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Kasper's Automated Slave
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Steve Jobs to Apple investors: 'hang in there'
In a private communication last week, Apple chief executive Steve Jobs acknowledged the beating his company's shares have taken during this time of economic uncertainty, but remained confident that investors would inevitably recoup their losses and then some.
"Wow... what a remarkable last few days," he wrote in an email to employees, a copy of which was obtained by AppleInsider. "Our stock is being buffeted around by factors a lot larger than ourselves." The Apple co-founder expressed sadness for many of the company's investors who may have seen their investments fall under water, but encouraged those with positions to put the matter into perspective by examining the performance of Apple shares over the past 24 months. "As you can see, we have outperformed many other blue-chip tech companies, including Google," he wrote, tacking on a stock performance comparison chart for illustration. "I continue to believe that our fundamentals - our remarkable people, our clear and focused strategy, our new product pipeline, our 200+ retail stores, our $18 billion of cash in the bank with no debt, etc., will serve us well in the coming months and years." Jobs, whose 5.54 million shares make him the single largest shareholder in Apple behind Fidelity Investments, was among the hardest hit by Wall Street's recent sell-off, with losses in company shares alone totaling an estimated $377.5 million on paper since the start of the new year. In closing out his remarks to employees, Jobs remained upbeat, reiterating confidence that those who remain loyal to their positions in Apple would reap the benefits in the long run. "I believe that investors who stay with us will be rewarded as the market's confidence is restored over time," he wrote. "Hang in there." |
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Hey, anything over and above one's living expenses is just gravy... so Steve's got no complaints.
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"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
—Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. |
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Nice letter, and likely a correct prognostication, but it's a lot of CEO boilerplate.
However, the reference to a "...our new product pipeline..." caught my eye. I am sure that they have lots of interesting stuff up their sleeves! |
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Whoa... Steve has 5.5 million shares. With the stock price drop, is he no longer a billionaire? What will his bud Larry Ellison say?
![]() I'm happy that Steve's giving a pep talk, but actions speak much louder than words. A 3G iPhone soon, more aggressive notebook pricing, filling some holes in the Mac product line-up (the Air may be a bit niche)... all this would do a lot to help AAPL out during these tough times. That said, I'd still definitely hold onto my shares... .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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Location: Houston, Texas
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Disney gave him 7% of the company? Wow. Think about how many mock turtlenecks and pairs of Levis he can buy with that! ![]() .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Charts
He mentions Google yet uses the Yahoo finance charts. So balanced. Is Yahoo still the best for free finance info?
Also I don't see google in the same light as HP and Dell. That's not a good comparison. |
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You'd almost think the stock market as a whole took a downturn, not just Apple. (Crazy thought.)
nagromme
Would you like a treatment? |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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If they don't fix the new Mac Pro's, the disabled Matshita drives, come out with new displays, and get Leopard up to par... then I think it's going to be a very rough year for Apple. Not the time to buy. Look at picking up APPL shares for $86 in Sept.
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-JD
-- "If Apple wasn't so greedy, they would build G6's and give them away!" |
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![]() Boy I really wish this new product pipeline would ramp up though. Only the MBP and Mac Pro are decent just now and the MBP still needs some Penryn in there. I think Apple just needs to pull their finger out. There's just not enough coming out to warrant any company growth. I think that it's a good strategy to even out the updates to ensure some longevity but people are getting tired of waiting. No Geforce 8 series for over a year was just laughable, the enclosure redesigns are welcome but hardly worthy of much interest when they don't offer significant improvements - the opposite in the case of the iMac in fact. I'd say if they really want to impress people, maybe do a similar metallic overhaul on the Macbook as the MBA, either upgrade or replace the Mini already and introduce Penryn across the board within the next 4 weeks. Otherwise it's below 100 you go AAPL and rightly so. |
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buy Buy Buy!!!! :-)
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Hold fast.
In our desire to impose form on the world and our lives we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. -- Colin Gunton |
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Apple shares aren't undervalued now. They are cheap!
