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Old 10-01-2007, 07:30 PM   #1
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Steve Jobs trotted out to motivate Yahoo! execs

In a move that reportedly resonated well with many of Yahoo's top brass, chief executive Jerry Yang on Friday did his part to revitalize sagging morale at the search giant with an exec-level meeting that included a surprise motivational speech by Steve Jobs as one of its highlights.

Yang, who called Jobs one of his "heroes," was admittedly nervous as he sat down to interview the Apple chief amongst some 300+ Yahoo executives who he was hoping to inspire and set forth on a new path towards success and innovation.

The basic message that Jobs delivered was that Yahoo -- a company with one of the largest Internet user bases -- can do and achieve anything. Like Apple, he explained, Yahoo retains some incredibly valuable assets, but now must focus on execution.

Among the other key focuses of the meeting laid out by Yang and other Yahoo executives were "the building out of Yahoo’s ad network, taking advantage of its 'consumer insights'; the creation of a healthier corporate culture where fresh ideas could bubble up more effectively and be launched with less agony; and a new move to create a more open network a la Facebook on Yahoo for third-party developers to publish on and create more robust offerings."

While many were reportedly dubious of the latter and Yahoo's ability to open itself up, the meeting was deemed a resounding success with several of the company's vice presidents returning to their jobs "feeling jazzed up and ready to rumble."
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:36 PM   #2
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Slow news day.


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Old 10-01-2007, 07:42 PM   #3
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Quote ""feeling jazzed up and ready to rumble."



DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELO.....


oh, wrong steve.

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Old 10-01-2007, 07:47 PM   #4
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Slow news day.
It was, but I honestly would have published this even on a busy news day. You don't at least find it interesting that they asked him and he showed up?

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Old 10-01-2007, 07:59 PM   #5
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It was, but I honestly would have published this even on a busy news day. You don't at least find it interesting that they asked him and he showed up?

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Meh, I was more thinking; "There's a few issues in inside your company that need to be addressed first Steve - namely that phone thing."


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Old 10-01-2007, 08:05 PM   #6
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I found it very interesting, and I wonder what Google thought about this?


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Old 10-01-2007, 08:06 PM   #7
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:48 PM   #8
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I found it very interesting, and I wonder what Google thought about this?
Enough of that mischief there. Stay back after class you


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Old 10-01-2007, 09:04 PM   #9
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It was, but I honestly would have published this even on a busy news day. You don't at least find it interesting that they asked him and he showed up?

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The image of Steve Jobs being brought out to amuse some people like a dressage horse made me laugh, so thanks for that at least.

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Old 10-01-2007, 09:21 PM   #10
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It was, but I honestly would have published this even on a busy news day. You don't at least find it interesting that they asked him and he showed up?

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I found it interesting.

I'm intrigued by the relationships Apple and SJ is developing with Yahoo and Google. I wonder where it's heading.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:09 PM   #11
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Yahoo Mail Beta

Yahoo! can start by allowing Safari users access to their mail beta.


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Old 10-01-2007, 10:31 PM   #12
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I found it very interesting, and I wonder what Google thought about this?
Thinking, Apple wants to expand it's brand.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:36 PM   #13
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Yahoo! can start by allowing Safari users access to their mail beta.
Yeah.... p***es me off.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:55 PM   #14
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Yang, who called Jobs one of his "heroes," was admittedly nervous as he sat down to interview the Apple chief amongst some 300+ Yahoo executives
Dang, 300+ Yahoo executives?! Does Yahoo have an employee base to do the work??? It'll take more than an inspirational speech by Jobs.


Can you imagine 300+ executives at Apple?? I mean sure there is the Top Brass and of course lower tier managers and department heads of their respective employees but I doubt that they would fall into the category of executives... would they?
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:07 PM   #15
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Yeah.... p***es me off.
The latest Yahoo Mail release works with Safari 3.03 - albeit a couple of rendering bugs.

I don't think the full release has rolled out to all their mail farms yet, however.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:26 PM   #16
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The basic message that Jobs delivered was that Yahoo -- a company with one of the largest Internet user bases -- can do and achieve anything. Like Apple, he explained, Yahoo retains some incredibly valuable assets, but now must focus on execution.
Is he the world's most expensive motivational poster boy/speaker?

