First copies of Mac OS X Tiger ship

***AppleInsider*** · 04-22-2005, 09:37 AM

Apple on Friday began shipping Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, the next version of its Mac OS X operating system. Although Tiger will not officially launched until April 29th, one MacNN.com reader provided the publication with a shipment confirmation from the Apple Store. The document showed a delivery date of April 25 via Fedex Ground--well ahead of the official release date next week. MacNN says orders with expedited shipping may have earlier delivery dates.

Update: At least two AppleInsider readers claim to have already received their copies of Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" this Thursday.

[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

ibook911 · 04-22-2005, 09:51 AM

I think there are only going to be rare cases of this. I just don't see Apple getting to everyone several days early. Furthermore, I did not pay for shipping, but the day after ordering they changed my order to 2-day air, so I'm sure they are going to hold it until just a couple days before next Friday.

rok · 04-22-2005, 09:58 AM

kinda makes sense to me. heck, if i saw someone using tiger a few days early, that would make me want to be at the release party even more, if i hadn't already picked up a copy. but, i already ordered, just opted for free shipping, and the only good release party around here will be compusa WAY out of the way, so that ain't happenin...

AgNuke1707 · 04-22-2005, 10:00 AM

Heck, I've waited this long ... another week seems bearable. The good news it that we'll finally have it in our hands ... and yes, talking about it right here in less than a week...

macnut222 · 04-22-2005, 10:02 AM

I didn't have an option to expedite my order. Do they take that option out for edu buyers?

kenaustus · 04-22-2005, 10:15 AM

It might just be that there are a lot of Tiger boxes to ship out and they are clearing out some space in the shipping area - and filling those FedEx trucks.
Sort of like moving cattle - move em out! Yeeeehaaaaaa! Pity MS can't do that.

fatchuck · 04-22-2005, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenaustus
Sort of like moving cattle - move em out! Yeeeehaaaaaa! Pity MS can't do that.

Oh, they can. Just wait until late 2007 when they ship Longhorn, you'll see.

Chuck

AquaMac · 04-22-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatchuck
Oh, they can. Just wait until late 2007 when they ship Longhorn, you'll see.

By then Lion 10.5.3 will be out. 8)

Oh, the MS Shame.....

digitalboi · 04-22-2005, 01:09 PM

Does anyone have any proof of this? I called the Apple Store and they are denying it, but they offered to help me out if I could provide the web order number for the order in question...

(Should i be suspicious or excited?)

hirsch22 · 04-22-2005, 01:52 PM

Well, it's not true in my case. My order is slated to go out no later than the 28th by 2nd day shipping.

AppleInsider could verify the accuracy of the 2 people that claim to have copies if those people would provide their order numbers and zip codes to the administrator. That way the order status could be verified.

badtz · 04-22-2005, 01:54 PM

proof:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=13191208

hirsch22 · 04-22-2005, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by macnut222
I didn't have an option to expedite my order. Do they take that option out for edu buyers?

I'm also an edu buyer. The 2-day shipping is part of their pre-order promotion. Pre-order and the guaranteed delivery by the 29th. So, you're getting expedited shipping.

ulmo · 04-22-2005, 02:07 PM

Mine still says expected shipping day 29th April, it's probably because I live in this crap country (UK). To make matters worse, it's also a bank holiday weekend so probably won't get tiger till the Tuesday afterwards. Not that I don't mind bank holidays, we should have more of them :-)

hirsch22 · 04-22-2005, 02:18 PM

That's proof enough for me. Wish it was me though! Lucky buggers getting it a full week ahead and with the weekend to play around.

Quote:

Originally posted by badtz
proof:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=13191208

dfiler · 04-22-2005, 04:18 PM

This always happens. I got my previous couple releases prior to the release date by pre-ordering them from apple.

The reasoning is probably as follows: There are hordes of apple users that will do whatever is necessary to get there hands on tiger at the earliest possible moment. If preorders didn't arrive before release date, these people would visit a retail outlet and buy a copy on release day. Then, they would all send their pre-orders back to apple en mass. This would be quite expensive.

To reiterate, I've typically received OS X releases prior to the official release date by pre-ordering from apple.

badtz · 04-22-2005, 04:45 PM

supposedly, someone on macnn claims it's build 8A428.

CrowFreak · 04-22-2005, 05:18 PM

Did anyone order from MacMall expecting delivery on April 29th? There website stated delivery by next Friday, but I just talked to them and they said it won't be shipping now until the 29th. Starting to regret ordering from them now.

salmonstk · 04-22-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrowFreak
Did anyone order from MacMall expecting delivery on April 29th? There website stated delivery by next Friday, but I just talked to them and they said it won't be shipping now until the 29th. Starting to regret ordering from them now.

