Mexican iPhone, iTunes June rumor; Wall Street retail; Boston unveiled

[AppleInsider]

Mexicans will get an iTunes Store to match the iPhone for a launch next month, according to one report. Also, the same may be true for Brazil; Apple may be close to securing its Wall Street store; and Apple has taken the wraps from its Boston store.

iPhone, iTunes said to launch in tandem for Mexico

Mexico will receive more from Apple than just the iPhone this year, says a new report from Mundo Mac.

Officials in Apple Mexico's office as well as its Spanish-language Miami call center allegedly claim that the iTunes Store for Mexico will launch alongside the iPhone in June and will be accompanied by support for purchasing prints and books through iPhoto.

The iTunes service is said to be all but necessary for the iPhone's launch in the North American country, as the phone's activation is normally tied to its owner's iTunes account.

An Apple retail store in Monterrey is also rumored to launch at the same time.

While no confirmations of Apple's plans are expected until June 9th at the earliest, the electronics giant has been particularly active in Mexico, opening its online store for the nation late last year.

Wall Street Apple store deal near completion?

Lending support to early reports of Apple scouting locations near the New York Stock Exchange, the New York Post now claims that Apple is in "serious" talks for one of the identified locations.

The Mac maker is reportedly close to securing rights to 23 Wall Street, a large 12,500 square-foot building currently owned by Africa-Israel but left vacant aside from a roof terrace for neighboring 15 Broad Street.

Aside from its prime location at New York City's financial core, the building has more history than nearly any Apple retail outlet has had to date. The building was built to be JP Morgan's main office in 1914 but was infamous as the backdrop for the 1920 Wall Street Bombing, which killed 38 people and damaged its walls -- scars of which were deliberately left in place and are still visible today.

Neither Africa-Israel nor Apple's representing real estate firm, RFK, have commented on the rumored move.

Boston Apple store unveiled

Just a day before its official opening, Apple's Boston retail store has been revealed to the public.

The 815 Boylston Street store is unusual among Apple stores for having a glass facade but a clearly visible metal frame immediately behind it.

As with a number of flagship locations, the three-floor interior also centers around a glass spiral staircase. Each floor is dedicated to a different market, according to a report by Gizmodo: the base floor serves the "important" Mac customers, the second floor serves iPhone and iPod customers, and the third floor is used for both service as well as workshops.

Plant life on the roof and rainwater collection will help sustain the building through natural means when it opens on Thursday at 6PM.

Images are courtesy of Gizmodo.

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[eAi]

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Plant life on the roof and rainwater collection will help sustain the building through natural means when it opens on Thursday at 6PM.

Will the plant life on the roof not help sustain it before or after it opens?

[boyleheights]

Since when is Mexico considered a Central American country?

[Dogcow]

The roof at the Boston store looks really cool (see link for pic). I wish I could go out there, sit on the grass and work on a MacBook. Can't wait to see the store in person tomorrow.

[acvball92]

Originally Posted by boyleheights

Since when is Mexico considered a Central American country?

It's always been a Central American Country, where have you been? What you think its in South America?

[jcgnu]

Originally Posted by acvball92

It's always been a Central American Country, where have you been? What you think its in South America?

Dude....

"The United Mexican States[2] (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos (help·info)), or commonly Mexico (IPA: /ˈmɛksɪkoʊ/) (Spanish: México (help·info) Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmexiko]), is a federal constitutional republic in NORTH AMERICA"


So many people who don't know... Some even consider it South America!! Ever heard of NAFTA?? NORTH AMERICA Free Trade Agreement???

[Dogcow]

Mexico is in North America, unless that's changed since elementary school...

[SpamSandwich]

The 815 Boylston Street store is unusual among Apple stores for having a glass facade but a clearly visible metal frame immediately behind it.

It's unusual for an Apple Store, but not unusual for a building in the Boston area. Something about preserving the original architecture in the building code there, I'd gamble.

[walshbj]

That's a fine looking building. I'm stuck with an Apple Store in a mall called, of all things, Southpark.

[pervas]

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Apple hints at iPhone, iTunes Brazil

...

