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03-27-2007, 10:00 AM
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Adobe unleashes Creative Suite 3 product line
Adobe Systems Inc. on Tuesday formally introduced its Creative Suite 3.0 product line, a collection of tightly integrated design and development tools for Mac and Window-based creative workflow professionals.
As previously revealed by AppleInsider, there are six all-new configurations of Adobe Creative Suite 3. These include, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Design Standard editions; Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium and Web Standard editions; and Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium. Rounding out the product line is Adobe Creative Suite Master Collection which combines 12 of Adobe’s new design and development applications in a single box. The majority of Adobe Creative Suite 3 editions will be available as Universal applications for both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs and support Microsoft Windows XP and Windows Vista. The San Jose-based Adobe promises increased levels of performance and speed running the software suites natively on Intel-based Macintosh systems and the latest Windows hardware. “Creative Suite 3 is the biggest launch in Adobe’s 25 year history and a milestone for the creative industry,” said Bruce Chizen, chief executive officer at Adobe. “This release reflects the powerful integration between Adobe and Macromedia and how our products bridge the gap between designers and developers. With new workflows that streamline collaboration and impact the development of rich content, designers and developers now have the creative license to engage audiences across virtually every medium.” Customers will be able to choose from the six all-new suites or individual full version upgrades of 13 stand-alone applications, including Photoshop CS3, Photoshop CS3 Extended, InDesign CS3, Illustrator CS3, Flash CS3 Professional, Dreamweaver CS3, Adobe Premiere Pro CS3, and After Effects CS3. Each edition of Adobe Creative Suite 3 integrates different configurations of Adobe's creative products to serve a breadth of design needs: Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium delivers an essential toolkit for print, web, interactive and mobile design while Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Standard focuses on professional print design and production. Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium combines the leading web design and development tools and Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Standard serves the professional web developer. Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium, meanwhile is a complete post-production solution for video professionals. Lastly, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection combines 12 new creative applications in one box, enabling customers to design across all media—print, web, interactive, mobile, video and film. With the Creative Suite 3 family, Adobe is increasing its focus on mobile development and the delivery of video rich content. Noting that Flash technology is emerging as a leader for the mass distribution of video across the Internet, the software developer said its making its video technologies available, cross-platform, to any creative delivering rich media experiences. In addition, a new common suite component, Adobe Device Central will be aimed at boosting the productivity of creative professionals who develop content for mobile handsets. Other shared features across the product line included an updated version of Adobe Bridge CS3, the hub of Adobe Creative Suite, providing instant access to Version Cue CS3, Acrobat Connect, and an expanded Adobe Stock Photos service. To celebrate the unveiling of Adobe Creative Suite 3, Adobe will host a launch event in New York City that will be webcast live on today at 3:30 p.m. EDT. Pricing and Availability Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium and Standard, and Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium and Standard will begin shipping in April 2007. Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium and Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection for Mac OS X on Intel-based systems and for Microsoft Windows XP and Windows Vista platforms will begin shipping worldwide in the third quarter of 2007. All configurations will be available through Adobe Authorized Resellers and the Adobe Store. Estimated street price for the Adobe Creative Suite 3 Design Premium is US$1799, US$1599 for Adobe Creative Suite 3 Web Premium, US$1699 for Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium, and US$2499 for Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection. There are numerous upgrade paths available for Adobe customers. For more detailed information about features, upgrade policies, pricing, and international versions please visit: www.adobe.com/go/creativesuite . |
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03-27-2007, 10:12 AM
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Adobe Vista Home Premium extended Master Designer Plus Edition
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Now all we need is the octo Mac Pros, Phenomenon, and Leopard. This should boost hardware sales nicely. |
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03-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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Just read this over at Mac World. Here's the pertinent point:
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   edit: Adobe also has upgrade pricing and flash-based presentations of some of the packages up on their website
"Too much of a good thing is great." Mae West
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03-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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ummm the webcast is Wednesday, not today.
edit: guess not! I wonder why I thought it was on Wednesday? thanks, donebylee edit2: I also thought it was at 7:30EST-9:00EST or something like that. whoops -=|Mgkwho
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03-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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03-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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It's a great time to be a student. Can't wait to see the student pricing on the Web Premium package. That is, if they offer a student rate for all packages.
