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Apple addresses numerous issues with iWork '09 9.0.3 update
Apple on Monday released iWork '09 Update 3, bringing a number of fixes and improvements for the first-party suite of applications.
iWork 9.0.3 is recommended for users of iWork 9.0, 9.0.1 and 9.0.2. The 59.62MB download is available from Apple or via Software Update. It requires Mac OS X 10.4.11 or Mac OS X 10.5.6 and later. Issues addressed by iWork Update 3, according to Apple, include: All iWork 9.0.3 Applications Addresses general compatibility issues Updates the help Adds a link to online resources in the Help menu Improves image handling when reducing the file size of images with Instant Alpha applied Improves file size management when inserting some movies Keynote 5.0.3 Improves the reliability of guides by changing the display frequency and relevance Resolves an issue with GarageBand exports Fixes an issue when working with Move actions in chart builds Addresses an issue with the preview of some charts in the Build inspector Resolves an issue when pasting a Numbers table that has cells with wrap turned on Resolves an issue where pasting multiple cells containing duration or date/time values into the Chart Data Editor would only paste zeros Fixes an issue with Sleep when the computer’s battery has completely discharged while playing a presentation Resolves an issue with updating thumbnail previews in Navigator view after sending a presentation via Mail as PDF or PowerPoint Improves reliability when dragging and dropping text in Outline view Adds a presentation preference for showing the slide switcher when scrolling Pages 4.0.3 Resolves an issue where copying and pasting multiple cells containing duration or date/time values in the Chart Data Editor would only paste zeros Improves reliability when working with objects in Full-Screen mode Fixes an issue with saving documents with EndNote citations containing multi-byte characters when using Mac OS X 10.6 Resolves an issue with EndNote citations when using Mail Merge Numbers 2.0.3 Fixes an issue with columns and categorized checkboxes Addresses an issue with categories and CSV export Improves reliability of import and export of some Microsoft Excel files Addresses an issue that could cause formulas to stop working after formatting a cell Fixes an issue with hiding or deleting rows in categorized tables Improves reliability when reverting a document to the saved version Addresses an issue caused by quitting without saving after editing some templates Fixes an issue with deleting table columns containing chart data Resolves an issue that prevented dropping an audio file into a media placeholder iWork.com Beta Enhances security with 128-bit SSL encryption and document password protection Improves document reviewing capabilities with Comment notification features E-mail invitations are now sent via iWork.com instead of using Mac OS X Mail |
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I just downloaded the trial from Apple, I'm looking to get out of MS Office. I hope this is as good as the reviews I've been reading.
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Been using iWork.com lately. Very useful. Seems to be rather underrated, though.
(Formerly LTD on Neowin.net) (currently *LTD* on Macrumors.com)
Mac OS users have made a conscious technology choice and are therefore typically better informed than their peers. -- Paul Thurrott, winsupersite.com, December 06, 2004 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Slowly weaning myself from MS-Office. I like Pages and slowly getting used to Numbers. Haven't used Keynote yet, but haven't had occasion to. Overall I'm glad I made the switch.
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No iWork '08 update? :-(
I didn't find enough new features to go to '09 (a.k.a. a bundled database app). We probably won't get one either because of FileMaker's Bento app. I just don't understand why Apple doesn't fold in FileMaker and round-out iWork with Bento. iWork X maybe out next year and I'll upgrade then. ![]()
Tory Hagen
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Location: Philadelphia
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I just wish Keynote and Pages would open and save files more quickly. It's gotten better with each iteration, but opening a large Keynote file is painfully slow.
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Really like Pages, but every time Apple releases these "off-Broadway" apps I worry they'll decide at some point in the near future to drop them, then I'd be stuck with a bunch of useless files. Wouldn't be the first time.... Steve!
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
—Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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I make a lot of money with iWork. More then I do with Adobe products. Mostly with Keynote, but lately, clients want Pages templates instead of printed letterhead. Weird, I know, but it's been a trend i've seen recently.