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Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
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Nah. The stock got hammered because, above and beyond the US's economic outlook being dismal, the 'Apple growth story' is not what it once was, in investors' eyes. The iPod was flat year over year, and the iPhone is not doing very well in Europe. A 3G iPhone looks to be a ways off. US sales are the lion's share of iPhone sales, but again, the US is likely heading towards recession. Mac sales are a bright spot... they're up, but they could be up much more with some more aggressive pricing and some new products that aren't niche, but rather fill some obvious product lineup holes. More aggressive Mac pricing wouldn't dilute the brand anymore than the iPhone price cut diluted the iPhone's appeal... that'd only happen if Apple started trying to compete in the bargain basement portion of the market, which is certainly not what's being suggested. But it would be refeshing if Apple were more aggressive in the midrange of the computer market. Instead, they do things like getting rid of the $999 iMac, and even their cheapest, bottom-end notebook is still more expensive than the industry average notebook price, i.e. Apple's notebook lineup starts in the upper midrange. Ugh. ![]() How much more of a growth story would the Mac business be if Apple said, "We don't want just the high-end, we want the midrange too... with a vengeance." ![]() Far as the low-end of the computer business goes, who cares, no significant margins there... the eMachines bottom feeders can fight over that. .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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Can't say I disagree with too much of that. ![]() .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] Last edited by TBaggins; 01-28-2008 at 06:18 PM.. |
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Yeah, I know. 'Gave' was used loosely. .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Washington, DC
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I suspect he will still only own three of each.
MacBook Pro C2D 2.4GHz and a battle-scarred PowerBook G4 1.33GHz
"When you gaze long into a dead pixel, the dead pixes gazes also into you" |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I dunno - this supposed SJ e-mail doesn't pass the smell test for me ... too banal and a bit touchy feelie. Fake, for some reason ...
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I know... that's a sign of an addict... |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
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Apple's Stock
Apple just needs to listen to their customers and stop trying to change what we need based on design. The stock fell because nothing happened at Macworld.
1. Macbook Air? How can you sell an ultra portable laptop that can't change batteries on the fly? Plus where's the ethernet jack? If I travel allot those two things are a deal breaker. 2. Apple TV, Great idea, now release it already!!! Plus, add the ability to loop video, that would make it a huge selling point for trade show use. 3. iPOd touch update $20? Lame. Should be free. 4. iPhone updates? Thanks for being free but whatever, nothing we need. We need cut and paste, syncing of notes (I lost mine twice when my 2 phone's had to be replaced) and open it up to developers already, they now how to make software people actually want, and they would save your snobby asses. |
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2. Ummm.. didn't you hear the part where he said it will be released in two weeks? 3. It is free if you buy a new one.. If you already bought one, $20 is reasonable for five additional apps. 4. I agree about needing cut and paste, but this update was really about iTunes movie rentals and making room for new apps from third parties with the upcoming SDK release. |
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The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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The MBA battery lasts 2x as long as other ultraportables. Of course a full size battery in a full size notebook will last longer. But you have to compare Apples to Apples and when you do, you will see that most ultraportable notebooks batteries last appx 2 to 2.5 hours. And I'm not preserving "Market Speak." The MBA is designed to be an ultra portable wireless computer, not a full featured notebook. There are other options available if you don't want a strictly wireless computer. Comparing the specs of an ultra portable to a full size is pointless. They are different products for different purposes. When size and weight are a priority, you have to sacrifice some functionality.. I think that Apple did a fine job of finding a very useable balance of form and function with the Air. |
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Would you guys mind posting his email in its entirety?
Just to see how he actually sent it out. For the curious... |
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Thinkpad X60: 6+ hours with wireless on, 10+ hours with low backlight/no wireless. The MacBook Air is a little weaker on battery life than other ultraportables. |
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The Sony as reviewed also has a 32GB flash drive.
party's over
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Not exactly... the MB Air is designed to be Apple's 'better alternative' to an ultraportable, it is not a true ultraportable itself. If it were intended to be a true ultraportable, it wouldn't have the same footprint as a regular MacBook, which it does. Another point on portability: Sure, there must be some afterthought doohickey you can buy which will let you plug into an Ethernet port (USB port adapter), but then that becomes one more thing to carry around, doesn't it? Not to mention the carry along external optical drive. Perhaps you don't watch DVDs on long train or plane rides, but I sure do. At some point, there's too many things to carry along to make up for insufficient built-in functionality, and your 'portable' really isn't, anymore. ![]() I really like the MB Air, but for its gorgeous design more than anything else. If I were a true day-in, day-out road warrior, I'd probably go with something else. .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] Last edited by TBaggins; 01-28-2008 at 09:54 PM.. |
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i'd like to see you put your money where your mouth is and go short aapl all the way down to $86, where you can reverse your position as it climbs back up.