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Among the other key focuses of the meeting laid out by Yang and other Yahoo executives were "the building out of Yahoo’s ad network, taking advantage of its 'consumer insights'; the creation of a healthier corporate culture where fresh ideas could bubble up more effectively and be launched with less agony; and a new move to create a more open network a la Facebook on Yahoo for third-party developers to publish on and create more robust offerings."

While many were reportedly dubious of the latter and Yahoo's ability to open itself up, the meeting was deemed a resounding success with several of the company's vice presidents returning to their jobs "feeling jazzed up and ready to rumble."
The best way to fix corporate culture is to find the right people in the company, group together and defect to build a new company, but then, there probably are non-compete contracts in the way.

And Yahoo's ad network bites, but that's just a perspective of someone that's actually tried to use it. I've never seen an internet-based service so poorly assembled that it might be worse than services designed to drive people away. Yahoo obviously didn't even properly try out the service / network before buying it.


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Old 10-02-2007, 12:28 AM   #17
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Is he the world's most expensive motivational poster boy/speaker?
He's 100x better than Anthony Robbins, at least. Though when the RDF wears off, you'll be like, OMFG what did I just do... I've just bought 5 MacBookPros and 10 iPhones because I was so inspired to change the world...

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...The best way to fix corporate culture is to find the right people in the company, group together and defect to build a new company, but then, there probably are non-compete contracts in the way.
Somebody said non-compete was illegal in California...?

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And Yahoo's ad network bites, but that's just a perspective of someone that's actually tried to use it. I've never seen an internet-based service so poorly assembled that it might be worse than services designed to drive people away. Yahoo obviously didn't even properly try out the service / network before buying it.
I hate Yahoo with a passion, in general. Everything about it -- mail, messaging, ads, portals, music, everything.

I think basically Yahoo is freaking out because Google is up their rear end and FaceBook is making everyone, er, lose face.

I had an interview in 2004 with Yahoo Australia/NZ in Sydney. I had (a) no idea how I got the interview (and they called me back for a second interview) (b) no idea what the position was (c) no idea what their revenue model was or what everyone in that big office actually did.

Social networking 2.0 I at least understand. Google Maps, Search, Mail, Calendar, Blogs, I get. OK flickr is actually cool but it was independently developed before Yahoo bought it???

In fact, W.T.F. does Yahoo actually *do* nowadays????
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:31 AM   #18
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Business picking up?
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:59 AM   #20
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Who loves ya, baby?

You guys are great! Yeah, I know your chief competitor's search is hard-coded into our browser's toolbar, and yeah, Eric's on my board, but no, you guys, really, I love you, and you should really keep doing all that great stuff you do. And look! I brought each of you a coupon for a Starbucks' latte!
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You guys are great! Yeah, I know your chief competitor's search is hard-coded into our browser's toolbar, and yeah, Eric's on my board, but no, you guys, really, I love you, and you should really keep doing all that great stuff you do. And look! I brought each of you a coupon for a Starbucks' latte!
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regarding yahoo, I feel that their brand logo is dated. Even the name seem a bit misplaced in todays world. Apple maintains an ultra hip presence and aura, among others. The Yahoo logo seems quaint, this includes the basic cosmetic design of there site. I think their content is top notch and services effective. They need to tighten up their design and grow up a bit.
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In fact, W.T.F. does Yahoo actually *do* nowadays????
Good point, they've been losing mind-share for quite a few years now. Best thing they've got right now in my opinion is their email service. They have one of the most recognized and trusted domains for personal email accounts.

Unfortunately, they've let email hosting languish. POP access is great but why not IMAP? Their new web-mail interface looks slick but is too slow for many users to use without aggrevation. I've tried it off and on for a long time and the old interface has always proven quicker and more reliable.

I've exclusively used a single yahoo email account for almost exactly a decade now. Having a static email address has made life simple. Collegues, businesses, and cquaintances from a decade ago can contact me without difficulty. Watching people constantly hop email addresses leaves me baffled. Why not pay a few bucks a year and keep the same email address until the email hosting service goes out of business?

Yahoo could leverage their longevity and reputation to make themselves the go to provider for longterm email addresses. In my opinion, this should be their core service behind perhaps their dieing porthole/search-engine business.


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Yahoo! has become the new AOL... which means they are in a good position to be purchased at a rock-bottom price by Microsoft or the like... maybe Facebook with search...


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Why is Jobs able to play the fence at both google and yahoo so easily?


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