Sousa declines to confirm when the territory will receive the iPhone, but claims that Apple will launch an iPhone on June 11th and leaves the door open to interpretation as to what follows.

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I can't believe I was the first to see the article's date! The guy was referring to iPhone's launch date, last year.

Helvécio

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by Dogcow

Mexico is in North America, unless that's changed since elementary school...

ALL Central American countries are a part of North America.

[Tofino]

Originally Posted by solipsism

ALL Central American countries are a part of North America.

and yet... mexico is NOT considered Central America...

[Bageljoey]

Originally Posted by solipsism

ALL Central American countries are a part of North America.

This is far from certain. There are many different ways to define regions--geological, geographical, political, economic, cultural... to name a few. Certainly, I don't remember anyone in Central America who considered themselves part of North America... When in Nicaragua I was known as either Chele (white boy) or el Norteamericano (the North American).
Meanwhile, in all the Spanish Textbooks I have seen, Mexico is never included in Central America...

From Wikipedia:

"Central America" may mean different things to different people in the world according to the context:
In English, Central America is considered a region of the North American continent.[7] Geopolitically, it usually comprises seven countries – Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama.[8] Mexico, in whole or in part, is occasionally included.[9] Some geographers include the five states of Campeche, Chiapas, Tabasco, Quintana Roo, and Yucatán,[8] together representing 12.1% of the country's total area.
In Latin America, Iberia, and some other parts of Europe, the Americas are considered to be a single continent, and Central America is considered a region of this continent. In Ibero-America, the region is defined as seven nations – Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama – and may occasionally include Mexico's southernmost region.[10] Geopolitically, Mexico is not considered part of the region.
The UN geoscheme defines the region as all states of North America south of the United States; conversely, the European Union excludes Belize and Mexico from its definition of the region.

[Obi-Wan Kubrick]

Originally Posted by boyleheights

Since when is Mexico considered a Central American country?

Since it has been located there the last 50 million years...

[reifer]

No offense but, you guys need a Geography lesson
Mexico is in "North America" not, Central America

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by reifer

No offense but, you guys need a Geography lesson
Mexico is in "North America" not, Central America

I don't think anyone is debating that Mexico is part of North America. What is uncertain is whether it's part of the Central American sub-concontinent.

[alenm88]

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kubrick

Since it has been located there the last 50 million years...

ehmm....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

[jcgnu]

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kubrick

Since it has been located there the last 50 million years...

50 million years ago Mexico didn't exist.... Nor any other country... Somebody needs a Geography lesson... and History!!!

Or maybe somebody just doesn't like Mexico and hates the fact that we ARE part of north america...

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by jcgnu

50 million years ago Mexico didn't exist.... Nor any other country... Somebody needs a Geography lesson... and History!!!

Or maybe somebody just doesn't like Mexico and hates the fact that we ARE part of north america...

You'll need to quantify your reply.

[enzos]

Originally Posted by walshbj

That's a fine looking building. I'm stuck with an Apple Store in a mall called, of all things, Southpark.

It may be a fine looking building but I can't see the stairs being all that popular with the ladies in summer... popular with the lads perhaps.

[bwik]

From a USA corporate perspective marketing to Mexico, clearly Mexico speaks Spanish and uses the exact same infrastructure as other Latin American countries, in terms of Spanish language, advertising and so on. So, for all intents and purposes, it is a unified CORPORATE region with Central America, as separate from the USA / Canada. This is probably Apple's perspective as well .... Latin America = 1 region and 1 market pool. Wherever it happens to be located.

[tonton]

If it's not 3G and if it's locked to one service provider it will be the "Ay, ay, ay! Phone."

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by Bageljoey

This is far from certain. There are many different ways to define regions--geological, geographical, political, economic, cultural... to name a few. Certainly, I don't remember anyone in Central America who considered themselves part of North America... When in Nicaragua I was known as either Chele (white boy) or el Norteamericano (the North American).
Meanwhile, in all the Spanish Textbooks I have seen, Mexico is never included in Central America...

