Apple set to begin testing Mac OS X 10.4.11 Update

[AppleInsider]

Apple on Tuesday afternoon began informing a select group of developers that it plans at least one more maintenance update to its Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger operating system ahead of October's planned release of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Since developers have yet to received the first pre-release seeds of the software update, details outside of the version numbering -- Mac OS X 10.4.11 -- are few and far between.

In late June, Apple released Mac OS X 10.4.10, which included enhancements to Bluetooth, third-party application support, and USB. However, the update introduced an audio bug that caused popping sound on some Intel-based Mac.

In repairing the audio bug, Apple earlier this month issued an Audio Update and also re-released Mac OS X 10.4.10 for Intel as "Mac OS X 10.4.10 Update v1.1."

Aside from an unresolved third-party webcam bug that cropped up with Mac OS X 10.4.10, it's currently unclear which other system components the upcoming Mac OS X 10.4.11 Update will target.

According to MacNN, the aforementioned webcam bug prevents third-party web cams from being detected as USB audio devices, therefore rendering them useless as a USB audio device in anything except Parallels Desktop for Mac.

"It appears to be an Intel-only issue," wrote MacNN. "A month after reporting it (and having it confirmed by Apple), there is still no resolution."

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[meh 2]

Eleven? How many times has that happened?

[plus]

Here's a candidate for something to fix in 10.4.11: Since updating to 10.4.10, my MacBook Pro repeatedly has trouble maintaining a wi-fi connection. It is only a problem when it's running on battery; while on A/C power, the connection's always there. When it fails, the wi-fi signal indicator says that it still has a full-power signal, but there's simply no data flow (web pages, email, etc.). When I turn Airport off and back on, then it re-acquires the signal for real and works fine. And the base station here is a current-model Airport Extreme, so it *shouldn't* be anything funny about some non-Apple basestation.

[davebarnes]

"These go to eleven"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_is_Spinal_Tap

[bigpatky]

Originally Posted by plus

Here's a candidate for something to fix in 10.4.11: Since updating to 10.4.10, my MacBook Pro repeatedly has trouble maintaining a wi-fi connection. It is only a problem when it's running on battery; while on A/C power, the connection's always there. When it fails, the wi-fi signal indicator says that it still has a full-power signal, but there's simply no data flow (web pages, email, etc.). When I turn Airport off and back on, then it re-acquires the signal for real and works fine. And the base station here is a current-model Airport Extreme, so it *shouldn't* be anything funny about some non-Apple basestation.

i get the same dropped wifi problems. i used to think it was my linksys router, but i've been hearing more and more macbook pros with the same issue. really frustrating. i haven't noticed a difference between battery and a/c, though.

other issues i would like resolved:

my frontrow doesn't play videos or music without itunes first being opened. it will freeze up and it's annoying to have to force quit. i've talked to apple care and they said they are aware it is an issue with some computers and it will be fixed at some point with an update. it's been 9 months now.

my macbook pro gets way too hot for comfort. i have to put something in between it and my lap sometimes. very annoying.

[bigpatky]

Originally Posted by bigpatky

i get the same dropped wifi problems. i used to think it was my linksys router, but i've been hearing more and more macbook pros with the same issue. really frustrating. i haven't noticed a difference between battery and a/c, though.

other issues i would like resolved:

my frontrow doesn't play videos or music without itunes first being opened. it will freeze up and it's annoying to have to force quit. i've talked to apple care and they said they are aware it is an issue with some computers and it will be fixed at some point with an update. it's been 9 months now.

my macbook pro gets way too hot for comfort. i have to put something in between it and my lap sometimes. very annoying.

there's an update for the airport extreme on intel macbooks, macbook pros and mac minis that just came out. hopefully that fixes the problem.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._2_0_beta.html

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by plus

Here's a candidate for something to fix in 10.4.11: Since updating to 10.4.10, my MacBook Pro repeatedly has trouble maintaining a wi-fi connection. It is only a problem when it's running on battery; while on A/C power, the connection's always there. When it fails, the wi-fi signal indicator says that it still has a full-power signal, but there's simply no data flow (web pages, email, etc.). When I turn Airport off and back on, then it re-acquires the signal for real and works fine. And the base station here is a current-model Airport Extreme, so it *shouldn't* be anything funny about some non-Apple basestation.

I have the same problem with a last generation iMac and a PowerBookG4 at my parents home but that's maybe another issue... At my home everything works great with a MacBookPro... But my Dock isn't working properly, is there anyone else having some trouble with it?
I'm looking forward to 10.5 anyway

[Bacillus]

I smell a 2008 pushback

We are 90 days from an October release (October 31st 2007). Add to this 30 days (?) to press the DVD's/package them, which cuts the time down even more. Put another way - they have about 2000 hours to be done with it, and I've yet to read any comments about the builds that indicate they are near RC status.

[britwithgoodteeth]

Originally Posted by plus

Here's a candidate for something to fix in 10.4.11: Since updating to 10.4.10, my MacBook Pro repeatedly has trouble maintaining a wi-fi connection. It is only a problem when it's running on battery; while on A/C power, the connection's always there. When it fails, the wi-fi signal indicator says that it still has a full-power signal, but there's simply no data flow (web pages, email, etc.). When I turn Airport off and back on, then it re-acquires the signal for real and works fine. And the base station here is a current-model Airport Extreme, so it *shouldn't* be anything funny about some non-Apple basestation.

