O2 quarter boosted by iPhone; PayPal Safari warning; iPhoto 7.1.3

[AppleInsider]

While its Irish division is just receiving the iPhone, O2 UK said on Thursday that the iPhone led its best-ever quarter at the end of 2007. Also, PayPal cautions users to avoid visiting its site with Safari, and Apple has issued an iPhoto fix.

O2 UK's Q4 2007 buoyed by iPhone

Britain's primary cellphone carrier, O2, reported on Thursday that the iPhone was one of the primary drivers of its success in the fourth quarter of 2007.

Though still refusing to confirm or deny reported sales numbers for the specific Apple device, the provider said the 483,000 net customers it picked up during the three-month span was the most ever for the company. About 276,000 of these had signed a contract and included the iPhone customers in their ranks, as the handset requires an 18-month agreement.

O2 also boasted that the device was the "fastest selling device that [it has] ever had" in the country and that the average revenue per user is about 30 percent higher than for a typical contracted subscriber.

About 60 percent of all iPhone users have come from other providers, and the iPhone has had the highest satisfaction levels yet of any O2 device with a record low return rate, the company said.

PayPal issues Safari security warning

Apple's primary web browser is the last one any PayPal customer should use when visiting the payment site, said a new warning from the company's chief info security officer, Michael Barrett.

The technology expert cautioned that, of all the major browsers, only Safari lacks two clear anti-phishing measures. There is no filter to block or warn users of fake websites that may use a PayPal-like website address to scam users, he warned.

Safari also lacks a recent development known as an Extended Validation (EV) certificate. It turns the address bar green when visiting trusted sites that use the certificate, letting them know that the site is authentic.

While only Internet Explorer 7 currently uses EV, all browsers except Safari, including Firefox and Opera, at least support a basic filter and are likely to receive EV soon. The transactions themselves on Safari are said to be secure but may be deceptive if a phishing scam forges a security certificate.

"Safari has got nothing in terms of security support, only SSL [Secure Sockets Layer encryption], that's it," Barrett said.

iPhoto 7.1.3

Lastly, Apple has issued a minor patch for its latest version of iPhoto.

Version 7.1.3 (16.9MB) resolves issues with creating cards as well as wire-bound photo books.

[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

[solipsism]

Barrett has a valid point about Safari. I'm quite surprised Safari wasn't one of the first browsers to detect phishing.

[crees!]

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

PayPal issues Safari security warning

Apple's primary web browser is the last one any PayPal customer should use when visiting the payment site, said a new warning from the company's chief info security officer, Michael Barrett.

The technology expert cautioned that, of all the major browsers, only Safari lacks two clear anti-phishing measures. There is no filter to block or warn users of fake websites that may use a PayPal-like website address to scam users, he warned.

Safari also lacks a recent development known as an Extended Validation (EV) certificate. It turns the address bar green when visiting trusted sites that use the certificate, letting them know that the site is authentic.

While only Internet Explorer 7 currently uses EV, all browsers except Safari, including Firefox and Opera, at least support a basic filter and are likely to receive EV soon. The transactions themselves on Safari are said to be secure but may be deceptive if a phishing scam forges a security certificate.

"Safari has got nothing in terms of security support, only SSL [Secure Sockets Layer encryption], that's it," Barrett said.

One word. 1Password. \m/

[mklos]

I thought Safari 3 was supposed to have Phishing anti measures in it? Was this a killed feature?

[RealtorBen]

On the Safari & PayPal issue. Safari has a great unintentional built in security measure. The keychain. If I go to paypal, the keychain auto-populates the email and password field.

If I click on a phishing link in an email, then once the page loads, my username and password are not loaded. If I try typing the first letter of my username and it doesn't load, that's a sure sign something is wrong.

However, I never get that far. Common sense tells me never to click on a link in an email from a financial institution. If I do, then I always check to make sure it's the banks website.

A good way to test, enter any old username and password you want and hit submit. If it accept it...DING, it's a phishing site.

Common sense is all you really need. All Mac users have it. Windows users need all the extra protection.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by mklos

I thought Safari 3 was supposed to have Phishing anti measures in it? Was this a killed feature?

You are correct.

• http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._3_builds.html

I'm trying to find a valid phoshing website right now to test it.
edit: This feature did not make it into the final release. Apple must have done that up-sell us Time Capsule.

[h228]

The linked news article makes it sound like you can't use EV certificates with Safari, but you can. Safari doesn't give you the green bar, but you can add them to Keychain just like any other certificate.