From Wikipedia:

Good point, and one I was going to point out once I didn't have to post on an iPhone. Even if culturally (and economically or politically, which can fall under cultural as they tend to have effect) it's not considered North America, from a geological standpoint it is on the continent of N. America. That is the original definition and therefore stands against any social shunning of the term that some people may have against it. Sub-classifications are fine, but it makes classification pointless if one disengages the root definition because emotional reasoning.

The Oxford American dictionary defines North America as: "A continent comprising the northern half of the American landmass, connected to South America by the Isthmus of Panama. It contains Canada, the U.S., Mexico, the countries of Central America, and usually Greenland."

It also defines Central America as: "The southernmost part of North America that links the continent to South America and consists of the countries of Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama."

This often also comprises all or most of the islands of the Caribbean in geological defintions, which in itself can be defined differently depending on your POV. For instance, the Bahamas are member of Caribeean Community (CARICOM), but they are not within the Caribbean Sea, and I don't believe the Carib indians ever settled the island. So they are Caribbean from a political and economic standpoint, but not from a maritime or anthropological standpoint.

[funka]

Here in Mexico Telcel (America movil) works only with 3G band in which represents that we are getting the new iphone or at least 3G version becuase the one thats sells ATT dosen't work with the tecnologies for the browser and other details such as visual voice mail.

Apple Store in México is going to take a long time, such i guess they are going to be openning more in other spots that represent a market. What they are doing is giving resellers the chances to be APR (Preimun Resellers) and are being supported by apple. In a future Apple can invest in a Apple Store.

The print of books and iTMS would be a great thing to know more about.

[success]

Mexico has always been Central America. The US might consider it part of the US though because the US likes to own everything and in fact Fox & Harper did blow Bush on several occasions, unlike Venezuela or other countries with a spine. And since the NWO is currently trying to unify Canada, USA and Mexico eventually it will all be a North American Union just like the EU. The “amero” is a proposed North American currency to replace the Canadian loonie, dollar and peso.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBw7cjxZ7-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA&NR=1

Here Ron Paul talks about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccxQ...eature=related

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by success

Mexico has always been Central America. The US might consider it part of the US though because the US likes to own everything.

The US does not consider Mexico part of the US*, but there are a lot of Mexicans in the US. There is no geopolitical definition that removes Mexico from N. America, but there are varying definitions that put Mexico (in whole or part) that define it as Central America.


* If you want to go back a few purchases, wars and massacres then you may have a point, but that is another thread altogether.
<Old timey map of Mejico>



PS: The Amero is a really bad idea on many levels. This wikipage has a pretty explanation of the associated pitfalls.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_currency_union

[monkeyastronaut]

mexico = north america and nothing else. dont knock your brains out.

and about the iTMS Mexico... BOUT TIME BITCHES!! there are some of us here in good ole mx that would gladly pay for digital downloads that are ipod compatible and integrate seamlessly with itunes if given the option!

[jcgnu]

Originally Posted by success

Mexico has always been Central America. The US might consider it part of the US though because the US likes to own everything and in fact Mexico does get on its knees for the US, unlike Venezuela or other Latin American countries with a spine. And since the NWO is currently trying to unify Canada, USA and Mexico eventually it will all be a North American Union just like the EU. The “amero” is a proposed North American currency to replace the Canadian loonie, dollar and peso.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBw7cjxZ7-A

Hahahaha... that was actually funny.... the video is hillarious! No way in this world that's gonna happen.... Do you really think the US would agree to have a common currency with us?? Plus, 99% of the Mexican population would reject the idea! (believe it or not).

Anyway... Mexico does NOT get on its knees for the US... remember Bush wanting to make the war to Iraq? Mexico voted no... Of course, mr Bush punished us, but we standed for what we believed in (we as in I would have voted the same way if I had been there). Sure we have more coincidences with the USA than with Venezuela, but that doesn't mean we don't have a voice of our own. Anyway, how much can you do against the most powerful nation in the world??

So, the point of the story was not a political discussion, but to state that soon we'll be gettin an iTunes Store and the new iPhone. Yeah, believe it or not there is a whole world outside the US and not all Mexicans are poor and illegal immigrants...

