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Apple's new Magic Mouse disassembled, with pictures
The world's first multi-touch mouse, Apple's new Magic Mouse, has been pulled apart from all of the glue that holds it together, allowing a glimpse at its internal components.
The new Magic Mouse has a solid acrylic surface on a low-profile body. It lacks any physical buttons or the scroll ball of its predecessor, the Mighty Mouse. Instead, the hardware senses the movement of fingertips across its surface, in a multi-touch fashion much like the technology employed in Apple's iPhone, iPod touch, MacBook and MacBook Pro lines. iFixit's look inside found an aluminum base covered by a smooth multi-touch panel. Inside, the hardware is held together by "copious amounts" of glue. It was disassembled with an iPod opening tool. "The glue didn't want to let go, but we overpowered it with the flick of our magic wand," the solutions provider said. "Screws would have been a lot easier to get apart (and much nicer to put back together)." Most of the hardware's weight comes its two AA batteries (47 grams). The plastic weighs in at 37 grams, while the inside is just 10 grams. A single ribbon cable connects the top of the mouse to its internal board, and orange capacitive touch sensors line the translucent top to track individual finger movements. iFixit found that the mouse's entire surface, from the Apple logo up, is covered with capacitive touch sensors. Currently, the Magic Mouse requires a software patch for the multi-touch functionality to work with Mac OS X. But the forthcoming release of Mac OS X 10.6.2 is said to have native support for the new hardware. The solutions provider said that the average mouse board weighs in at 0.4 grams, while the Magic Mouse's "brain" is 9 grams. The mouse uses a Broadcom BCM2042A4KFBGH Bluetooth chip to wirelessly communicate with a desktop machine. Broadcom advertises the chip as a "low cost component" that allows manufacturers to create new hardware at the same price points as older mice with less features. "Apparently Apple missed that memo," iFixit said of the $69 mouse. Disassembly of the new hardware is not recommended, as the sheer amount of glue holding it together would be difficult to repair once pulled apart. "Another mouse killed in the name of science," they said. "We didn't break anything, but gluing it back together will be challenging." For the full disassembly process, view the entire article at iFixit. |
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Please fix the first line
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Sorry, but it's kinda distracting. |
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Very Large Sensing Area
I would have to believe that, based on the huge sensing area on the top of the magic mouse AND the rails, Apple will continue to release software upgrades to add more functionality.
Right now, you are only using the forward half of the mouse. With those rails, you might be able to lock the mouse in place and provide a more "multi-touch" interface, using the entire surface of the mouse. Dare I think.... |
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Ahhh, a mouse dissection.
(Formerly LTD on Neowin.net) (currently *LTD* on Macrumors.com)
Mac OS users have made a conscious technology choice and are therefore typically better informed than their peers. -- Paul Thurrott, winsupersite.com, December 06, 2004 |
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How soon until the furries get interested?
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Also, why Magic Mouse? Please, Apple (Steve), go back to using Pro Mouse, or even just Mouse. Using the name Magic Mouse makes it too toyish. Simply calling it the (Pro) Mouse gives it a little bit of a minimalist cool factor. |
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I won't be getting one until I see a wired version, which I doubt will happen ever. I already have to replace batteries as it is with a Wiimote, so now another battery infested device? No thanks.
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It's too soon for an ergonomic article. Use the thing for a few weeks then tell us about it. |
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Too Heavy For Me
The one thing that kills this mouse for me is its weight, all attributable to the use of 2 AA cells. I've tried wireless mice before but after using one for 8 hours the weight starts to become an issue.
(The other issue I have with this mouse is where am I going to rest my fingers? I've noticed that my fingers wander all over the top of a mouse while I'm using it, and this one is going to think I'm scrolling. Haven't tried one yet but that's the impression I get. We'll see.) Wish they had put in a Li-Ion rechargeable in there along with a mouse pad with a built-in inductive charger. I'd try that. |
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Wait, so there's no physical click to it at all? That's rather disappointing (though I already have it ordered :P).
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Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
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Of all the things Apple has that really NEEDS a non-replaceable, rechargeable battery with a charger is it's mouse! I'm sick and tired of changing batteries as well. And how exactly is this environmentally friendly? I'm supposed now buy an additonal battery recharger out of my pocket and draw more electricity with it? No thanks.
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Must be nice to have $70+ to burn.
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Magic?
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Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
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![]() My gut feeling says I'll like this mouse, as I love swiping, momentum-scrolling and wanted the ball gone for years.
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True that- to each his own. I hope it works out for you.
