Google 700MHz bid; Zander out at Moto; analyst on next iPhone

***AppleInsider*** · 11-30-2007, 06:17 PM

Google will officially bid for a slice of the 700MHz spectrum that will permit the creation of a new US-wide wireless data network. Meanwhile, Motorola chief Ed Zander is bowing out, and a researcher believes the next iPhone is already delayed.

Google pledges bid in FCC auction

An extra piece was put into place for Google's mobile puzzle on Friday when the company said it would place at least a $4.6 billion bid for a portion of the 700MHz wireless spectrum up for grabs in a Federal Communications Commission auction to take place in January.

The move has been predicted since July, when the company pushed the FCC to institute an open access rule for the winning bidder: any company that owns key parts of the spectrum must allow any device and any software to run on its airspace to prevent the "walled garden" of most US cellphone carriers, which tightly control their services.

Soon to be discarded by analog over-the-air TV broadcasters, the frequency is prized by Google and major telecom firms like AT&T for its suitability to long-range wireless Internet access.

Google has shifted much of its attention to cellphones in recent months, having introduced its Android operating system early this month and increasing its development of Google programs just for handsets, such as the iPhone's Google Maps utility. Company chief Eric Schmidt is a member of Apple's Board of Directors.

Motorola's Ed Zander resigns from top spot

The chief executive at Motorola, Ed Zander, resigned from his post on Friday to change pace and spend more time with family, according to his company. He will officially leave the CEO role on January 1st but will stay on as chairman until May.

The shift is said in some reports to be triggered by Motorola's slowly eroding marketshare. Zander led the company during its resurgence with the RAZR flip phone but lost ground after competitors caught up to or eclipsed the device and its successors.

Senior official Greg Brown, who has headed four company divisions in the past, will take over from Zander in the new year.

Analyst claims next iPhone delayed

The release of a second-generation iPhone that was allegedly planned for Spring has been pushed back to summer due to supply issues with the NAND flash memory needed for the device, claims Friedman Billings Ramsey researcher Mehdi Hosseini.

In a new report, the analyst points to a predicted drop in demand for the storage at Samsung's factories during the first half of 2008 that he argues are due to an unexplained delay in the launch of a new iPhone model. This and new iPods could turn the market around in the second half, he says.

Apple has not announced plans for its first iPhone refresh other than a comment by Steve Jobs that 3G may arrive late in 2008.

Findings suggest basic recognition of Windows apps in Leopard

A flaw in a test application is leading WINE project contributor Steven Edwards to suggest that Mac OS X Leopard has at least basic recognition for Windows' Portable Executable format, which forms the backbone of programs in the Microsoft operating system.

When told to run at least one Windows .exe file, the OS tries to call the DLL (Dynamic Link Library) files Windows needs to load the program -- none of which are present, but also have never been called in the past.

The reason for the activity is uncertain and may be a trace of Intel Macs' EFI firmware, which uses a Portable Executable system to manage hardware outside of the OS, Edwards says.

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Wally · 11-30-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Analyst claims next iPhone delayed....The release of a second-generation iPhone that was allegedly planned for Spring has been pushed back to summer due to supply issues with the NAND flash memory needed for the device...Apple has not announced plans for its first iPhone refresh other than a comment by Steve Jobs that 3G may arrive late in 2008.

So how does a theoretical "push back to summer" mean the iPhone has been delayed when a) Apple has not yet offically announced a new iPhone and b) said that a 3G iPhone wouldn't be coming until late 2008?

Do these dipsh!t analysts even do any research into what they are talking about?

bbwi · 11-30-2007, 06:57 PM

How hard would it be for Apple to get these types of apps working on OS X?...

www.thindownload.com

eAi · 11-30-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bbwi

How hard would it be for Apple to get these types of apps working on OS X?...

www.thindownload.com

As hard as any windows app... They're just the same as any windows application is. Although the site states that the applications are virtualized, I doubt very much this is in the same sense as a virtul OS. I'm sure they're just hooking all the application's calls to OS file functions and directing them to their own paths.

The only way they can add a windows is either licensing windows from Microsoft (some chance) or using WINE - and putting 50 or so developers on it for a year or two. I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least some work on this at Apple, but it'd be quite a commitment to achieve this and might bring legal implications for the WINE team. Of course, they could be developing a compatibility layer from scratch, but it's likely they'd use WINE to save themselves considerable time...

anantksundaram · 11-30-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

...... Greg Brown, who has headed four of the company's divisions in the past, will take over from Zander .....