Same problem for me with 2 PowerBooks and 1 MacBook.

Happens with a Linksys or Netgear router.

[steviet02]

Originally Posted by britwithgoodteeth

Same problem for me with 2 PowerBooks and 1 MacBook.

Happens with a Linksys or Netgear router.

It was so bad I went back to 10.4.9... Did you try the new patch on any of your machines yet?

[biggsjm]

The wifi issue with 10.4.10 evidently is related to specific ISPs and their Gateway equipment. Its a firmware issue that doesn't play with the OS very well.

Changing your router/gateway to something other than a 2WIRE seems to be the only fix.

[britwithgoodteeth]

Originally Posted by biggsjm

The wifi issue with 10.4.10 evidently is related to specific ISPs and their Gateway equipment. Its a firmware issue that doesn't play with the OS very well.

Changing your router/gateway to something other than a 2WIRE seems to be the only fix.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 2WIRE?

[MarkyMac]

I have a Dual G5 2.0 GHz
10.4.10
4.5GB RAM

I have audio rubbish happening at times also.

It is NOT just an Intel thang, I can testify to that action.

MB

[Ireland]

I should hope so cause 10.4.10 was so bad I had to go back to 10.4.9

[SpamSandwich]

Originally Posted by MarkyMac

I have a Dual G5 2.0 GHz
10.4.10
4.5GB RAM

I have audio rubbish happening at times also.

It is NOT just an Intel thang, I can testify to that action.

MB

What kind of audio problems are you having?... so far, so good on my computer (non-Intel).

[PB]

Originally Posted by Bacillus

I smell a 2008 pushback

We are 90 days from an October release (October 31st 2007). Add to this 30 days (?) to press the DVD's/package them, which cuts the time down even more. Put another way - they have about 2000 hours to be done with it, and I've yet to read any comments about the builds that indicate they are near RC status.

Yes, it seems more and more likely. Perhaps I am reading to it more than it deserves, but the "at least one more maintenance update" excerpt is worrisome. Unless Apple decides to unleash the big cat full of fleas. And fix it by 2008.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by Ireland

I should hope so cause 10.4.10 was so bad I had to go back to 10.4.9

How can I go back to 10.4.9?

Thanks,
Cedric

[Ireland]

Originally Posted by Cedric

How can I go back to 10.4.9?

Thanks,
Cedric

Try installing this Cedric and see if it installs, it may not. Any problems just call.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by Ireland

it may not

You're right it doesn't. I'll go for reinstall 10.4 and then update to 10.4.9. It would have been great if it worked (would have been easier)... Thanks anyway!

If you're lucky enough to be Irish then you're lucky enough

[Ireland]

Originally Posted by Cedric

If you're lucky enough to be Irish then you're lucky enough

Thanks, personally for me It's a love hate relationship.

[plus]

Originally Posted by bigpatky

there's an update for the airport extreme on intel macbooks, macbook pros and mac minis that just came out. hopefully that fixes the problem.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._2_0_beta.html

Yes, a timely update there. I installed it last night and my wi-fi was rock solid last night (and this morning) whilst running on battery. So this wi-fi update seems to have fixed the zombie wi-fi problem (for me at least - 15" 2.0 GHz MBP).

[StuBeck]

Originally Posted by Bacillus

I smell a 2008 pushback

We are 90 days from an October release (October 31st 2007). Add to this 30 days (?) to press the DVD's/package them, which cuts the time down even more. Put another way - they have about 2000 hours to be done with it, and I've yet to read any comments about the builds that indicate they are near RC status.

Yep. As it is, if it does come out in October, I probably won't buy it until December anyways. Everyone is complaining about Vista having problems...at least they had an RC out WAY before it was supposed to come out. Wonder if this will stop Apple's snide remarks the next time a Microsoft OS has a delay.

[meh 2]

Specifically, what "snide remarks" were you referring to?

[lkrupp]

Originally Posted by britwithgoodteeth

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 2WIRE?

2WIRE is a brand name of networking devices like Linksys or DLink. They make routers and such. at&t DSL uses 2WIRE products in their wireless gateway equipment.

[hypoluxa]

Originally Posted by davebarnes

"These go to eleven"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_is_Spinal_Tap

perfect post

[StuBeck]

Originally Posted by meh 2

Specifically, what "snide remarks" were you referring to?

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...taxonomyId=125

[macnando@ostras.net]

Well, my G4 (1.25 Ghz) also pops (audio) and freezes with 10.4.10. How to get back to 10.4.9? I am new here and I'm very thankful for any help.
macnando

[macnando@ostras.net]

Originally Posted by macnando@ostras.net

Well, my G4 (1.25 Ghz) also pops (audio) and freezes with 10.4.10. How to get back to 10.4.9? I am new here and I'm very thankful for any help.
macnando

Me again. I found it here:

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...updateppc.html

I will try later.