Apple preps first builds of Mac OS X 10.4.10 for testing

***AppleInsider*** · 05-17-2007, 12:01 PM

Exclusive: With the release of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard pushed back to October, Apple has bought itself more time to tie loose ends in the current Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system and will put forth those fixes via its first "dot ten" software update in quite some time, AppleInsider has learned.

According to those people familiar with the matter, the first pre-release builds of Mac OS X 10.4.10 began making the rounds in Cupertino earlier this month.

The Mac maker hopes to stabilize the software to the point where it can begin seeding copies of the software update externally to its thousands of Apple Developer Connection members as early as next week, those same people say.

At this time, specific fixes and feature enhancements are unknown. However, in speaking to editors recently, company representatives vowed to provide a fix for at least one Mac audio-related issue in a "forthcoming update."

Apple may also tap the impending Tiger update to lend software support to an upcoming series of Mac hardware updates that will include refreshed MacBook Pro notebooks and redesigned 20- and 24-inch iMac all-in-one desktop systems.

Although the company had originally intended to disperse its next-generation Leopard operating system around the same time as those hardware product launches, urgency in meeting its self-imposed June launch date for iPhone directly translated into a multi-month delay of Leopard.

Apple last updated Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger in March, when it released Mac OS X 10.4.9 with improved camera RAW support, improved DVD playback, enhanced Bluetooth support and more.

[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

mazola · 05-17-2007, 12:12 PM

It's The Apocalypse!

Craigb6 · 05-17-2007, 12:18 PM

Let the arguing about 10.4.10 begin!

mugwump · 05-17-2007, 12:33 PM

Wait, is that 10.4.1 again? I'm confuuuuuzed. Oh wait, I'm not.

mazola · 05-17-2007, 12:36 PM

Why don't they just call it 10.5, ship it on time in June/July, and be done with it?

kenaustus · 05-17-2007, 12:36 PM

I believe we were heading this way regardless of Leopard's delay. The iPhone is probably the driving force and Apple will want 10.4 users to have the basic environment available for them. While a lot of the iPhone software will come on a CD (for both Mac & Windows users) there will probably be some changes and 10.4.10 will keep everyone on the same page.

10.4.10 would probably also be needed for any new hardware that needs some of the code from Leopard. MBP and a iMac would be at the head of the list. I don't see Apple doing this for the Mac mini!

domerdel · 05-17-2007, 12:40 PM

suggestion for naming convention of updates

10.4.9A
10.4.9B
10.4.9C

or

10.4.9.1
10.4.9.2

I just think 10.4.10 is mistaken for 10.4.1

Ringo · 05-17-2007, 12:48 PM

I don't see why people have so much trouble with this. It's obviously a separator, not a decimal place. 10.4.9 doesn't make sense as a decimal number either.

Porchland · 05-17-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by domerdel

suggestion for naming convention of updates

10.4.9A
10.4.9B
10.4.9C

or

10.4.9.1
10.4.9.2

I just think 10.4.10 is mistaken for 10.4.1

No, just you.

PB · 05-17-2007, 01:02 PM

Hopefully, this will put to rest the silly arguments about the naming scheme of Mac OS X point updates.

bedouin · 05-17-2007, 01:03 PM

For some strange reason I always wanted to see a 10.X.10 release

SpamSandwich · 05-17-2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedouin

For some strange reason I always wanted to see a 10.X.10 release

How about an X.X.X release?

solipsism · 05-17-2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazola

Why don't they just call it 10.5, ship it on time in June/July, and be done with it?

Are you being serious?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenaustus

I believe we were heading this way regardless of Leopard's delay. The iPhone is probably the driving force and Apple will want 10.4 users to have the basic environment available for them. While a lot of the iPhone software will come on a CD (for both Mac & Windows users) there will probably be some changes and 10.4.10 will keep everyone on the same page.

10.4.10 would probably also be needed for any new hardware that needs some of the code from Leopard. MBP and a iMac would be at the head of the list. I don't see Apple doing this for the Mac mini!

I agree. Depending on when this is officially released, we may also see a 10.4.11.

Quote:

Originally Posted by domerdel

I just think 10.4.10 is mistaken for 10.4.1

Yet no one mistakes 10.4 for 1.4

Silencio · 05-17-2007, 01:17 PM

Might as well make it purely hexadecimal and call it 10.4.A.

elehcdn · 05-17-2007, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silencio

Might as well make it purely hexadecimal and call it 10.4.A.

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

Ringo · 05-17-2007, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elehcdn

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

*facepalm*

quinney · 05-17-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elehcdn

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

JupiterOne · 05-17-2007, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elehcdn

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

Soda just came out of my nose.

shadow · 05-17-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solipsism

I agree. Depending on when this is officially released, we may also see a 10.4.11.

It is pretty safe bet that we will see 10.4.11. Apple always makes a point update to previous version shortly after a new major version is released. And, no matter whether this particular 10.4.10 rumor is accurate, I doubt we will not see an update before October-November. And this means 2 updates: 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. The numbering is a no brainer too.

