and there
suggest obvious use-case for that device , which is gonna be executed by mobile artists and designers of all kinds.Love Apple or Hate Apple, the eyes of the tech world definitely are looking ...
Mmm... The eyes of Techies are upon you...
That has a pleasant ring to it!
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I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
Just have an unsubsidized version (possibly without 3G at all, like the touch) and allow tethering between the tablet and an iPhone.
We don't want no stinking tablet!
So are you saying that you want a stinking tabled? Why would you want that? Doesn't the iPhone stink enough already?
I would imagine there is some sort of cross-subsidy for those who own both?
Ahh.. If the carriers are smart, those who sell both the iPhone and the Tableta will offer:
1) unsubsidized devices
2) stand-alone subsidized devices
3) shared plan across multiple devices
The latter would be kind of a "family plan for devices". It could be tiered based on usage and/or the number of devices)
Lots of chances [for the carriers] to be creative, here, and change their image from "necessary-evil bad guy" to one of "partner" who tailors the plan to suit your needs"
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Typo alert!
This:
Should be:
The article's wording is correct ... meaning if it costs any more than $700, people will lose interest.
These rumours are getting crazy.
You think these rumors are getting you crazy...
Just think of what is going on over at Microsoft...
I bet Steve Ballmer would be pulling the hair out of his head! If he had any...
You think these rumors are getting you crazy...
Just think of what is going on over at Microsoft...
I bet Steve Ballmer would be pulling the hair out of his head! If he had any...
What are you talking about? Microsoft is a software company. Why would he be even concerned with such a niche product? Apple doesn't compete with Microsoft and vice versa no matter what Justin Long and the unholy three on AI tell you- the are two totally different markets.
Assuming the tablet is 3x the size of the iPod touch implies a bill of materials for the tablet of around $480.
How scientific!
How scientific!
So $179 is to $700 as $480 is to $1,876. Less subsidy - it should cost you $1,500 to $1,600 with a 2 year contract.
What are you talking about? Microsoft is a software company. Why would he be even concerned with such a niche product? Apple doesn't compete with Microsoft and vice versa no matter what Justin Long and the unholy three on AI tell you- the are two totally different markets.
While I don't think Balmer is pulling out any non existent hairs on his head. It was clearly in reference to the Courier concept, so the comment was quite relevant. The Xbox, Zune and others also put Microsoft in the CE devices market, and if they don't care about niche markets, why does the ZuneHD exist? It is essentially a dedicated PMP with some additional features tacked on at a time when the dedicated PMP is being relegated to niche status.