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Kasper's Automated Slave
Join Date: Nov 1997
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Apple patent hints at tactile multi-touch keyboard
A new filing reveals that Apple has researched a method that would allow a touch-sensitive keyboard to generate physical feedback without interfering in gestures.
Published Thursday but originally applied for in April of last year, the US Patent Office application argues that designers of perfectly flat touch controls are often faced with a difficult choice, particularly if they want to include controls that require swipes or multi-touch gestures. The creators can either accept that users may have to readjust or else strike a compromise with bumps or ridges on the keyboard, which can limit the amount of control. "It is believed that mainstream acceptance of typing on touch surfaces will require shortening of the typing re-acclimation period, which, in turn, requires improved keystroke tactility," the patent reads. But adding permanent bumps or ridges as a guide "has several disadvantages for touch surfaces also intended for pointing and gesture. For example, the key-edge ridges impede lateral pointing motions, giving the surface a rough washboard feel. The ridges also disrupt position interpolation from capacitive sensor arrays as the fingertip flesh lifts over the ridge." To solve this, Apple inventor Wayne Carl Westerman suggests multiple solutions that the company could use with future products. The simplest of these would be to selectively use different feedback techniques, including ridges or symbols, on the areas where they would make the most sense. The typing home row could have dots, for example. However, a second method would install an articulating frame underneath the keyboard that changes the surface depending on the immediate context. When in typing mode, the frame could raise to create edges between virtual keys, provide haptic (vibration) feedback, or create concavities that act like the dips in a traditional keyboard. A third option would use a static frame and fill an area under the touch surface with an easily deformed material, such as a foam, gel, or even air. The resistance created by the material would be strong enough to maintain a flat surface when only light pressure is applied for gliding motions, but sink slightly for typing or other deliberate presses. In contrast to some Apple patents, the latest application is described in isolation from any other device and appears to be a general patent for the content. The explicit mention of the need to support multi-touch technology, however, reveals research took place at the same time as Apple was in mid-development of the iPhone. |
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Location: New Orleans
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Philly, USA
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Very interesting. I never thought there could be a proper compromise between tactile feedback and multitouch/display keyboard. I don't see this tech happening for a long time, and it'd take some adjustment since I don't look at my keys when I type, but I could see it being VERY useful for, say, Final Cut Pro (for which people often use keyboard overlays to show all the controls).
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Location: toronto
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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It exists
They type of keyboard already exists. Apple bought the comapny a few years ago. The keyboard is called a TouchStream. It was by fingerworks. I have been using one for a few years now. I hope Apple starts making them so that I can get a replacement for what I have.
The original company http://www.fingerworks.com/ The place a number of customers went when the comoany shut down. http://fingerfans.dreamhosters.com/ |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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If you look at Apple's new super-flat keyboards and the iPhone, I think it is obvious that Apple wants to move to a virtual keyboards very soon.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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I Want to Buy it NOW!
I am ready for this keyboard today as the new Apple aluminum keyboard I purchased has been giving me spacebar problems from the first day (it runs words together as sometimes it will not include a space when hit).
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Imagine a 15" MBP with 2 multi-touch screens. One for the screen, and one for the keyboard/trackpad. Also be able to rotate the screen and fold it flat like a tablet. That is my prediction for MacWorld!
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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interesting ... as if they would have read my new blog about future science & technology stuff, i recently descriebed that idea.
http://www.scienceforecast.com |
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There's one idea I still have that hasn't been taken mainstream. It's to rid the world (once and for all) of CDs. It's not really an invention, per se, but it's the idea to sell music on flash drives. Sturdy, dependable, long-lasting. Put a bunch on a key ring and take 'em with you. Car radios can just have a USB port, you plug it in and play your music. Solid-state is cheap enough now that you could fit an hours'-worth of a really well-encoded MP3 on a 256MB chip... something that'll cost about a buck to produce. But it'll be better than CDs. Damn, I hate CDs. When will we move away from freaking spinning media. Anyway, yay, multi-touch tactile keyboard. -Clive |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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"To solve this, ____ inventor Wayne Carl Westerman suggests multiple solutions that the company could use with future products."
Funny thing is, if this is filed by an individual inventor who doesn't work for Apple, people here will all be screaming "patent troll"! That aside, I don't see any of the solutions in this filing can be applied to iPhone. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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I failed to apply for a patent on the following...
![]() http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...05#post1156405 ...and I had another idea posted earlier, but apparently it is lost somewhere in the out-of-date AI thread warehouse.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
—Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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bit of a ramble then, but i think ive got my point acros, but yeh great idea ![]()
"i find that if you keep talkin', your mouth comes up with stuff..." Karl Pilkington
Last edited by mbaynham; 10-26-2007 at 04:27 PM.. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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Groups have already been selling their albums on flash drives (White Stripes and others).
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
—Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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hey clive at five,
of course apple DIDN'T read my blog. but: the fact that apple has patented it, strongly supports my idea, that this stuff might get relevant. thats why I found it to be interesting! |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wisconsin, USA
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regards, Tim |
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