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Old 02-18-2005, 02:05 PM   #1
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Apple to rename Rendezvous technology "Bonjour"

Exclusive -- Apple Computer in the coming months will change the name of its Rendezvous networking technology to "Bonjour," according to company documents shown to AppleInsider.

Last year, Tibco Software of Palo Alto, Calif., entered into a trademark dispute with Apple over its use of the Rendezvous name, alleging that the Apple technology, used in products such as Mac OS X and the iTunes Music Store, infringed on its exclusive rights to the Rendezvous name.

In July 2004, AppleInsider reported that the two companies agreed to end the dispute through a mutual out of court settlement. Sources close to the negotiations said that, as part of the deal, Apple agreed to phase out its use of the "Rendezvous" name in time.

Apple's Rendezvous technology, also known in the industry as Zero Configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. It uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically find each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers.

Following its settlement with Tibco, insiders said Apple proposed that the technology be renamed "OpenTalk" in future versions of the Mac OS X, and actually filed for the applicable trademark. However, "OpenTalk" was a little too "techie" sources said.

"Naturally, when Rendezvous-enabled computers and devices come within range of each other, they say 'hello,' and hence the name 'Bonjour' was later deemed more appropriate," one insider said.

Checks from inside Apple also confirm the name change to Bonjour. According to extremely well-placed sources, the latest internal builds of Apple's next-generation Tiger operating system have shed all mention of the Rendezvous name in favor of Bonjour. Builds of Tiger are fast approaching the 8A39x milestone, and subsequently an official release within the next few months, sources said.

As reported by AppleInsider earlier this month, Apple filed for a trademark on the name "Bonjour" on January 28th. In the filing, the company describes Bonjour as "computer software for the automatic configuration of computer networks, computer programs, computer peripherals and other electronic devices."
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:21 PM   #2
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ya know, I thought Safari was gonna be the last of the really dorky names Apple could come up with.

Evidently I was wrong.

"Jean-Francois iiz yor Moc zaying Bonjour to my Moc?"

"Mais non Jean-Luc, ov curse non. Eet iiz onlee lookeeng fer zee printeer"

"Ah! Mais sacre bleu! Your Moc iiz triing to geet eento my Mocintosh! I zee it! Mah wall of fire sez so! Hon hon hon!"

"Beut non Jean-Luc, I zwear! My Moc just sez Bonjour to my printeer!"

"I belieeve you not you wannaa-bee Eeeeenglish knnnnniggit! iuu zmell of eldeerberries"

"Jean-Luc, I zwear, Monti Pie-ton iiz not funni when iuu arre Fronch"

"... iez, but you diid tri and zay zee Bonjour to my Moc, non?"

"Jean-Luc, TA GEULLE"

"Hon hon hon..."


I'm having deja-vu and amnesia at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.


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Old 02-18-2005, 02:31 PM   #3
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I guess google already had 'hello' so they had to try the next most popular language.
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:40 PM   #4
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[i]"Ah! Mais sacre bleu! Your Moc iiz triing to geet eento my Mocintosh! I zee it! Mah wall of fire sez so! Hon hon hon!"

"Beut non Jean-Luc, I zwear! My Moc just sez Bonjour to my printeer!"

"I belieeve you not you wannaa-bee Eeeeenglish knnnnniggit! iuu zmell of eldeerberries"

"Jean-Luc, I zwear, Monti Pie-ton iiz not funni when iuu arre Fronch"

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zoot alors, that was good. I need some wine and cheese now...
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:45 PM   #5
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Replacing one cr@ppy name with another. Personally, iThink this one is even worse. Do those guys @ Apple think that French names are fancy or fashionable or what?
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:46 PM   #6
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:55 PM   #7
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What an asstastic name.

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Old 02-18-2005, 03:17 PM   #8
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What an asstastic name.

Try again Apple
agreed. opentalk seems fine to me though. but why make up an extra name and not call it zeroconf? both sound less 'techie' than stuff like hyperthreading.


