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Kasper's Automated Slave
Join Date: Nov 1997
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Parallels, VMware trade shots in MacTech virtualization shootout
A new study from MacTech reveals that both Parallels Desktop and VMware Fusion have their strong points, but that software Mac users should choose depends heavily on Windows and the user's goals -- and that a Mac may outpace a separate PC in a native environment.
The technology magazine notes in its benchmark tests that the older Windows XP operating system runs considerably faster than Vista regardless of the environment, but also that the relative speed of each OS inside a virtual machine can vary widely. Using a MacBook, MacBook Pro, and a Mac Pro tower as its comparison systems, MacTech finds that Parallels Desktop is generally faster than VMware Fusion in common networking and office tasks when using Windows XP. When switching to Vista, however, Fusion handles the performance hit more gracefully and drops by an average of 32 percent across the three systems versus a steeper 85 percent for Parallels. Surprisingly, either can be slightly faster than running Windows through the native Boot Camp mode for some of these particular tasks, the publication says. Parallels earns additional recommendations for those who depend on a tight link between Mac OS X and Windows, though VMware's solution may be better for Windows software that depends on multiple cores. Both have a good selection of virtual appliances and are easy enough to use that selecting a solution can be just a matter of opinion, according to the comparison. Nonetheless, users who don't need the tie-in between the two operating systems are still better-served by running Windows in Boot Camp, MacTech tells readers. And when compared to a reference Fujitsu notebook running a 1.86GHz Core Duo, even the base MacBook was typically faster, making it more feasible to run Windows directly from the Mac itself. "It's faster than a PC anyway," MacTech says. Complete test results, comparison graphs, and further analysis are available at the MacTech site. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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My friend was trying out the latest (official) vmware fusion release yesterday. Overall it seems for winxp2pro, Parallels has a slight edge in snaptasticness™ w00t first post ! ... Leopard and 2gb RAM, Parallels Build 5580+ seems quite decent. Looks like the Parallels team were reasonably well prepared for Leopard.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 75
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Thank god we have both. Without VMWare's competition Parallels wouldn't be where it is today. Anyone know if they (Parallels) still suck in the support department? I haven't had to call upon support yet because my Parallels install just works as supposed.
I'm using Parallels on the Mac on and off, at the moment I'm beta testing Windows software (highly specialized environmental monitoring database) and actually I'm glad I don't have to test it on my work XP boxen. At work I'm running virtual Linuxes under VMWare which is also a rather painless experience. Can't really comment on VMWare under Mac OS. All that I still would really like from either of these products is Mac OS virtualization. I don't say I can't live without that but it would be a big nice-to-have! |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Oh, and one little fact that can't be too well known (I'm quoting the report):
- Vista under Boot Camp averaged 24% slower than XP - Vista under VMware Fusion averaged 32% slower than XP - Vista under Parallels averaged 85% slower than XP Anyways, I'm not touching that resource hog of an operating system with a six foot pole. One more reason to phaze out Windows from any working environment. |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Northern California
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First, I'm running Vista Ultimate under Boot Camp and it runs fast. Secondly, Windows isn't going to be phased out anytime in the forseeable future. Companies simply have to much invested in it from developed applications (Visual Studio), Win servers, Win Clients and Thin Clients. I like both Vista and Mac OS X. They both have their niche.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I made a couple of videos for one of parallels promotional contests on the topic of "why choose?"
check em out and let me know what you think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EBlYb-PY_E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7qxs-YHaGc |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
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More than Windows
I would like to see more comments and stories about running other than Windows on virtualisation software. I use VMware Fusion to run and test several Linux variants in a professional capacity. It's great! I can additionally try out environments like NetWare or even DOS.
The only reason for me to use a Windows instance is because some sadly designed website requires IE. |
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 114
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"It's faster than a PC anyway," MacTech says.
Seriously, this is one of the few things that really annoy me. It *is* a PC you idiot. of *course* a 2 or 2.2 ghz core 2 is faster than a 1.83ghz core 2 running the same os, same ram, and probably even similar chipsets. That's a no-brainer. It's not 'cause it's a mac, it's 'cause it's the *same hardware*, but faster! Seriously, the mac vs. pc thing has got to go. Windows vs. OSX? Sure. But hardware distinction, tenuous to begin with, went out the window completely when Apple shifted to intel chips!