I always order directly from Apple. I figure helps there bottom line and then they have a record of exactly what I have bought ever. I have heard they give favors to frequent buyers.

CrowFreak · 04-22-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salmonstk
I always order directly from Apple. I figure helps there bottom line and then they have a record of exactly what I have bought ever. I have heard they give favors to frequent buyers.

Live and learn I guess.

ibook911 · 04-22-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrowFreak
Did anyone order from MacMall expecting delivery on April 29th? There website stated delivery by next Friday, but I just talked to them and they said it won't be shipping now until the 29th. Starting to regret ordering from them now.

You can cancel MacMall orders very easy. Just send them an email. I ordered a copy today, seeing if they would ship it, when it became clear they wouldn't, I cancelled.

CrowFreak · 04-22-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ibook911
You can cancel MacMall orders very easy. Just send them an email. I ordered a copy today, seeing if they would ship it, when it became clear they wouldn't, I cancelled.

I've been contemplating what to do today. If nothing happens early next week, then I will figure something else out.

Thanks for the info about how easy it is to cancel.

rok · 04-22-2005, 09:01 PM

i'm kinda glad mine is NOT on its way. i got plans this weekend, with jazz fest around the corner, and if tiger arrived today or tomorrow, i'd probably be sequestered in front of my computer all weekend... yes, i truly am THAT pathetic when it comes to new software.

brentonbrenton · 04-22-2005, 09:15 PM

I might have thought this was a mixed reason between making room in the warehouse as well as trying to combat the quick release of the software to the filesharing sites.

g3pro · 04-22-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salmonstk
I always order directly from Apple. I figure helps there bottom line and then they have a record of exactly what I have bought ever. I have heard they give favors to frequent buyers.

Giving you a treat when you buy stuff above market price is not really worth it IMO.

macbeemer · 04-22-2005, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrowFreak
Did anyone order from MacMall expecting delivery on April 29th? There website stated delivery by next Friday, but I just talked to them and they said it won't be shipping now until the 29th. Starting to regret ordering from them now.

go here: http://www.fuckmacmall.com

CrowFreak · 04-22-2005, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by macbeemer
go here: http://www.fuckmacmall.com

Sad to see that the customer service is so atrocious. I decided that I am going to cancel my order with them and just get it from somewhere else. The name of the site says exactly what I was thinking.

DonkeyRinse · 04-23-2005, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrowFreak
Sad to see that the customer service is so atrocious. I decided that I am going to cancel my order with them and just get it from somewhere else. The name of the site says exactly what I was thinking.

I don't do business with MacMall because I don't like their business practices.

That said, the guy with the FuckMacMall site is an idiot. Only a moron would return merchandise without an RMA and without a trackable carrier.

hirsch22 · 04-23-2005, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by g3pro
Giving you a treat when you buy stuff above market price is not really worth it IMO.

How are they charging above market price? Free shipping with promised delivery by the day of release seems pretty fair. Of course, maybe they really won me over with the educational price of $69.

What I think is ridiculous is that iLife '05 is $59. I mean come on, $70 for a major OS update and $60 for a minor app suite update? I guess I'll wait and see what '06 offers.

Anybody else think iLife updates should be free or at least a minimal upgrade fee?

jonnyb · 04-23-2005, 07:55 AM

I'm in the UK too and they seem to have changed their language about delivery. When the announcment was made they said this about the seminar:

"The seminar launches along with Tiger on April 29. If you pre-order today, we'll deliver Tiger to you on that same day—no waiting. Then, after you install it, you can watch the seminar and begin exploring the new features on your Mac right along with the hosts. They'll deliver expert information, tips and tricks you won't find anywhere else."

Now all they're saying is shipping by the 29th.

Messiah · 04-23-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonnyb
I'm in the UK too and they seem to have changed their language about delivery. When the announcment was made they said this about the seminar:

"The seminar launches along with Tiger on April 29. If you pre-order today, we'll deliver Tiger to you on that same day—no waiting. Then, after you install it, you can watch the seminar and begin exploring the new features on your Mac right along with the hosts. They'll deliver expert information, tips and tricks you won't find anywhere else."

Now all they're saying is shipping by the 29th.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. The only reason I ordered my copy from the AppleStore was because I wanted to make sure that I got hold of it on the 29th AT THE LATEST.

There are several Apple dealers near where I work, and I'd be able to pick up a copy on the 29th anyway. My order originally stated "Before the 29th", now it says "On or before the 29th". From previous experience, it can take weeks for orders to arrive from Eire...

Cake · 04-23-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badtz
proof:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=13191208

That disc looks like a developers version - "includes Xcode 2".