Yeah, that sure gives the shareholders a lot of confidence that Motorola's strategy is going to be radically different, going forward!

Foo2 · 11-30-2007, 08:11 PM

We're 4+ months away from the earliest rational date for an iPhone refresh and some nose-drip of an analyst says demand for NAND flash will be down in the first half of '08 due to a delay in the iPhone refresh. That makes a lot of sense.

Ireland · 11-30-2007, 08:20 PM

i.e. slow news day.

steviet02 · 11-30-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo2

We're 4+ months away from the earliest rational date for an iPhone refresh and some nose-drip of an analyst says demand for NAND flash will be down in the first half of '08 due to a delay in the iPhone refresh. That makes a lot of sense.

Think you need to re-read that paragraph...

Quote:

The release of a second-generation iPhone that was allegedly planned for Spring has been pushed back to summer due to supply issues with the NAND flash memory needed for the device, claims Friedman Billings Ramsey researcher Mehdi Hosseini.

steviet02 · 11-30-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram

Yeah, that sure gives the shareholders a lot of confidence that Motorola's strategy is going to be radically different, going forward!

Do you know Greg Brown? Do you know which departments he headed? What is his business philosophy?

SpamSandwich · 11-30-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by steviet02

Do you know Greg Brown? Do you know which departments he headed? What is his business philosophy?

Brother's name is Charlie.

ThunkDifferent.com · 12-01-2007, 12:44 AM

i am actually a pretty big fan of greg brown, i set his gear up one time before a gig. as we pulled up to the parking lot at the same time we almost crashed into each other. ha. everyone was fine.

that's almost a charlie brown moment with greg brown, funny right?

so, why isn't microsoft wanting to bid, or amazon, or ibm, verizon, etc? all i hear is 700 mhz = google, which is strange, what will they use it all for, adwords takes radio ads now.

digitalclips · 12-01-2007, 07:20 AM

Can someone at Apple Insider explain why so many totally disparate topics are combined in a single report so often? The resulting replies are on all topics and mixed up and harder to follow. Surely if each topic is meritorious enough to be mentioned they could be posted as separate blog entries and then have their own reply sections?

MsNly · 12-01-2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalclips

Can someone at Apple Insider explain why so many totally disparate topics are combined in a single report so often? The resulting replies are on all topics and mixed up and harder to follow. Surely if each topic is meritorious enough to be mentioned they could be posted as separate blog entries and then have their own reply sections?

I agree

ncee · 12-01-2007, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalclips

Can someone at Apple Insider explain why so many totally disparate topics are combined in a single report so often? The resulting replies are on all topics and mixed up and harder to follow. Surely if each topic is meritorious enough to be mentioned they could be posted as separate blog entries and then have their own reply sections?

Yeah … what he said.

Skip

willrob · 12-01-2007, 01:15 PM

Apple is still warehousing NAND chips for at least another year. If the iPhone 2 is going to have a 32G flash chip, then maybe those will be short supply. There's certainly no shortage of 16G chips currently.

Also this analyst it virtually unknown, and has never reported on Apple before. I suspect his firm is shorting Apple stock, so he needs to create FUD.

Foo2 · 12-01-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviet02

Think you need to re-read that paragraph...

Think you need to look at the source of the "information", as well as consider we're not even there yet (spring, let alone winter) and demand for NAND is down.

steviet02 · 12-01-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo2

and demand for NAND is down.

It's the supply that is down not the demand? What are you reading? To be clearer, I read more than AI, so I believe that demand is there, supply is not, based on all the reports of devices coming out with NAND flash included.

anantksundaram · 12-01-2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviet02

Do you know Greg Brown? Do you know which departments he headed? What is his business philosophy?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/01/te...1motorola.html

steviet02 · 12-02-2007, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/01/te...1motorola.html

I thought you were being a sarcastic with your first post...