As far as phishing warnings, they are no substitute for user awareness. Thieves will always find a way around automated warnings.

When it comes to sites related to money or identity, know the sites you visit!

[rain]

Not cool.
More and more i'm coming across sites that are not supported by Safari. One would think that 'internet' accessibility and function would be high priority.

Apple needs to drop all this iPhone/TV crap and focus on their core business. I started looking at windoze box's because Apple has no solid offerings for visual creative professionals. Mac Pro's are a 50/50 gamble that they will be DOA out of the box, and I can't afford the down time of sending machines back 2, 3, 4 times like people are reporting on xlr8 and apple discussion boards.
Where are the new displays? Would be nice to bundle applecare with a new display if one does decide to gamble with a new Mac Pro.
Also of mention, the New Mac Pro's are quite outdated with their hardware offerings already.

Apple seems to be focused on it's appliance business so feverishly, that it's neglected quality control on Leopard, Safari and standard computer line of iMacs and towers.
I mean seriously, it's pretty damn tough to design a marketing campaign on an iPhone.
What the hell gives?
They had better smarten up or their 'Switch' campaign is going to take on a whole new meaning.

If you want to know how I'm really feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

[rtdunham]

50 MB to fix a card & spiral-bound book problem? doesn't make sense. sloppy coding? am i missing something? like, does the 50MB install while 49MB are deleted from earlier code? Or....?

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by rain

More and more i'm coming across sites that are not supported by Safari. One would think that 'internet' accessibility and function would be high priority.

Having Safari function like IE would exacerbate the issues we already have, not make them better. Since Firefox has come along there are more sites that try to abide by internet standards, and WebKit is the most compliant and the fastest, too. What are these sites you get access? I havnent seen any in a very long time, sans those that require ActiveX.

Apple needs to drop all this iPhone/TV crap and focus on their core business.

Those are part of their core business and they use OS X at their core.

I started looking at windoze box's because Apple has no solid offerings for visual creative professionals.

I disagree but that is your opinion. I also think Windows has some great options in that area too.

Mac Pro's are a 50/50 gamble that they will be DOA out of the box, and I can't afford the down time of sending machines back 2, 3, 4 times like people are reporting on xlr8 and apple discussion boards.

This is a fact among your experience or are you claiming that 50% of all Mac Pros won't boot up? If the former, then you've had some bad luck; if the latter, that is just more of your FUD. I'm on my 4th AppleTV but that doesn't mean that they have a 75% failure rate.

Also of mention, the New Mac Pro's are quite outdated with their hardware offerings already.

Oh yeah? They were updated on 08-JAN-2008 with Xeons that I can't even find on Dell or HP's site. I haven't checked others.

Apple seems to be focused on it's appliance business so feverishly, that it's neglected quality control on Leopard, Safari and standard computer line of iMacs and towers.

The inclusion of "seems" makes it your opinion. You are entitled to that. I think they have the same issues they've always had but their offerings are quite competent.

I mean seriously, it's pretty damn tough to design a marketing campaign on an iPhone.

The marketing in the UI. It's quite impressive and no other product comes close to the experience.

[Abster2core]

Rain…

Sorry man, but looking through your previous posts, it is obvious that you shouldn't be take serious. Sure everybody has a right to voice their opinion. However, all of yours are highly sided against everything about Apple and its products no matter what is the topic of discussion.

Perhaps you have been spending too much time outside in your name. (Vancouver can do that to you)

My apologies folks for wasting your time as well as mine on this.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by Abster2core

My apologies folks for wasting your time as well as mine on this.

Now you tell us!

[rain]

Hmmmm... I guess I'm just at the realization that i've been drunk on the koolaid too long.

Regarding the Mac Pro issue. When I was getting my G5 and laptop looked at, at our largest retailer out here, I asked a service tech friend how many new Mac Pro's had come back... he said about half.

When I get my new Mac Pro in the next week or two... and if it works perfectly like it should, solving most of my grief... I'll be in better spirits.
I was looking at Alienware.com and some of their sick offerings... 4 core extreme processors running at 4ghz (factory overclocked). Geez.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by rain

When I get my new Mac Pro in the next week or two... and if it works perfectly like it should, solving most of my grief... I'll be in better spirits.
I was looking at Alienware.com and some of their sick offerings... 4 core extreme processors running at 4ghz (factory overclocked). Geez.

If you are having issues then I understand your concern. All machines are prone to issues and the more complex they are the more likely there is for something to go wrong.