While I don't doubt that some 10.4 shipments have gone out, that looks just like the disc I got when I joined the ADC.

haunebu · 04-23-2005, 04:03 PM

Since when is there a "developer's version?" A boxed version is the consumer release version, and all releases of Mac OS X include Xcode.

snipe · 04-23-2005, 05:02 PM

I ordered from the Apple store by phone 2 weeks ago and just checked
the delivery status that says ''delivery on or before 4/28'' T H U R S D A Y
in Canada

danielctull · 04-24-2005, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Messiah
Yeah, I noticed that as well. The only reason I ordered my copy from the AppleStore was because I wanted to make sure that I got hold of it on the 29th AT THE LATEST.

There are several Apple dealers near where I work, and I'd be able to pick up a copy on the 29th anyway. My order originally stated "Before the 29th", now it says "On or before the 29th". From previous experience, it can take weeks for orders to arrive from Eire...

Do you have to order copies from the real life Apple Store if you want a copy? I'm still not sure what I'm going to do yet. Wait and see for my online order, or go to either of the UK shops for the launch.

melevittfl · 04-24-2005, 02:06 PM

Well, the e-mail I received in the UK said if I pre-ordered, I'd *receive* it on the 29th.

So, if they don't actually get it to me by the 29th, I'll go to the Apple Store, buy it there, and return the one that eventually shows up.

the cool gut · 04-24-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snipe
I ordered from the Apple store by phone 2 weeks ago and just checked
the delivery status that says ''delivery on or before 4/28'' T H U R S D A Y
in Canada

Where does it say that? All I get is:

Est. Ship
On or before
04/28/2005

hirsch22 · 04-24-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cool gut
Where does it say that? All I get is:

Est. Ship
On or before
04/28/2005

Combine that with the method of shipping which should say 2nd-day, and you should have it on the 29th.

Messiah · 04-24-2005, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by danielctull
Do you have to order copies from the real life Apple Store if you want a copy? I'm still not sure what I'm going to do yet. Wait and see for my online order, or go to either of the UK shops for the launch.

In the past the Apple dealers have also had copies - in fact, you can usually put your name down in advance to make sure that you get a copy on the launch day. That's exactly what I did with the Public Beta, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3. Tiger is the first release of OS X that I've bought directly from the AppleStore.

And if I don't get it by the 29th, the last...

Messiah · 04-24-2005, 05:30 PM

What do you reckon "Fast Ship (EMEA)" means?

snipe · 04-25-2005, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the cool gut
Where does it say that? All I get is:

Est. Ship
On or before
04/28/2005

yup me too. Misread the order status page

04-22-2005, 09:37 AM	#1
*AppleInsider* Kasper's Automated Slave Join Date: Nov 1997 Posts: 6,151	First copies of Mac OS X Tiger ship (Updated) Apple on Friday began shipping Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, the next version of its Mac OS X operating system. Although Tiger will not officially launched until April 29th, one MacNN.com reader provided the publication with a shipment confirmation from the Apple Store. The document showed a delivery date of April 25 via Fedex Ground--well ahead of the official release date next week. MacNN says orders with expedited shipping may have earlier delivery dates. Update: At least two AppleInsider readers claim to have already received their copies of Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" this Thursday. [ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

04-22-2005, 09:51 AM	#2
ibook911 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 577	I think there are only going to be rare cases of this. I just don't see Apple getting to everyone several days early. Furthermore, I did not pay for shipping, but the day after ordering they changed my order to 2-day air, so I'm sure they are going to hold it until just a couple days before next Friday. Powerbook G4 12" - 1.5 GHZ - 1.25 GB RAM 80g Hard Drive, Superdrive iMac Core Duo 17-inch 1.83 GHZ, 1.5GB RAM Apple 20-inch Cinema Display (Aluminium) 60g ipod video, Airport Express, .mac sub, iPod shuffle, EyeTV 200 Previous mac was... ibook 12" 1GHZ - 768MB RAM 60g Hard Drive, Bluetooth module, and Airport

04-22-2005, 09:58 AM	#3
rok the Casbah Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: have lived in: Louisiana, Ohio, Florida, Minnesota, and Ontario, Canada (now twice) Posts: 3,455	kinda makes sense to me. heck, if i saw someone using tiger a few days early, that would make me want to be at the release party even more, if i hadn't already picked up a copy. but, i already ordered, just opted for free shipping, and the only good release party around here will be compusa WAY out of the way, so that ain't happenin... When you're lovers in a dangerous time, You're made to feel as if your love's a crime. Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight. - Bruce Cockburn, 'Lovers in a Dangerous Time' (also covered very well by Barenaked Ladies)

04-22-2005, 10:00 AM	#4
AgNuke1707 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nowhere, TX Posts: 465	Heck, I've waited this long ... another week seems bearable. The good news it that we'll finally have it in our hands ... and yes, talking about it right here in less than a week... "Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." ~ GK Chesterton~ MacBook Pro 15" 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, 120 GB HDD iPod 5th Generation, 30 GB iPhone 3G, 8 GB