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*AppleInsider* Kasper's Automated Slave Join Date: Nov 1997 Posts: 6,159	Google 700MHz bid; Zander out at Moto; analyst on next iPhone Google will officially bid for a slice of the 700MHz spectrum that will permit the creation of a new US-wide wireless data network. Meanwhile, Motorola chief Ed Zander is bowing out, and a researcher believes the next iPhone is already delayed. Google pledges bid in FCC auction An extra piece was put into place for Google's mobile puzzle on Friday when the company said it would place at least a $4.6 billion bid for a portion of the 700MHz wireless spectrum up for grabs in a Federal Communications Commission auction to take place in January. The move has been predicted since July, when the company pushed the FCC to institute an open access rule for the winning bidder: any company that owns key parts of the spectrum must allow any device and any software to run on its airspace to prevent the "walled garden" of most US cellphone carriers, which tightly control their services. Soon to be discarded by analog over-the-air TV broadcasters, the frequency is prized by Google and major telecom firms like AT&T for its suitability to long-range wireless Internet access. Google has shifted much of its attention to cellphones in recent months, having introduced its Android operating system early this month and increasing its development of Google programs just for handsets, such as the iPhone's Google Maps utility. Company chief Eric Schmidt is a member of Apple's Board of Directors. Motorola's Ed Zander resigns from top spot The chief executive at Motorola, Ed Zander, resigned from his post on Friday to change pace and spend more time with family, according to his company. He will officially leave the CEO role on January 1st but will stay on as chairman until May. The shift is said in some reports to be triggered by Motorola's slowly eroding marketshare. Zander led the company during its resurgence with the RAZR flip phone but lost ground after competitors caught up to or eclipsed the device and its successors. Senior official Greg Brown, who has headed four company divisions in the past, will take over from Zander in the new year. Analyst claims next iPhone delayed The release of a second-generation iPhone that was allegedly planned for Spring has been pushed back to summer due to supply issues with the NAND flash memory needed for the device, claims Friedman Billings Ramsey researcher Mehdi Hosseini. In a new report, the analyst points to a predicted drop in demand for the storage at Samsung's factories during the first half of 2008 that he argues are due to an unexplained delay in the launch of a new iPhone model. This and new iPods could turn the market around in the second half, he says. Apple has not announced plans for its first iPhone refresh other than a comment by Steve Jobs that 3G may arrive late in 2008. Findings suggest basic recognition of Windows apps in Leopard A flaw in a test application is leading WINE project contributor Steven Edwards to suggest that Mac OS X Leopard has at least basic recognition for Windows' Portable Executable format, which forms the backbone of programs in the Microsoft operating system. When told to run at least one Windows .exe file, the OS tries to call the DLL (Dynamic Link Library) files Windows needs to load the program -- none of which are present, but also have never been called in the past. The reason for the activity is uncertain and may be a trace of Intel Macs' EFI firmware, which uses a Portable Executable system to manage hardware outside of the OS, Edwards says. [ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

11-30-2007, 06:57 PM	#3
bbwi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 652	Thin Computing How hard would it be for Apple to get these types of apps working on OS X?... www.thindownload.com

11-30-2007, 08:11 PM	#6
Foo2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 598	Break out the Ouija boards! We're 4+ months away from the earliest rational date for an iPhone refresh and some nose-drip of an analyst says demand for NAND flash will be down in the first half of '08 due to a delay in the iPhone refresh. That makes a lot of sense.

11-30-2007, 08:20 PM	#7
Ireland Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,561	i.e. slow news day. Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D

12-01-2007, 12:44 AM	#11
ThunkDifferent.com Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 63	Greg Brown, the musician? i am actually a pretty big fan of greg brown, i set his gear up one time before a gig. as we pulled up to the parking lot at the same time we almost crashed into each other. ha. everyone was fine. that's almost a charlie brown moment with greg brown, funny right? so, why isn't microsoft wanting to bid, or amazon, or ibm, verizon, etc? all i hear is 700 mhz = google, which is strange, what will they use it all for, adwords takes radio ads now.

12-01-2007, 07:20 AM	#12
digitalclips Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South West Florida Posts: 1,585	Can someone at Apple Insider explain why so many totally disparate topics are combined in a single report so often? The resulting replies are on all topics and mixed up and harder to follow. Surely if each topic is meritorious enough to be mentioned they could be posted as separate blog entries and then have their own reply sections?

12-01-2007, 01:15 PM	#15
willrob Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 164	Apple is still warehousing NAND chips for at least another year. If the iPhone 2 is going to have a 32G flash chip, then maybe those will be short supply. There's certainly no shortage of 16G chips currently. Also this analyst it virtually unknown, and has never reported on Apple before. I suspect his firm is shorting Apple stock, so he needs to create FUD.

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