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Old 02-18-2005, 03:30 PM   #9
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:35 PM   #10
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Bonjour doesn't bother me -- it follows Rendezvous. I knew Rendezvous wouldn't work as I'd been working with Tibco RV at my job at the time Apple announced it.

Discovery could have worked if Apple were able to use it, because that is exactly what the technology is about.
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:39 PM   #11
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"Jean-Francois iiz yor Moc zaying Bonjour to my Moc?"

"Mais non Jean-Luc, ov curse non. Eet iiz onlee lookeeng fer zee printeer"

"Ah! Mais sacre bleu! Your Moc iiz triing to geet eento my Mocintosh! I zee it! Mah wall of fire sez so! Hon hon hon!"
Le ha ha! *pirouettes*

Bonjour????? Even Konnekt is a better name.
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:42 PM   #12
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God, I don't anyone would be dumb enough to rename Rendevous "Bonjour".

I mean why not just call it G'day or Aloha?
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:44 PM   #13
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God, I don't think anyone at Apple would be dumb enough to rename Rendevous "Bonjour".

I mean why not just call it G'day or Aloha?
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:53 PM   #14
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découverte is the French word for discovery, why not call it that? ;-)
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:05 PM   #15
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découverte is the French word for discovery, why not call it that? ;-)
Oooh. That's sexy. But probably taken already.
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:17 PM   #16
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name it after the most famous explorer of all...

indiana



"indiana? we named the ZERO-CONFIGURATION NETWORKING PROTOCOL indiana..."


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Old 02-18-2005, 04:42 PM   #17
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name it after the most famous explorer of all...

indiana



"indiana? we named the ZERO-CONFIGURATION NETWORKING PROTOCOL indiana..."
Oh how fitting, not just the person, but the state - most people in this state could not figure out basic computer networking if it bit them, oh screw it, you know where this is going, particularly if you have visited Indiana.

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Old 02-18-2005, 04:48 PM   #18
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Pretty much confirmed, Apple have filled a US trademark on January 25th 2005.

Serial No. 78556312

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Old 02-18-2005, 05:08 PM   #19
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What's wrong with "ZeroConf"?

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I far prefer Yo™ or Wazzup™.


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Old 02-18-2005, 05:32 PM   #21
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I mean why not just call it G'day or Aloha?
Because Aloha's already been taken for a networking technology... really!

It was an early research project into dealing with message collision over a shared medium... lessons learned were applied to the later development of Ethernet. Just about anybody with a CompSci degree has to sit through a lecture about Slotted Aloha. It's a rite of passage...


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Old 02-18-2005, 05:48 PM   #22
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I far prefer Yo™ or Wazzup™.
I'm definitely going with Yo.

Or maybe 'Sup.

Bonjour is so... Bomb Voyage...


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Old 02-18-2005, 05:59 PM   #23
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I can see all the Francophobic neo-cons getting outta shape.... can't wait for Rush to call for a boycott on 'Bonjour" and call for "Freedom Link!"

Personally "Menage!" sounds better to me.


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Old 02-18-2005, 06:14 PM   #24
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How embarrassing will it be to have to use the word "Bonjour" in sentences when trying to help someone with their computer?! Sheesh. I can't even say it without laughing, much less a straight face.

Wasn't there an Arby's commercial where the oven mit was trying to say some french word with a "j" and kept saying 'juice' or something else instead? Maybe Apple could hire the mit out to advertise this change too?
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:24 PM   #25
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I'm definitely going with Yo.

Or maybe 'Sup.
I love 'sup.

Gotta do it with a single reverse nod for that proper high-school hallway effect.

Imagine a French software company calling it's networking technology "Howdy"!


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Old 02-18-2005, 07:51 PM   #26
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What is everyone's problem with the name Rendezvous (except obviously Tibco), I liked it.

Bonjour is a crap name though, terrible. OpenTalk wasn't too bad a name. Maybe for a less "techy" name got for MeetAndGreat.
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:55 PM   #27
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Uggggggh ... Bonjour has to be the single worst name Apple has ever come up with ... and all it does is reinforce Apple among IT professionals as being the home of fruity white-wine sipping snobs ... I think the Bonjour name will help continue Apple's laughing stock reputation as a "serious tech" company.