Charko · 05-17-2007, 01:53 PM

Surely this update is going to 'accommodate' the iPhone which is coming shortly.

**melgross** · 05-17-2007, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazola

Why don't they just call it 10.5, ship it on time in June/July, and be done with it?

No, MS already did that.

**melgross** · 05-17-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

How about an X.X.X release?

There are plenty of those.

Chucker · 05-17-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow

Apple always makes a point update to previous version shortly after a new major version is released.

I think you mean "shortly before".

Caribou Killa · 05-17-2007, 02:38 PM

This cat needs to be put down. For the love of all the tigers in the world please release leopard already.

wayland.ind · 05-17-2007, 02:49 PM

my ibook still doesn't recognize my Samsung SGH D900 after the 10.4.9 update although the phone is listed as supported by Sync as of 10.4.9.

mmmdoughnuts · 05-17-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silencio

Might as well make it purely hexadecimal and call it 10.4.A.

You beat me to it!

**JeffDM** · 05-17-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solipsism

Yet no one mistakes 10.4 for 1.4

I don't think that's necessarily applicable comparison, because a trailing zero after a decimal point adds nothing, but it does if it is before a decimal point. But even then, it never was meant to be treated as a simple number because it's not.

solipsism · 05-17-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDM

I don't think that's necessarily applicable comparison, because a trailing zero after a decimal point adds nothing, but it does if it is before a decimal point. But even then, it never was meant to be treated as a simple number because it's not.

True, but how should a trailing zero be treated after two decimals? I guess I just don't understand why people think there is—or should be—a single digit limitation.

Ireland · 05-17-2007, 04:06 PM

We'll live without getting too involved in this thread peoples.

fizzmaster · 05-17-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silencio

Might as well make it purely hexadecimal and call it 10.4.A.

Wouldn't that be A.4.A then?

PB · 05-17-2007, 04:26 PM

While fighting on the naming scheme, this sentence passed almost unnoticed:

Quote:

Apple may also tap the impending Tiger update to lend software support to an upcoming series of Mac hardware updates that will include refreshed MacBook Pro notebooks and redesigned 20- and 24-inch iMac all-in-one desktop systems.

I think it is quite important and if true, then a redesigned iMac should be out before Leopard is released. Also it seems that the new form will be not applied to the 17" model.

**JeffDM** · 05-17-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzmaster

Wouldn't that be A.4.A then?

Yep. Then the next update becomes X.T.X GTS

Bregalad · 05-17-2007, 04:55 PM

For every person who sees 10.4.10 and thinks it's 10.4.1, there's one who'd look at 10.4.A and wonder if it predates 10.4.1. The general public doesn't understand software numbering and hasn't heard of hexadecimals.

Lets face it, the whole OS X numbering is seriously messed up. We're currently running "Mac oh ess ten ten point four point nine" There's no reason to repeat the ten.

If the product is MacOS then a version number 10.4.9 makes sense. If the product is MacOS X, then the version number should be 4.9.

elroth · 05-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elehcdn

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

Thank you - best laugh this week...

gwoodpecker · 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM

Version ten comes after version nine, so it will be 10.4.10 and eventually 10.4.11. Why don't you people get that?

No magic numbering system, no hexadecimal system, just pure logic. End of story.

auxio · 05-17-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elroth

Thank you - best laugh this week...

A jokes are so passé here in Canada. As for the X.X.X comment, _that_ was brilliant! I almost ended up with ginger ale in my nose (seriously).

And what about the people who will confuse 10.4.10 with 2.4.2? With all this confusion, maybe Apple should just call it a service pack?

*ducks and covers*

anantksundaram · 05-17-2007, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

How about an X.X.X release?

I guess it would be called OS XXX?

cutemartin · 05-17-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PB

While fighting on the naming scheme, this sentence passed almost unnoticed:

I think it is quite important and if true, then a redesigned iMac should be out before Leopard is released. Also it seems that the new form will be not applied to the 17" model.

My thoughts entirely. How come people get so caught up on meaningless semantics that they miss what's really being said?

Who gives a monkey's what it's called, it's what it does that matters! (Cue apoplexy amongst politicians)

If 10.4.10 (or whatever) includes new functionality for new hardware, presumably originally intended for Leopard, that's the big news. It suggests:

- there are significant new capabilities in Leopard, which will require new hardware, and
- we will not have to wait for Leopard for the new hardware

Of course, this is peanuts compared to what the naming convention should be...

Cubert · 05-17-2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elehcdn

Wouldn't that make it sound like a Canadian CB radio operator?

That's definitely the best joke I've seen in these forums in a long time!

Cubert · 05-17-2007, 07:24 PM

Auxio,
I just got back from Toronto last week. I had never been there before. What a great city! I didn't make it out of downtown, but I had an amazing time and liked everything I saw.

It also doesn't hurt that the women there are smokin'!!!