As for the Alienware machine. doesn't that cost about double the base model Mac Pro? And that has 2 x 2.8GHz Xeon "Harpertown" Penryn w/ 1600MHz FSB compared to the single over-clocked "Yorkfield" with only a 1333MHz FSB.

The RAM Alienware offers is 1333MHz low latency RAM. Since the Xeon's require FB-DIMMS that wouldn't a good fit for the Alienware machines.

They seem to focus of gaming machines. I wouldn't ever use an overlocked machine as a workstation, but that may be some old school thinking on my part.

[Gatesbasher]

Originally Posted by rain

Not cool.
More and more i'm coming across sites that are not supported by Safari.

Be very, very careful what you wish for. I have a couple of e-mail accounts that "upgraded" their front pages and kept telling me that for "a better experience" I should switch to a compatible browser, i.e. Firefox 1.5 or later. I was very careful not to use Firefox because I didn't want a f***ing "experience," I just wanted to get my e-mail! Well, now they both work with Safari and take f...o...r...e...v...e...r to load. Anybody know a less compatible browser?

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by Gatesbasher

Be very, very careful what you wish for. I have a couple of e-mail accounts that "upgraded" their front pages and kept telling me that for "a better experience" I should switch to a compatible browser, i.e. Firefox 1.5 or later. I was very careful not to use Firefox because I didn't want a f***ing "experience," I just wanted to get my e-mail! Well, now they both work with Safari and take f...o...r...e...v...e...r to load. Anybody know a less compatible browser?

IE for Mac and Lynx are a couple. Seriously though, what sites are slow to load with Safari?

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Gatesbasher

Be very, very careful what you wish for. I have a couple of e-mail accounts that "upgraded" their front pages and kept telling me that for "a better experience" I should switch to a compatible browser, i.e. Firefox 1.5 or later. I was very careful not to use Firefox because I didn't want a f***ing "experience," I just wanted to get my e-mail! Well, now they both work with Safari and take f...o...r...e...v...e...r to load. Anybody know a less compatible browser?

They are most likely slow because the sites are not actually compliant. Or worse, some sites actively discriminate. WebKit is built expressly to standards, not BS vendor or project specific APIs that web-coders are "encouraged" to use for the "better experience". Safari obviously isn't perfect, but in nearly every situation I have come across, the problem was one where the site coders went out of their way to not follow a standard, and used some restricted proprietary, licensed code, or coded specifically to MSs IE-compatible HTML.

It sucks a little to be on that end, but the iPhone/iTouch wave of web browsers will be a serious wakeup for site coders over the next couple years. The traffic hits generated from WebKit on a mobile platform will drive sites to code standards compliant sites because the traffic analysis will demand it. Side benefit is Safari on macs get the benefit since WebKit is WebKit on both platforms.

[bsenka]

When I hover over a link in Safari, the real address of that link shows up in the status bar. Identifies phishers right away.

Besides, the bottom line is, you should never rely on any built in security measure. Assume that a message sent by a financial institution or the like is false until you know otherwise. Don't click the link, open a new window and manually type the proper URL.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by Hiro

It sucks a little to be on that end, but the iPhone/iTouch wave of web browsers will be a serious wakeup for site coders over the next couple years. The traffic hits generated from WebKit on a mobile platform will drive sites to code standards compliant sites because the traffic analysis will demand it. Side benefit is Safari on macs get the benefit since WebKit is WebKit on both platforms.

I believe WebKit is a more lightweight and scabable browser, too, which will certainly help as more MIDs come on the market. With Android, Some Nokia and the iPhone running WebKit coders will have no choice but to abide. I don't foresee MS giving up majority share anytime soon but I do foresee IE no longer being the "keystone' browser.

[rain]

Originally Posted by solipsism

If you are having issues then I understand your concern. All machines are prone to issues and the more complex they are the more likely there is for something to go wrong.

I'm still hoping for Commodore to release a new computer. *fingers crossed*

I guess my point is, that it's pretty hard to read an article about Apple these days that doesn't address the sudden drop in quality, or 'quality slipping', or 'growing pains with quality'.
My own experience, and I'll add that i've been computing with Apple for over 20 years now, is that quality assurance has gone out the window in the last 3 -4 years.

Now, we can argue that it's a cause of unprecedented growth, however, we can't forget that we are paying a premium for supposed superior products, and there should be no issues. Or at least very very few.

What I see happening is Apple taking on a similar approach to quality as Ford or GM, and that's the last thing I want to see. Where an atmosphere of quantity pushes aside quality, and the result is a stigma that is near impossible to undo.
I believe the iPod was the start of Apple's shift.