I have to check it and all the rest of the new stuff out at lunchtime today. I went Tuesday but nothing was out yet.
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Although I too often criticise Apple's ergonomics, especially about mice, it's fair to say that those articles are being a bit disingenuous. The fact is that there is no "ergonomic standard" or even rules when it comes to mice. There is no right way, and no wrong way, and different people use the mouse different ways. As much as I totally disagree with him, Steve Jobs' answer to why he thought the iMac "hockey puck" mouse (that most hated), was good was that you were supposed to just hold it with your fingertips and not rest your hand on it. Personally, I can't hold a mouse that way, but if you are one of the people that does, he is actually quite correct and the mouse works well in that context. I'm more inclined to lay my hand across the top of the mouse and just move the fingers, (as are a lot of people). I'd like to see Apple do what no one else has ever done and make mice in varying sizes to accommodate the fact that humans have widely differing hand sizes. My hands for instance are literally twice as big as a friend of mine, but we both use the same mouse. However, saying that one mouse design or another is "not ergonomic" or words to that effect, as these articles do, is specious. The mouse may not work for the reviewer, but it's an individual thing. To couch it in absolutes like these articles do is basically to be just making crap up.
It was a widely held belief by the smartest people in late 1400's Europe that human knowledge and indeed civilisation itself, had advanced to such a nearly complete and perfect state, that the "end times" were certainly almost upon them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergonomics Propping up your fingertips on a mouse like a ballerina and using your digits to dance is ridiculous and not the norm.
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He told you he's a fool- now leave him be!
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No physical clicking would, I think, make it much more ergonomic. Reviewers declaring it not ergonomic based on size alone, clearly don't understand ergonomics, which can't be judged so summarily. Besides, pushing buttons is so old fashioned.
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As mouse- period, is so old fashion. I want one of those hand contraptions like in "Children of Men". Or just a portable bluetooth track pad but not that Bamboo Wacom disaster.
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This is one of those items that reading a review won't help. Mice are very subjective creatures and everything from how they feel when you move them to how hard you have to press to register a click to the ratio of height to width affect how you perceive their effectiveness.
I loved the little nipple on the last mighty mouse for it's fine grit and satisfying rubbery texture. But I grew to hate the rest of the mouse. It brought back memories of a very light Kensington mouse I tried that had a pad for a scroll wheel. The lack of feedback while clicking and scrolling is a deal breaker for me. I just had to try them out for a while to discover this. I broke with Apple and tried a Logitech VX Revolution. I was hesitant as I've had Apple's wireless mice before and went through batteries too quickly. Logitech's mice, however, don't drink as much juice. The thing I get the most satisfaction with is their rubber-stripped, metal flywheel. It's a scroll button without peer. You can set it to give you gritty feedback or not, where it will spin for several seconds freely. I also found that I like having 7 buttons. I use 6 of them every day, hundreds of times, mostly for expose functionality. I ordered the 27" and will try the mouse out, but it has a high hurdle to clear to replace my VX. |
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"Using your digits to dance," may not currently be the norm, but it may turn out to be much more ergonomic than traditional buttons. Setting a trackpad to respond to touch and not using it as a button at all is, in my experience, much more ergonomic. The only problem there is that on MacBooks it's in a somewhat awkward position. Having a standalone touch device off to the side, in a more natural position, seems the best arrangement. And, you don't, "[Prop] up your fingertips," on it, "like a ballerina." You hold it just like the hand in Apple's pictures does and just make small movements of your fingertips. In 3 months, everyone will be rushing copies of this design to the market. Some of them may work better than Apple's, which is fine, but I think the non-ergonomic charges will fade away like breath on a cold morning. |
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In any event, I am waiting for mine: will let you know how it works out. |
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The only way to operate any mouse is to prop your fingertips on top and make them dance like a ballerina. How do you use your current scroll ball? Jedi mind tricks?
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I use the part of my finger where one would get a fingerprint taken for identification- not the actual tips adjacent to my nails as Gazoobee suggests!!! You're not playing a piano for crying out loud! That's why people use gelled wrists rests- for exactly as its held.
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TS certainly does mind tricks, but they aren't Jedi mind tricks. They might be Creutzfeldt-Jakob mind tricks.
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The reason many people use gelled wrist rests is that the mice they are using are too big -- i.e., too tall -- so they need the wrist rest to get their hand up to the right level. The low profile of the new MM seems perfect for eliminating the need for these. I'd say the new mouse is a knockout, except that it looks more transgenic.
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