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Kasper's Automated Slave
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Apple's iTunes Plus now world's largest DRM-free music catalog
Apple on Wednesday issued a formal announcement regarding its expanded iTunes Plus service, which now offers more than two million tracks at the reduced price of just 99 cents.
All iTunes Plus tracks feature DRM-free music with high quality 256 kbps AAC encoding for audio quality which the company claims is "virtually indistinguishable from the original recordings." In addition, the iTunes Plus catalog is now the largest DRM-free catalog in the world, and includes artists from Sub Pop, Nettwerk, Beggars Group, IODA, The Orchard and many others, along with EMI's digital catalog. "iTunes Plus has been incredibly popular with our customers and now we're making it available at an even more affordable price," said Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of iTunes. "We're adding over two million tracks from key independent labels in addition to EMI's digital catalog and look forward to even more labels and artists making their music available on iTunes Plus." EMI began offering their catalog on iTunes Plus earlier this year, and their selection has grown to include singles and albums from the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Norah Jones, Frank Sinatra and the solo catalogs of all four Beatles. With the expansion of iTunes Plus, customers can now download tracks from a variety of labels without limitations on the type of music player or number of computers that purchased songs can be played on. iTunes Plus songs purchased from the iTunes Store will play on all iPods, iPhone, Windows or Mac computers, widescreen TVs with Apple TV, as well as many other digital music players. Apple, however, did not comment on how owners of DRM-wrapped tracks purchased from its download service in the past can upgrade to the iTunes Plus versions. Before dropping the price of iTunes Plus tracks from $1.29 to $0.99, the Cupertino-based company charged a $0.30 per-track upgrade fee. Apple's iTunes Store maintains its position as the world's largest digital media catalog with over six million songs, 550 television shows and over 500 movies and has sold over three billion songs, 100 million TV shows and over two million movies. Reports that Apple would expand its iTunes Plus service while simultaneously dropping the price of the higher-quality songs were first published by ArsTechnica earlier this week. |
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DRM free is how it should have been from the beginning. And it should have been MP3 not some alien format no one had ever heard of.
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Thank God for competition.
"Don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking" -Steve Jobs. I guess he forgot to add "unless its mine."
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The Zune supported AAC from day one and I suspect that now that Apple is that largest online retailer of DRM-free audio that firmware updates for all the other players will finally support AAC. |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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so 100 dollars store credit for people who bought the files for 1,29?
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Location: Ireland
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Looks like they can't simply flick a switch, Harrison is still 1.29
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Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
Last edited by Ireland; 10-17-2007 at 10:15 AM.. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Jersey, US
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AAC replaces MP3
How long is it going to take everyone to get it—MP3 is obsolescent, and very nearly obsolete! AAC is roughly a decade newer, and has replaced MP3. Heck, even my Sony-Ericsson "walkman" mobile phone (W810i) supports AAC!
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so no need to tell people whats obsolete and what not - because when it works, people make it obsolete, not the manufacturers trying to sell new old bs. |
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Factory car stereos may support MP3 but usually not AAC, after-market car stereos usually support MP3 and it's a crapshoot between WMA or AAC support or neither. |
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Friends, whether you are Apple consumers or shareholders -- I hope each of you is both -- these are the best of times.
Stop bitching. |
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I got my mind set on, buying some of those ![]() - update: just tried to down load "I got my mind set on you" and it says something to the effect of "this song is being modified please try again later" so it seems its really not as simple as throwing a switch. wonder will they email me a reminder?
I don't see how an anti M$ stance can be seen as a bad thing on an Apple forum I really can't!