That... and i've converted pretty much all my clients offices and operations to Apple. Keynote has been selling tones of Macbooks to the medical industry and people who lecture. Power Point presentations look like complete crap compared to Keynote. As more people switch, iChat will be huge as for the presentation power of Keynote. That will sell more .Mac accounts then anything else. At least thats the snowball effect I hope to see. Just need more business people to actually spend 5 min on a mac. iWork, it's a freak'n awesome application set that puts Office to shame. so yes... iWork is worth dropping Office. so yes... iWork is going to be around for a very long time, Apple won't be dropping what is by far the best office and design production tools out there. (for presentation and document design tools - Illustrator and Photoshop are still needed.) cheers |
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I've only been using Mac for about 12 years but have not lost any files due to format change ... was worried about applework files when iWork came out ... was very vocal and unhappy at first, especially since Pages was not free like appleworks, missed database as well, but I have to say ... Iwork, when you get used to it , at least for me, really rocks... still miss database 'tho ... still on tiger so can't use Bento. I'm going to upgrade to SL soon so then I'll get Bento . Specifically, what format change are you worried about?
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My only gripe with iWork is I wish they would support OASIS formats. The rest is just brilliant and frictionless.
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iWork is worth the effort in my opinion. ![]() All the best.
Where are we on the curve? We'll know once it goes asymptotic!
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First time I used iWork was to edit a Word doc that someone had sent me. It didn't go very well. Pages opened the doc and it looked more or less like it did in Word, but there were a lot of minor formatting differences. I decided to carry on and fix the formatting as needed, especially as in this case the precise formatting was not critical. Once I was done I needed to convert the document back to Word to send it back to the person who had sent it to me. That's where it all went horribly wrong. The resulting Word doc was 6 pages long instead of 4 and the layout of the paragraphs and page breaks was completely wrong. What's more, the formatting was messed up in such a way that it was pretty much unrecoverable, even by editing directly in Word. In the end what I e-mailed back was a PDF which fortunately was acceptable.
Apple tout the total compatibility with MS Office as one of the features of iWork but my experience shows that the Office compatibility is very limited. The content will import and you'll get some of the formatting, but beyond that it's very hit and miss. If you need to edit Office documents that need to stay in their Office format for sending to others then iWork compatibility is totally unacceptable and there's no substiture for Office itself unfortunately. I'd really like to get rid of Office on my Mac but since most of the documents I edit are Office docs, and need to stay that way, I don't have any choice unles Apple dramatically improve their Office compatibility. |
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Where are we on the curve? We'll know once it goes asymptotic!
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Word for Word
The person above who recommends Word for editing Word documents, despite a preferences for Pages is correct, at least in my opinion.
I prefer working in Pages too. But when you edit in Pages a document that originates in Word, things can sometimes get muddled in things like footnotes, or the use of graphics within tables. Some clients as me to prepare documents based on their seriously over-baked Word power-templates. If I pull those templates into Pages, edit, then return to Word for delivery, some things get lost in translation. I don't always have the time to make the fixes. Tom |
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In the old days, we would send a hard copy to management/client/editors and they would mark up the document, delete/add copy and make recommendations. It was up to me to take none to all the suggestions. Obviously, the higher the hierarchy, the more importance the directions were to be taken, but often with further discussions. When computers came on board, a lot tried to circumvent and shortcut the process. Unfortunately, a significant number of changes were made to documents without consideration, in error and with dire consequences. As such, we found that those who initiated the documents were in a better position to take the marked up copy and revise is as necessary. Send it back in circulation. And repeat the process as necessary. A process that I use with iWork.com. The major issue with letting somebody take another's document and make changes unilaterally is that there is no record or assurance that all the necessary changes in the manuscript have been incorporated properly. Many times, I would hear, "why wasn't this changed made? to "I made the change and somebody else must have reversed it." There is nothing that I have found that is better than a hard copy, history of the editing process and a signed off signature. Of course it all depends on your job and how important it is to your future. I use iwork.com and I love the convenience. Others can make notes, they can be discussed immediately, clients can output a copy in Word if they prefer. Certainly, I make certain that everybody understands that formatting may change and that is why they are to use the PDF as a formatting guide. They can edit in Word, but a much simpler method is to use notations. A lot of times, changes are made because the reader misunderstands the content or the writer misunderstands the commentator. In that case, a rewrite to clarify the content may suffice. Often though, the reader may have just simply read it wrong. In addition, sending a document that allows others to see the recommended changes often reverses suggestions that others have made. Even a boss's. Last edited by Abster2core; 09-29-2009 at 08:27 AM.. |
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iWork Beta Cloud is now working after the update w/Snow - yea! But...