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03-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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03-27-2007, 10:44 AM
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My guys in the studio have done a quick perusal via the Adobe and Macworld sites. Overall, it looks quite impressive. Certainly the concensus is that this is a major overhaul and anyone who criticized its 'delay' should be on their knees and apologizing profusely. At least, quit griefing about it.
For the old guys who have been using Adobe prods for years, they all think that it is now time to rejuvenate. Get rid of the old habits, and start afresh. Surely it will be most beneficial for the new kids on the block. Now they will be on the same page. One did crack about the necessity to change. To which those who were there, "You don't know the problems and griping raised during the transisiton from 25 cycle to 60… Same shit. Same shiter." For those who don't understand the analogy, try from 9 to X. We can't wait to view the webcast. That and and upgrade. Of course, management (and I am part of it) will want to wait (not me). Cost is a major factor. Learning being part of cost. There will be some glitches, but knowing that is a possibility it will be resolved no doubt. We have learned that invaribly, it is usually the user at fault. Mainly for not doing their due diligence, which is in most cases, "You didn't follow instructions." I don't allow crapping on developers. Crap happens. Have a lot of nice things happen just being nice, reasonable and understanding. Got 3 years of Apple Care for free once. Though I never have had to use it. So I end my dissertation and suggest that before anyone starts to critique, do some homework. Let the thing settle in a bit. Read. Visit the Adobe site. Read. Check to see what other products are not included in the suite and what is in store for them, e.g., GoLive. Watch the webcast. Listen and do some more reading. And for those who just can't wait to jump all over the price, there are upgrade prices, but more important, it is a professional application above all. We have all the old iterations, because sometime or another there are those who will never move up and we have to able to work with them. Their business is just to valuable not to. So let's be civil. It would be nice to have a forum of sensible discussions, open minded and willing to wait a few minutes more. |
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03-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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No sign of a GoLive update anywhere was there?
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03-27-2007, 10:51 AM
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Are you sure.
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Are you sure? Or are we talking about something different? From your Adobe link: "Adobe Creative Suite 3: See it live online Attend the launch event online on March 27, or view the recorded webcast." Last edited by Abster2core; 03-27-2007 at 11:05 AM.. |
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03-27-2007, 10:52 AM
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At $1699 for Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium, I don't think I'll be replacing final cut anytime soon. I'll probably pick up after effects and photoshop separately at a student price. Unless apple counters and I no longer need after effects. I've been wanting that for a long time.
Are the system requirements for this posted anywhere?
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03-27-2007, 10:52 AM
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03-27-2007, 10:54 AM
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It's funny, it seems like only yesterday that Adobe were violently denying rumours that they were scrapping GoLive in CS3.
Don't believe anything Adobe says. |
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03-27-2007, 10:58 AM
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03-27-2007, 11:01 AM
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The future of Adobe GoLive In November, 2006, Adobe announced that Adobe Dreamweaver, the industry leader in web design and development, would be integrated into Adobe Creative Suite® 3, and that the next version of Adobe GoLive would be available as a standalone product. We expect to make this new version, Adobe GoLive 9, available in late Spring 2007 in English, French, German, and Japanese. Until then, we will continue to sell and support GoLive CS2. Please refer to the GoLive FAQ (PDF, 120k) for more details. Further information about GoLive 9 will be available when we ship the new version. http://www.adobe.com/products/golive/index.html |
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03-27-2007, 11:08 AM
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03-27-2007, 11:11 AM
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And yes, a recorded version will be available later. And yes that would be a webcast too in my book. Webcast = media broadcast over the web, whether it is live or not. But if you want to wait until tomorrow... Personally, with all the important info (at least from my point of view) already available on Adobe's website, I don't think that I'll take the time to watch it. I got my upgrade prices already and they are well within the budget so I'm good to go. 