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And when you're making something new, part of the battle is explaining it to people. And since most people already knew what MP3 was, they should have leveraged that, instead of futher complicating things by changing the format on people. And then to add insult to injury they add DRM which is a whole other layer of conceptual complexity. It's a wonder it took off at all. |
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Or, since the codec required DRM by the RIAA, had less licensing fees than MP3, is better quality than MP3 and--most importantly--was invisible to the user when paired with an iPod that there were many reasons to go to AAC. |
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I don't see how an anti M$ stance can be seen as a bad thing on an Apple forum I really can't!
nagromme - According to Amazon: "SpongBob Typing Tutor" is outselling Windows |
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AAC is part of the MPEG-4 standard. Does that really make it some alien format that no one had ever heard of? Also, AAC is more open and less proprietary than MP3. I think players should definitely play MP3 for the existing files, but I really don't see why MP3 format should be used for new files, except by owners of older players. |
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Later, once people are used to it, and understand and have experience with music downloads as such, then introduce things such as superior codecs and other options. |
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His name is ascii, after all. If he ever gets it he should change his name to Unicode or UTF-8.
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![]() And, of course, it wasn't Apple that insisted on DRM. Precious little good the music store would be with no one willing to put their music in it for sale. Interestingly, some of the record labels mentioned in the article (Beggars and The Orchard come to mind right offhand) have been available on eMusic for quite some time, in MP3 format, for as low as $0.25/track IIRC. Seeing that iTunes is a household name and eMusic is relatively unknown, I'd say Apple made the right decision to get the studios on board and use DRM. |
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I'm just saying you ease people in to things. Who knows how much bigger they could have been by now if they had started out non-DRM MP3. CDs might be obsolete by now.
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And if you were trying to explain character encoding to someone would you teach them ascii first and then utf-8, or would you just jump right in to the variable number of bytes per character that is utf-8?
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How about it not existing at all. Apple had to fight with the major labels (read: RIAA) for years over subscription verse purchasing before they even allowed Apple to sell their music. Without DRM there would be no major labels and therefore no real interest in the iTunes Store.
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for normal people ipod = mp3 player. amazon was wise enough to notice that people "just get" mp3s and appropriately called their store "amazon mp3" (but even them, i think they offer other formats).... my point is, unprotected mp3s should ALWAYS be a choice on the menu because the format is popular, regardless of other technical considerations. |
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I think it's possible or even likely that how Apple did it was the way to get the labels to open up in the first place. Either way, we're gradually getting what we want. I doubt the labels would have done this without significant economic pressure from Apple's system. Last edited by JeffDM; 10-17-2007 at 12:39 PM.. |
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I suppose you have a point. If they had used MPG, the itunes store, as well as the players might have bcome more popular. |
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Everything is how it should be from the beginning. It's just about money. Not about what's right. If we were talking about what's right, then we would be offered several different bitrates to download including lossless.
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UK iTunes Plus-79p and 99p?
throughout all of this no one has mentioned any iTunes stores except the US one. i cant understand what is happening on the UK store, since this morning the iTunes Plus section has been closed (giving 'could not complete' errors) and when you try to buy an iTunes Plus song it says the item is being updated....thats a whole day (and possibly more) of lost iTunes Plus sales in at least one country which is a real pain to me right now as i need to download a Plus album, it seems it really isnt as simple as flicking a switch.
What is interesting is UK price updates, it would be sooooo cruel for Apple to make the US Plus store cheaper and not change any others, well.......since this morning some iTunes Plus tracks have been displaying a price of 79p, the same as non-iTunes Plus tracks, BUT i would say the slight majority of tracks still bear the 99p price tag, is it really going to be left like that!?!? meaning you would pay the same in cents as you would in pence for an iTunes Plus track? and i hope they dont try and pull the 'its harder to sell stuff in the UK and it costs more and anything outside the US is hard to do" when the biggest iTunes Plus label, EMI, is based in London, dont get me wrong i love iTunes and Apple but they trump up the international bilge stuff all the time |
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thats it, im suing apple, i want my 20p back!
"i find that if you keep talkin', your mouth comes up with stuff..." Karl Pilkington
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Über-pwnd!
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
—Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. |
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Location: Ireland
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Thanks Amazon.
Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
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Yes, thanks Amazon. I'd like to see Apple lower their DRM'd music to 89 cents too.
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Nearly every major car stereo manufacturer offers models that will playback .m4a files recorded onto CD in a data format. This includes Pioneer, Sony, Alpine, Kenwood, Clarion, Panasonic, and JVC.
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