Please Apple, say siyonara to Bonjour. Merci!
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Old 02-18-2005, 08:17 PM   #29
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Uggggggh ... Bonjour has to be the single worst name Apple has ever come up with ... and all it does is reinforce Apple among IT professionals as being the home of fruity white-wine sipping snobs ... I think the Bonjour name will help continue Apple's laughing stock reputation as a "serious tech" company.

Please Apple, say siyonara to Bonjour. Merci!

How about oi!



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Old 02-18-2005, 10:00 PM   #30
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I thought Rendezvous was perfect, actually. OpenTalk works. It's a modern extension of AppleTalk. Logical, too.

Bonjour really sucks. I can just imagine what Francophobic fools will say about it.

Howdy would be funny, but I'm sure not take seriously by the rigid IT people of the world.

What about...
Howzitgoin
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There are many possibilities better than Bonjour
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:52 PM   #31
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Jeez, just be glad you're not a French Mac user. It would play out like a "Who's on First?" sketch.
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:27 PM   #32
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Bonjour is an improvments on Rendevous IMHO... it stills tells you what the technology does but in a simpler way. But the guy who said 'Yo' is a genius

Isn't one of the main OS X designers French?
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OpenTalk too techie? Was AppleTalk too techie? I can still imagine the jokes that will be made if Apple is dumb enough to choose "Bonjour".

How about something jive? Holmes, player or G maybe? Sister? Brother perhaps? Or "Lets shizzle my nizzle."

Just some of the ways you can say hello.
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:09 AM   #34
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How about GetFreaky? Kind of opposite of what you want to happen...

Other ideas:
GetWitIt
UltraTalk (hmm sounds like Ultraman)
HyperTalk (confused with HyperThreading)
TalkEasy (sounds like for mobile phones)
iNetwork (sounds like a product not a technology)
SmoothTalk
Suave

Hey...!! Apple's new networking technology, Suave (soo-ah-vay) ....... helps your different devices and computers join and interact with each other like a coke/ecstasy-fuelled swinger's party...

Suahvay
Suavey... hmm sounds Jewish...

....the search continues
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Handshake.

That would've been the best name for an App ever.


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Old 02-19-2005, 11:41 AM   #36
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what about "Hola Cabron"

or "Que Tal"

or "Qiero TacoBell"

or... "Majana"


or maybe I'll just shut up.

Although I do like " 'ssup "


I'm having deja-vu and amnesia at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.
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also... I just CANNOT see industry put this technology name on their products:

HP Printers that say "Easy set up with BONJOUR!"

People are gonna think that the printer comes with a frikken Croissant or something

That... thats just not gonna work


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Oh how fitting, not just the person, but the state - most people in this state could not figure out basic computer networking if it bit them, oh screw it, you know where this is going, particularly if you have visited Indiana.

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Hey, just because a few of us have the uncle/dad dosen't make the place all bad. Besides if you find your girlfriend at the family reunion just means you already know her family.

And to the point that you so clearly illustrated, if folks from Indiana can use this technology anyone can, so that is just another way of saying ease of use.


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Hey, just because a few of us have the uncle/dad dosen't make the place all bad. Besides if you find your girlfriend at the family reunion just means you already know her family.
OMG ROFLMAO
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:08 PM   #40
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My name for the technology:

"How Did It Do That?"

My first experience with Rendezvous was shortly after I installed Jaguar right after it came out. I was typing on my iBook which was connected wirelessly via AirPort to my iMac which had a printer. Previously, if I needed to print something I typed on the iBook, I'd send the file to the iMac, open it there and print it. Late one night, I was kind of bleary-eyed and not thinking straight when I asked the iBook to print and offered up the printer connceted to the iMac (courtesy of Rendezvous which figured out what I had never bothered to) and I accepted. All of a sudden I hear the printer going a few rooms away in the den and said, "How did it do that!?"

Actually, Apple could call it, "We'll Take Care of It, You Morons" and we'd still use it, 'cause it works so damn well!
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