I bleed the company, have a vested interest, and want them to succeed, but they got to get back on the quality track. I don't want to have to learn Japanese.

It's time for them to put some of their brightest guys back on the "hub" as SJ once said. This insane push to be leaders in content distribution might be over extending the talent pool. Spreading themselves a bit thin.
It's harder to manage a successful business then it is a failing one.

[fraklinc]

Originally Posted by rain

Hmmmm... I guess I'm just at the realization that i've been drunk on the koolaid too long.

Regarding the Mac Pro issue. When I was getting my G5 and laptop looked at, at our largest retailer out here, I asked a service tech friend how many new Mac Pro's had come back... he said about half.

When I get my new Mac Pro in the next week or two... and if it works perfectly like it should, solving most of my grief... I'll be in better spirits.
I was looking at Alienware.com and some of their sick offerings... 4 core extreme processors running at 4ghz (factory overclocked). Geez.

Dude maybe you should switch back to windows, am pretty sure that alienware with 4 core extreme processors running at 4ghz, that you been looking at, will make a real good botnet zombie

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by rain

II guess my point is, that it's pretty hard to read an article about Apple these days that doesn't address the sudden drop in quality, or 'quality slipping', or 'growing pains with quality'.

That is a fear and many a good company has ruined its customer service and collapsed its quality control from growing too big, too quickly. And Apple has also branched out in many new areas over the past decade. Despite that, I think Apple is handling it very well, but there is certainly room for improvements.

Now that the major work on the two processor platforms are taken care of (x86 and ARM) can we expect Apple to put more effort into other areas that need tending? (rhetorical)

[Gatesbasher]

@ solipsism & hiro:

The two bad ones are mail.com and hotmail; of course, I know exactly what the problem is with hotmail, and I never really use it anyway, I just exaggerate for effect!

Make no mistake, many of these overly complicated (and Flash) pages are much, much slower in Firefox, just as is everything else. I use Safari 99.9% of the time, and I know when they talk about "compatible" browsers they mean "incompatible our way," and it makes me spit nails! I want a standards-compliance revolution that will sweep them all into the dustbin of history. Apple started it with Safari, and that's why I support it; plus it's fast, takes 3 seconds to load instead of a minute and a half like Firefox, it doesn't scroll in quarter-screen jerks (again, like Firefox,) and it looks good. (Just not as good since Leopard's step backward in appearance.) As far as phishing goes, I don't think there's any software substitute for intelligence.

(IE reminds me of Ford's famous tapered bolt heads that a regular socket would hop off of. They were supposed to bring out a line of special wrenches for them, but they never got around to it....)

[TenoBell]

I started looking at windoze box's because Apple has no solid offerings for visual creative professionals.

Visual creative professionals is a pretty broad statement. What visual profession are you in.

Its difficult to understand what you are talking about considering how Final Cut Pro dominates the editing world. Even with Apples small marketshare 40% of Adobe professional products and 60% of Avid professional products are sold to Mac users.

[capiendo]

Originally Posted by solipsism

You are correct.

• http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._3_builds.html

I'm trying to find a valid phoshing website right now to test it.
edit: This feature did not make it into the final release. Apple must have done that up-sell us Time Capsule.

even tho the anti-phishing thing didn't make the final release, the feature resources are still there. right-click the Safari app and "Show Package Contents" and you'll find the security banner background (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/SecurityBannerBackground.tiff) and a nib file (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/SecurityBanner.nib).

maybe there's a way to re-enable it by tweaking a plist, like there is for the Safari debug menu. anybody?

oh, and Google has a phishing test page (Firefox detects it) here...

[rain]

Originally Posted by fraklinc

Dude maybe you should switch back to windows, am pretty sure that alienware with 4 core extreme processors running at 4ghz, that you been looking at, will make a real good botnet zombie

I've never been a windows guy, so it's pretty hard to switch back.
I'm just grumpy cuz my G5 died and Apple wants a thousand bucks to replace 1 processor. So I rolled it into a Mac Pro which came DOA. And now I'm trying to crank out huge projects on a 1ghz powerbook.

If I switched to windoze, i'd give my wife a heart attack. So no botnet zombie for me.
I was just looking to see what the other world was doing. The Alienware box's look pretty freaky deaky with the glowing lights n all. I should hook up some crazy lights in my G5... make it a real cool disco lamp or something... make use of it somehow.