05-17-2007, 12:01 PM	#1
*AppleInsider* Kasper's Automated Slave Join Date: Nov 1997 Posts: 6,159	Apple preps first builds of Mac OS X 10.4.10 for testing Exclusive: With the release of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard pushed back to October, Apple has bought itself more time to tie loose ends in the current Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system and will put forth those fixes via its first "dot ten" software update in quite some time, AppleInsider has learned. According to those people familiar with the matter, the first pre-release builds of Mac OS X 10.4.10 began making the rounds in Cupertino earlier this month. The Mac maker hopes to stabilize the software to the point where it can begin seeding copies of the software update externally to its thousands of Apple Developer Connection members as early as next week, those same people say. At this time, specific fixes and feature enhancements are unknown. However, in speaking to editors recently, company representatives vowed to provide a fix for at least one Mac audio-related issue in a "forthcoming update." Apple may also tap the impending Tiger update to lend software support to an upcoming series of Mac hardware updates that will include refreshed MacBook Pro notebooks and redesigned 20- and 24-inch iMac all-in-one desktop systems. Although the company had originally intended to disperse its next-generation Leopard operating system around the same time as those hardware product launches, urgency in meeting its self-imposed June launch date for iPhone directly translated into a multi-month delay of Leopard. Apple last updated Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger in March, when it released Mac OS X 10.4.9 with improved camera RAW support, improved DVD playback, enhanced Bluetooth support and more. [ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

05-17-2007, 12:12 PM	#2
mazola Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11	10.4.10 ?!? It's The Apocalypse!

05-17-2007, 12:18 PM	#3
Craigb6 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 16	Let the arguing about 10.4.10 begin! http://craigb6.blogspot.com/

05-17-2007, 12:36 PM	#6
kenaustus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 747	I believe we were heading this way regardless of Leopard's delay. The iPhone is probably the driving force and Apple will want 10.4 users to have the basic environment available for them. While a lot of the iPhone software will come on a CD (for both Mac & Windows users) there will probably be some changes and 10.4.10 will keep everyone on the same page. 10.4.10 would probably also be needed for any new hardware that needs some of the code from Leopard. MBP and a iMac would be at the head of the list. I don't see Apple doing this for the Mac mini! Ken

05-17-2007, 12:48 PM	#8
Ringo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Inside the beltway, outside the District. Posts: 292	I don't see why people have so much trouble with this. It's obviously a separator, not a decimal place. 10.4.9 doesn't make sense as a decimal number either. Ridiculous lucky captain rabbit king, lucky captain rabbit king nuggets are for the youth!

05-17-2007, 12:33 PM	#4
mugwump Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Evanston, Illinois Posts: 220	Wait, is that 10.4.1 again? I'm confuuuuuzed. Oh wait, I'm not.

05-17-2007, 12:40 PM	#7
domerdel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 78	suggestion for naming convention of updates 10.4.9A 10.4.9B 10.4.9C or 10.4.9.1 10.4.9.2 I just think 10.4.10 is mistaken for 10.4.1

05-17-2007, 01:02 PM	#10
PB Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,792	Hopefully, this will put to rest the silly arguments about the naming scheme of Mac OS X point updates.

05-17-2007, 01:03 PM	#11
bedouin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 51	For some strange reason I always wanted to see a 10.X.10 release

05-17-2007, 01:17 PM	#14
Silencio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 75	Might as well make it purely hexadecimal and call it 10.4.A.

05-17-2007, 01:53 PM	#20
Charko Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 84	Surely this update is going to 'accommodate' the iPhone which is coming shortly. Charko

05-17-2007, 02:38 PM	#24
Caribou Killa Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Havalina Posts: 134	This cat needs to be put down. For the love of all the tigers in the world please release leopard already. iBook 1.33 Ghz, 512 MB, 40GB Don't Steal iPods. Steal Music.

05-17-2007, 02:49 PM	#25
wayland.ind Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 15	Speaking of which... my ibook still doesn't recognize my Samsung SGH D900 after the 10.4.9 update although the phone is listed as supported by Sync as of 10.4.9.

05-17-2007, 04:06 PM	#29
Ireland Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,561	We'll live without getting too involved in this thread peoples. Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D

05-17-2007, 04:55 PM	#33
Bregalad Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fangorn forest Posts: 282	For every person who sees 10.4.10 and thinks it's 10.4.1, there's one who'd look at 10.4.A and wonder if it predates 10.4.1. The general public doesn't understand software numbering and hasn't heard of hexadecimals. Lets face it, the whole OS X numbering is seriously messed up. We're currently running "Mac oh ess ten ten point four point nine" There's no reason to repeat the ten. If the product is MacOS then a version number 10.4.9 makes sense. If the product is MacOS X, then the version number should be 4.9.

05-17-2007, 05:31 PM	#35
gwoodpecker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zurich, Switzerland Posts: 366	Version ten comes after version nine, so it will be 10.4.10 and eventually 10.4.11. Why don't you people get that? No magic numbering system, no hexadecimal system, just pure logic. End of story.

05-17-2007, 07:24 PM	#40
Cubert Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 472	Auxio, I just got back from Toronto last week. I had never been there before. What a great city! I didn't make it out of downtown, but I had an amazing time and liked everything I saw. It also doesn't hurt that the women there are smokin'!!!

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