iWork Beta Cloud is now working after the update w/Snow - yea! But...does it bother anyone else (that is a mobileme user) that there is this iWork beta.com and mobileme/idisk? I mean how many interfaces do we need from apple to share things? And when are they going to fix idisk syncing of large files? Kinda crazy if you ask me
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and still NO Auto-Save!!!!
Brilliant.. an entire, supposedly superior office suite that lacks the most basic and fundamental feature of all! NO Autosave.. what does it takes to Apple to simply correct this mistake?!
this is absurd. it's a fourth iteration software and they missed this despite the irate customers at apple discussion foruns saying that they've discovered this the very hard way! (me included...) hoped they would correct with this update. apparently the all mighty Apple developers stand high on they horses to look at us the peasants that buy& use their software... and yes, very much pissed off on this. |
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Where are we on the curve? We'll know once it goes asymptotic!
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errr.. no!? firts automatic updates are hourly based. on a hour you could as well just written 20 pages or something, done half of a database and programmed a couple of subroutines...
second, not always are we with the timecapsule disk around. mine is at home, i kind of used my macbook in the portable sense of a laptop... let's say, at work /university? third, i'm a phd candidate, doing phd research and prefer to have my data encrypted. wich means that the timemachine backups are only done when i logout and i'm connected to my backup disck. wich is usually once a week. again, is it too much to ask for a simple routine of save a backup copy every 5 minutes? wanna compare every office application outthere that doesn't provide this feature? |
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I love iWork. I like the integration with iPhoto and iWeb...everything is pretty much click and drag. It is so clever and a pleasure to work on. My daughter is in Medical school and loves the templates. I'm in real estate and the graphing capabilities just make my reports look fantastic. I never use Office anymore.
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The best office productivity suite in the world just got a tad better. Apple, thanks for giving us this absolutely brilliant alternative to Microshit Office Garbage.
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Where are we on the curve? We'll know once it goes asymptotic!
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Years ago when Word first introduced the feature, the rants were prolific. Save is like Trashing. Get in the habit of doing it routinely and purposely or not at all. Bet most here never used "Versions…" in Word 2004. Doesn't appear that it is available in 2008. If you really need it, create an script with Applescript or Automator setting it to automatically save a backup version of the document each time it runs. Certainly, your rant is not necessary or certainly nothing to get pissed off about. |
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yea, iWork rocks unless you have to work with clients with MS office. But personally, I still muddle through with both iWork and Office 2007/8 to get that work done. If only the world had gone the other way...
BTW, has anyone figured out how to get margins in keynote handouts 3/4 up? The prints from that leave no margins even though set in the printer setup. Maddening and well documented bug! Small A/V Studio in Kathmandu Nepal
Last edited by Phoenixstudios; 09-29-2009 at 10:44 AM.. Reason: Maddening and well documented bug! |
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Just my opinion. I'm sure we could find a ton of users on either side of this issue.
Journalism is publishing what someone doesn't want us to know; the rest is propaganda.
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Also, I am willing to wager that the original Word document you received was a formatting disaster. I have rarely seen a Word document that wasn't a complete mess, with all of the fonts and paragraph setting applied manually instead of consistently with paragraph and font styles. Almost nobody seems to know how this is done is Word. It's much easier in Pages. Quote:
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Abster2core that was pretty informative, thanks. I guess that's a lot closer to the 'real world' experience of document editing.
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iWork is a very good suite. That being said, its achilles heal is that it cannot be set to save by default in any formats other than the native ones. If you're dealing with word files, you have to save them manually every time and the save dialog does not automatically go to the folder of the original file. As much as I love iWork, this is what lead me to use OpenOffice instead.
"Don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking" -Steve Jobs. I guess he forgot to add "unless its mine."
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