[jragosta]

Originally Posted by solipsism

Barrett has a valid point about Safari. I'm quite surprised Safari wasn't one of the first browsers to detect phishing.

Perhaps there's a point - but he's blown it way out of proportion. If you're stupid enough to click on a 'paypal' link in an email, you could get burned. But for people who go directly to Paypal's site from Safari, there's no danger.

[jragosta]

Originally Posted by rain

guess my point is, that it's pretty hard to read an article about Apple these days that doesn't address the sudden drop in quality, or 'quality slipping', or 'growing pains with quality'.

ROTFLMAO.

You mean the Consumer Reports article which places Apple's quality at the top of the heap? Or maybe you mean the PC World article which says that Apple's quality is better than anyone else out there.

Note that both of those articles are based on actual consumer experience - not FUD from some Rainman.

I'm just curious what motivates someone like you to come to a Mac site to mindlessly bash a product with crap like that that you've pull out of your butt. Do you own Microsoft stock or something?

[hezekiahb]

Originally Posted by rain

Not cool.
More and more i'm coming across sites that are not supported by Safari. One would think that 'internet' accessibility and function would be high priority.

Apple needs to drop all this iPhone/TV crap and focus on their core business. I started looking at windoze box's because Apple has no solid offerings for visual creative professionals. Mac Pro's are a 50/50 gamble that they will be DOA out of the box, and I can't afford the down time of sending machines back 2, 3, 4 times like people are reporting on xlr8 and apple discussion boards.
Where are the new displays? Would be nice to bundle applecare with a new display if one does decide to gamble with a new Mac Pro.
Also of mention, the New Mac Pro's are quite outdated with their hardware offerings already.

Apple seems to be focused on it's appliance business so feverishly, that it's neglected quality control on Leopard, Safari and standard computer line of iMacs and towers.
I mean seriously, it's pretty damn tough to design a marketing campaign on an iPhone.
What the hell gives?
They had better smarten up or their 'Switch' campaign is going to take on a whole new meaning.

If you want to know how I'm really feeling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

Funny, I work on Macs for our IT department & they are a breeze. Our print shop was using Macs some years back & was forced to switch to PCs running all their graphics suites & they have had nothing but problems. Our communications department is all Macs & they are the happiest bunch you'd ever meet, except the guy that has to deal with the (windows only) scala system. No DOA Macs & they've been upgrading to the new Intels (had PPC for a long while).

You get peeved about a few issues you have & suddenly Apple is this & does that, but there is no real merit behind your accusations.

Look, if you've had some bad experiences that is a shame, but it isn't because Apple is coming up short it is because all computer manufacturing has a margin of error & you happened to receive that margin.

Maybe you are right though, maybe you should move to Windows & start wining on their forums instead of ours. Next time you want to go ranting at least have some solid data to back your claims.

[hezekiahb]

Originally Posted by rain

I've never been a windows guy, so it's pretty hard to switch back.
I'm just grumpy cuz my G5 died and Apple wants a thousand bucks to replace 1 processor. So I rolled it into a Mac Pro which came DOA. And now I'm trying to crank out huge projects on a 1ghz powerbook.

If I switched to windoze, i'd give my wife a heart attack. So no botnet zombie for me.
I was just looking to see what the other world was doing. The Alienware box's look pretty freaky deaky with the glowing lights n all. I should hook up some crazy lights in my G5... make it a real cool disco lamp or something... make use of it somehow.

I should have read this before posting.

Maybe it will make you feel better to know a few things about the differences, cause "raw specs" can be deceiving vs performance.

1) Alienware is built around 3D gaming, not 3D modeling or graphics/video design.
2) A huge part of the Macs having an advantage is the software & OS.
3) Dell owns Alienware (I guess this one only helps if you hate Dell)
4) PPC Macs cost a lot to repair because there are very few MB manufacturers for them. That isn't really Apple's fault.
5) most benchmarks test on software specifically designed to take advantage of Direct 3D. Most video card manufacturers build around Direct3D with Open GL as an afterthought. As Macs have grown this is shifting dramatically.

Sorry I blasted you before, being in IT wears at you cause people are always throwing around blame when in the end it turns out to be a user issue.

[wilco]

Originally Posted by solipsism

I'm on my 4th AppleTV but that doesn't mean that they have a 75% failure rate.

[Hattig]

Originally Posted by solipsism

Barrett has a valid point about Safari. I'm quite surprised Safari wasn't one of the first browsers to detect phishing.

Yeah, a phishing filter sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Regarding the EV certificates, these are an industry-wide scam instigated by that most vile company Verisign, and copied elsewhere.