04-22-2005, 10:02 AM	#5
macnut222 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 92	I didn't have an option to expedite my order. Do they take that option out for edu buyers? Never Doubt Apple. --------------------------- "Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice." -Steve Jobs

04-22-2005, 10:15 AM	#6
kenaustus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 747	It might just be that there are a lot of Tiger boxes to ship out and they are clearing out some space in the shipping area - and filling those FedEx trucks. Sort of like moving cattle - move em out! Yeeeehaaaaaa! Pity MS can't do that. Ken

04-22-2005, 01:09 PM	#9
digitalboi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 14	Does anyone have any proof of this? I called the Apple Store and they are denying it, but they offered to help me out if I could provide the web order number for the order in question... (Should i be suspicious or excited?)

04-22-2005, 01:52 PM	#10
hirsch22 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 18	Well, it's not true in my case. My order is slated to go out no later than the 28th by 2nd day shipping. AppleInsider could verify the accuracy of the 2 people that claim to have copies if those people would provide their order numbers and zip codes to the administrator. That way the order status could be verified.

04-22-2005, 01:54 PM	#11
badtz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 935	proof: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=13191208

04-22-2005, 02:07 PM	#13
ulmo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom Posts: 21	Mine still says expected shipping day 29th April, it's probably because I live in this crap country (UK). To make matters worse, it's also a bank holiday weekend so probably won't get tiger till the Tuesday afterwards. Not that I don't mind bank holidays, we should have more of them :-) Powerbook G4 1Ghz 784MB 12" Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz 1GB 17" Imac G3 Athlon AMD64 3400+, 1GB RAM

04-22-2005, 04:18 PM	#15
dfiler Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,666	This always happens. I got my previous couple releases prior to the release date by pre-ordering them from apple. The reasoning is probably as follows: There are hordes of apple users that will do whatever is necessary to get there hands on tiger at the earliest possible moment. If preorders didn't arrive before release date, these people would visit a retail outlet and buy a copy on release day. Then, they would all send their pre-orders back to apple en mass. This would be quite expensive. To reiterate, I've typically received OS X releases prior to the official release date by pre-ordering from apple.

04-22-2005, 04:45 PM	#16
badtz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 935	supposedly, someone on macnn claims it's build 8A428.

04-22-2005, 05:18 PM	#17
CrowFreak Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15	Did anyone order from MacMall expecting delivery on April 29th? There website stated delivery by next Friday, but I just talked to them and they said it won't be shipping now until the 29th. Starting to regret ordering from them now.

04-22-2005, 09:01 PM	#22
rok the Casbah Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: have lived in: Louisiana, Ohio, Florida, Minnesota, and Ontario, Canada (now twice) Posts: 3,455	i'm kinda glad mine is NOT on its way. i got plans this weekend, with jazz fest around the corner, and if tiger arrived today or tomorrow, i'd probably be sequestered in front of my computer all weekend... yes, i truly am THAT pathetic when it comes to new software. When you're lovers in a dangerous time, You're made to feel as if your love's a crime. Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight. - Bruce Cockburn, 'Lovers in a Dangerous Time' (also covered very well by Barenaked Ladies)

04-22-2005, 09:15 PM	#23
brentonbrenton Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 15	I might have thought this was a mixed reason between making room in the warehouse as well as trying to combat the quick release of the software to the filesharing sites.

04-23-2005, 07:55 AM	#29
jonnyb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 57	I'm in the UK too and they seem to have changed their language about delivery. When the announcment was made they said this about the seminar: "The seminar launches along with Tiger on April 29. If you pre-order today, we'll deliver Tiger to you on that same day—no waiting. Then, after you install it, you can watch the seminar and begin exploring the new features on your Mac right along with the hosts. They'll deliver expert information, tips and tricks you won't find anywhere else." Now all they're saying is shipping by the 29th.

04-23-2005, 04:03 PM	#32
haunebu Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 39	Since when is there a "developer's version?" A boxed version is the consumer release version, and all releases of Mac OS X include Xcode.

04-23-2005, 05:02 PM	#33
snipe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 95	I ordered from the Apple store by phone 2 weeks ago and just checked the delivery status that says ''delivery on or before 4/28'' T H U R S D A Y in Canada MS: loving the darkness; cursing the candles

04-24-2005, 02:06 PM	#35
melevittfl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 34	Well, the e-mail I received in the UK said if I pre-ordered, I'd receive it on the 29th. So, if they don't actually get it to me by the 29th, I'll go to the Apple Store, buy it there, and return the one that eventually shows up.

04-24-2005, 05:30 PM	#39
Messiah Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Treasure Island Posts: 1,605	What do you reckon "Fast Ship (EMEA)" means? When Steve Jobs wants to hear your opinion - he'll give it to you...

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