MBP (15, 2.33, 3GB,10.6/win/lin on 250GB)
MP (oct 2.8, 2xGF8800, 10GB. 10.6 on 4x250GB RAID10, Win/Lin on 1x500GB, 2407WFP + 2xSamsung 910t) 16GB Touch also a lot of other systems :-p I met a traveler from an antique land... |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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It's pretty much for most people, going to be some sort of XP4/ VistaSP3 hybrid-thingy. On one side of the coin people getting the last breath out of XP and on the other side Vista improving to be a reasonable option. At this stage most people are better off with XP2Pro IMO. I am waiting to upgrade (back) to Vista for DirectX10 on my PC. When it stops dragging the whole gaming speed down. I may get a PS3 because I am sick of all this hardware upgrading stuff. But overclocking is teh fun and I can tinker with stuff when I like, rather than a "black-box" console. In the meantime, I look forward to some good Unreal Tournament 3 tonight on my WinXP2Pro, DirectX9.0c overclocked PC. ![]() |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: the Great White North
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Agreed - the architecture is so similar now that saying a Mac is faster than a PC is a contradiction, since a Mac now IS a PC (but with OSX). Still, it's good to have something "official" now and then showing that Macs perform very well as PC's (like we didn't know it already).
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 602
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Multi-core, 64-bit VMware FTW!
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VMware also runs X64 software infinitely faster than Parallels, because Parallels only supports the old 32-bit X86 instruction set. Use of the X64 instruction set often yields better performance (up to 25% or more). I would therefore have liked to see benchmarks of 64-bit Vista and 64-bit XP, along with dual core benchmarks. This would give us an idea of how much "horsepower" one can utilize in a virtual machine, as well as the incremental efficiency of adding a second core. Lastly, why wasn't Boot Camp benchmarked using multiple cores? ![]() |
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I am trying now to install Unreal Tournament 3 Server in Parallels on Mac Pro 2.66ghz 4-core 1gb RAM (I know, it is demo Mac Pro that is why so little RAM). In this case I don't mind Parallels just hogging 1 core and 512mb allocated RAM. In this case I like the fact that it only uses 1 core and leaves the other 3 freeeeee for other goodies like OS X Leopard Server NetBoot and NetInstall. Our Mac Pro RAM upgrades have been approved, coming soon hopefully... Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NYC
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This test seems a bit off to me. It seems like they were using VMware 1.0 instead of 1.1
The latest version dramatically improves performance over 1.0 I recently downloaded both demos and found VMware faster than Parallels. . I also found Parallels support to be lacking. I eventually bought VMware over Parallels The summaries for this test seems so confusing. It's weird how they worded most of the test. The best solution is to download both demos and find out which one works best for you. Each has their strengths and weaknesses and one will probably run some obscure program you need better than the other.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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For Windows XP and normal home use there's not a lot of difference between them but I'd recommend Parallels since it's a bit more user friendly and I personally prefer Parallels' cohesive mode over VMWare's Unity mode.
But I've had a string of issues with Parallels when doing non standard stuff, like with peripherals and with Linux. So for that stuff I use VMWare. I'd expect Parallels to capture the home user market and VMWare will capture the professional/enterprise market. Keep in mind that VMWare has been around for ages and is version 1.x only in the Mac world. Still, Parallels was first in the Mac world so getting people to switch is an uphill battle for VMWare. I agree that the competition between the two will be good for consumers. I hope they keep at it. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I've seen other Parallels vs. Fusion reviews that found the load on the host system of an idle guest is quite high for Parallels and almost nil for Fusion. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Clovis, California
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I've only used Parallels, but from people that have used both, and from what I've been reading, Fusion is miles ahead.
I've used VMWare on Windows, for running Linux, and that has usually been a good experience, but truthfully, I'd rather dual boot to get the best performance. As for why people would what to run Vista in a VM (other than testing purposes), I'd stick to a real box or XP. Vista is pretty good, but it needs 2 GB for good performance, and that's were Parallels does fall really short. |
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