It used to be that normal certificates were strongly validated. Instead what has happened is that EV certificates have the same level of validation, but they charge over $1000 a year for them. The obvious issue being that the standard certificates now must have less validation, and are thus made far less worthwhile for anyone using them.

There's nothing stopping a web browser from turning the URL bar green (or however it chooses to implement EV certificates) for standard certificates as well. Maybe it could be a paler green, or yellow.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by wilco

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Thanks Wilco, but I'm fine with electronics going bad. Inconvenient, but not upsettting.

Originally Posted by jragosta

You mean the Consumer Reports article which places Apple's quality at the top of the heap? Or maybe you mean the PC World article which says that Apple's quality is better than anyone else out there.

Note that both of those articles are based on actual consumer experience - not FUD from some Rainman.

I much prefer the the more recent switchers like Anand Shimpi that use a MBP, MBA and Mac Pro. Being a straight up hardware guy it's funny to read the forum posters bitching about his drinking of the "Kool-Aid".

Originally Posted by jragosta

Perhaps there's a point - but he's blown it way out of proportion. If you're stupid enough to click on a 'paypal' link in an email, you could get burned. But for people who go directly to Paypal's site from Safari, there's no danger.

Stupid, no. Ignorant, yes. I have plenty of family members that still don't understand that address in their email may not be the address that it will take you. Not being used to cyber-fraud for so many years of their life they very well, may not second guess a well made phishing website or email. While education is important, that doesn't mean she take extra precautions for the less tech savvy.

[meelash]

Seriously, just don't click on links in emails with weird URL's. Look at the address bar and read the address.

I think I'll stick with Safari and it's awesome page-searching, history and bookmark searching, thanks....

[Adjei]

I thought the iphone was failing to meet expectations in the UK.

[mstone]

Originally Posted by rain

I started looking at windoze box's because Apple has no solid offerings for visual creative professionals.

Huh? Apple makes Final Cut Pro and Motion. Those seem to appeal to visual creative pros.

Maybe not as much as some of Microsoft's offering like MS Publisher and Ms Paint. Because those are some serious kick ass creative applications.

But for either Windows or Mac, there are plenty of great software titles for creative work. Have you heard of Adobe Creative Suite?

[jragosta]

Originally Posted by rain

Apple seems to be focused on it's appliance business so feverishly, that it's neglected quality control on Leopard, Safari and standard computer line of iMacs and towers.

I'm just wondering when you're going to come up with evidence to back your absurd claims. Or else explain why we should believe your unfounded assertions rather than the studies done by virtually everyone in the industry which say that Apple has the best quality of anyone.

[loloeroket]

Sounds plain stupid people once again. Well maybe safari is made for smart people who can figure out in few seconds that the link they see is different from the real link. Probably a 5th grader can see that.

Now about quality, I am sorry for the one who want Apple to decline but my own experience is exactly the opposite. I am handling several servers, well more than 50, and I am replacing as much as I can the Dell by Xserve. So far I never had to dial AppleCare Premium support we take for all Xserve, when I had to call Dell for each server I take care of, and some more than once.

Not only you can appreciate Apple beautiful design inside and outside, hard and soft. Not to mention Ugly Dell plastic and ugly design.

Regarding some of the Laptop and Desktop, I come close to, it has been a tremendous experience so far.

Written from my MacBook Pro 17"'

[MarkAllan]

Originally Posted by capiendo

even tho the anti-phishing thing didn't make the final release, the feature resources are still there. right-click the Safari app and "Show Package Contents" and you'll find the security banner background (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/SecurityBannerBackground.tiff) and a nib file (/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/SecurityBanner.nib).

maybe there's a way to re-enable it by tweaking a plist, like there is for the Safari debug menu. anybody?

Possibly. If you look at the strings inside the Safari application itself, you'll see something called 'antiPhishingEnabled'. Unfortunately, tweaking the plist to contain this name with either a boolean, string or integer value doesn't appear to make any difference.

I really can't understand why Apple pulled the feature. Maybe they didn't want to take up the position of people relying on Apple for web security, which makes a lot of sense actually. If you think about it, when you've got a security feature on which you feel you can rely, you tend to get complacent and it won't be long before people start to equate "no warning" with "definitely safe website", whereas "no warning" should really only mean "potentially safe website".

If you have no such feature, then all websites should be treated as potentially unsafe. This approach does rely on educating the user to recognise fraudulent sites though, which is easier said than done.