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Augh. AAPL is down to $129 in after-hours trading. Why the frak didn't I sell at $200??
![]() Some of us are long-term by strategy. I'm long-term by necessity now. ![]() .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] |
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The USB adapter is another device to carry around but let's be honest a candybar weighs more. The optical drive is another personal thing. Frankly I don't use the optical drive on my PC much so I probably wouldn't ante up for the external drive. |
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I love Apple, but I'm with the folks who are pessimistic as to AAPL over the next year. I've been buying Apple computers since the 80's, and, well, they don't sell any desktop or laptop computers I want right now. At all. I realize there's a lot of people out there buying Apple products, and that's great, but I can't invest in a company whose products I no longer understand the appeal of. I like their iPod lineup, but I buy one of those every 2-3 years, and that's not enough to sustain the current valuation let alone grow it.
Now, my mind might change significantly if I see a nice Touch SDK next month and maybe a new model on the horizon. I've been amazed at how useful the darn thing is in the month I've owned it, and I could see the Touch and iPhone becoming a significant computing platform over the next year. But I don't have any confidence that Apple will shed the Not Invented Here syndrome and really do what's best with the SDK, and I suspect they'll just shovel more of the same developer crap with fancy marketing tied to it. The Mac's development environment leaves a LOT to be desired, and so I'm skeptical they'll do the iPod one right. (Why couldn't they have just adopted Java and had an instant army of already-trained developers and a top-notch free IDE? This is the sort of thing Java was DESIGNED for!) |
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That is indeed the bet that Apple is making. We'll see if they're right. ![]() Short-term, the launch orders will be great. But long-term, the worry is that the MBA will have only niche sales. .
The iPhone 3GS-
Cut-copy-paste, MMS, landscape keyboard, video-recording, voice-calling, and more... FINALLY To the 'We Didn't Need It' Crowd/Apple Apologista Squad™ : Wrong again, lol Thanks for listening to your users, Apple. =] Last edited by TBaggins; 01-28-2008 at 10:28 PM.. |
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I find a lot of pessimism coming from Apple fans who someone have been fooled into thinking that life's been rosy for PC owners. I look forward to the day I can get rid of the junky old PCs I have at home. I entertain thoughts of building another PC for fun but then reality hits. Why? Vista isn't all that sexy and frankly I'd rather virtualize.
I'm not too happy with the Mac Pro starting price. The iMac is a simplistic and handsome system but I'd be more happy if it eschewed mobile parts at the high end. I'm looking forward to getting a Macbook. I'd love for the "black tax" to go away. I'm not using it for gaming so an X3100 graphics system is fine. I prefer the 13.3 size. I'm actually in a situation where I have plenty of room (sadly not enough cash) to evolve my Mac setup. This years purchase will certainly bring a new Ipod in and a Apple TV. I'd love an iPhone but my job currently will only expense a Blackberry so hopefully by the end of my 2yr contract I'll be able to segue into a iPhone 3G with proper Exchange support. By and large the problem right now with Apple pertains to blatant attempts by the media Empires to hobble Apple's success in music and video downloads. Apple cannot lose itself here. It's not their content and thus they will not be able to manufacture huge profits like homegrown content. In essence Apple's lack of ownership prevents them from "printing money" like they do with OS X. Hopefully Apple delivers a unified iPhone SDK that allows for easy creation of iPhone and Touch apps. Lately Apple has been fine with developer tools. I don't see them working overtime to thwart the fringe iPhone developers jailbreaking the phones. The Tech market is taking a beating and you're only as good as your last deal on Wall Street. By the end of the year I think we'll acknowledge that we had a recession yet the hope is that positive momentum is going to carry forward into 2009. |
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