"Too much of a good thing is great." Mae West
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03-27-2007, 11:16 AM
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03-27-2007, 11:16 AM
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Wow this is actually really well priced for students!
http://www.adobe.com/education/purch...n_pricing.html After effects is $349! Photoshop CS3 Extended is 299! Design Standard is 399! Production Premium is $599! Maybe I will change nles, but I've grown so fond of fcp. I hope the next fcp is priced crazy low as well.
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03-27-2007, 11:18 AM
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film makers won't likely make the switch, but those that do video for web and non-film media content might be very attracted and i can see this being a good product for Adobe, bringing Premiere more into the mainstream than it is now. personally, i'm looking at this very closely and won't be buying the soon to be announced upgrade to FCS until after evaluating the Adobe offerings. |
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03-27-2007, 11:31 AM
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Even though Adobe is patting themselves on the back about their Mac Intel versions and Premiere returning to Mac, you can easily tell that they are still very Windows-centric. When you view the the CS3 flash demos online, the loading animation is "borrowed" from Windows Vista's new "waiting" icon. Couldn't they come up with something else? Sheesh! Also I noticed that all the CS2 trial versions have been removed but the CS3 versions are not up yet either.
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03-27-2007, 11:41 AM
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Where's FrameMaker? And RoboHelp?
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03-27-2007, 11:59 AM
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But now I am confused. My clock says it is the 27th and according to your link the webcast is today. Which I intend to watch today. I understood that you were saying that the 27th is not until tomorrow. Is this not convoluted or not. Anyway, no problem. In addition, as you pointed out, you have enough information to make a decision. I think i do too. However, not the staff (and I am part of them), it will be watched. Mainly for the nuances and those little subtleties that invaribly crop up when people talk live. I expect that a lot of the what is said will preempt a questions and thus save a lot of time later. |
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03-27-2007, 12:01 PM
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03-27-2007, 12:09 PM
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Framemaker http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ Robohelp http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/ Best check the Adobe 'Products' section first. |
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03-27-2007, 12:16 PM
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03-27-2007, 12:32 PM
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Huh???
Am I reading the chart correctly?
Is Photoshop only available in the Design Standard package? Do they not think that web Designers need Photoshop? Or production for that matter? And how can they have one called Master Collection that doesn't include the flagship App, PhotoShop? Looks like there will have to be a lot of purchasing to get what many will need. They should instead have an ala-cart system. 4 choices for standard and 7 for premium. Master includes ALL of them. It does smack of M$ marketing techniques. I guess they don't want to discourage pirating. |
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03-27-2007, 12:40 PM
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Anyway here are the links Framemaker Framemaker http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ Robohelp http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/ Best check the Adobe 'Products' section first. Robohelp http://www.adobe.com/products/robohe...fo/systemreqs/ (Still) Best check the Adobe 'Products' section first. |
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03-27-2007, 12:53 PM
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03-27-2007, 12:58 PM
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Can't wait to upgrade Macromedia Studio and PS7 to CS3 Web Premium! I won't know what to do with myself! $500 for a ton of new Intel-optimized apps, 2 or 3 versions beyond most that I've been using daily. Gimme!
I see that Adobe has taken down their former Freehand->Illustrator file-migration guide--but left a dead link. Hopefully that means new info is coming and the migration will now be easier than it used to be. Fingers crossed. I have a ton of Freehand 10 work, and I don't relish losing all my font kerning (or giving up editability) or having to do a lot of manual conversion.
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See also http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/il..._fhilltech.pdf Great Resource http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/ |
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03-27-2007, 01:22 PM
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"Adobe OnLocation™ CS3 (Windows® only), and Ultra® CS3 (Windows only). " If it is worth mentioning then it is worth money but you don't get a discount on the Mac version. I'm still annoyed by the entire CS suite concept because I have owned every major title of Adobe and Macromedia for over 15 years but they don't give any upgrade path other than from Photoshop. I already own Ai, PS, Fl, Dw, Af, iD, Acrobat not to mention lots of other obsolete/discontinued titles from both houses but yet no upgrade path. "You sir, for your continued support, must pay full retail for the Master Collection." m |
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