[mdriftmeyer]

Originally Posted by alenm88

ehmm....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

What was it labeled before the term, America?

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer

What was it labeled before the term, America?

I don't recall ever reading about any pre-American terms for the continent(s) as a whole. There would be regions that were named by proto-American people but none that cover the whole, unless they are newer discoveries. I'll try to find out, but I'm pretty doubtful.

[anantksundaram]

Originally Posted by bwik

From a USA corporate perspective marketing to Mexico, clearly Mexico speaks Spanish and uses the exact same infrastructure as other Latin American countries, in terms of Spanish language, advertising and so on. So, for all intents and purposes, it is a unified CORPORATE region with Central America, as separate from the USA / Canada. This is probably Apple's perspective as well .... Latin America = 1 region and 1 market pool. Wherever it happens to be located.

The discussion of whether something constitutes Latin America has nothing to do with North or South America. 'Latin' does not equate to 'South.'

Not to inflame issues further, but this discussion also shows a some ignorance about what constitutes the seven continents (I recall a discussion about whether Russia was part of Europe, and some people were using the residents' state of mind as the distinguishing factor - 'gee, I feel European, so I must be one....').

Mexico is a part of the continent called North America. One does not get to choose that fact.

(Btw, corporate America also often lumps countries into 'EMEA' category, which stands for Europe, Middle East, and Africa - in terms of continental classification, it is a completely meaningless contruct, as would no doubt agree!).

[c0h1b4]

Tell me about long term previsions, futurology, anything!!!!

The interview with mr. Souza (Brazil Distr. Manager) was done last year, June 5th 2007!!!! And he was talking about the release of the iPhone last year, not this new one (or maybe he had a direct connection with mr Jobs and knew that the new iPhone was going out on June 11th 2008 - 1 year after the interview).

Please, erase your wrong headlines. This is pathetic. Your sources are realy failing.

[c0h1b4]

I can't help it.... is this the future of recycling? Recycling news from 1 year ago and making headlines with them???



1 year have gone and no iTunes store for Brazil. Not yesterday, not today and not tomorrow. Perhaps in 1 year this news will be off again with the 3rd gen iPhone and plans for an iTunes store in Brazil....

[Bageljoey]

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

Not to inflame issues further, but this discussion also shows a some ignorance about what constitutes the seven continents (I recall a discussion about whether Russia was part of Europe, and some people were using the residents' state of mind as the distinguishing factor - 'gee, I feel European, so I must be one....').

Mexico is a part of the continent called North America. One does not get to choose that fact.

I don't think you are inflaming things, I think it is an interesting discussion.
And I do think that context is important here. This is not a geological discussion. I think that everyone would agree (if they took the time to look into things) that Mexico is considered part of North America when talking about the continents.
The issue of Central America is much more complicated because it does not have an agreed upon definition--not according to my general understanding of the area nor according to my cursory research.

When talking about a news item like this, however, I think you should take into account the general understanding of the reader unless your goal is to bring up a geology discussion. If most people think that Mexico is not best identified as a "Central American country," why use that phrase?

For (an admittedly absurd) example, suppose Jobs' "one more thing" at the WWDC keynote is the iZapper--an AirPort upgrade that is an outdoor wireless N router/backup HD with bug zapping capabilities to protect you from flies and mosquitos while using your MacBook outside. Are you going to spend your time explaining that it is an "insect zapper" not a "bug zapper" because bug is a scientific term for the order Hemiptera, which does not include flies or mosquitos? Probably not, because in common usage, bug works for most people in this situation to mean annoying insect.

Therefore, if the common usage in the US, Mexico and Central America does not include Mexico in the later, why should this article?

[OrionNo9]

I am always surprised when I am reading the discussions on this site and I see them go off on a tragents such as is Australia an island or a continent (it is both.) For the record the seven continent are Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia. Notice that Central America is not in that list. Central America is just a regain within North America, the landmass that connects upper N. America to S. America. it is like Iran getting all upset because I where to say they are part of the Middle East instead of saying Asia, it is just ridiculous.
Their is nothing discriminating about saying that some country is on one regain, instead of saying another regain it is in as well.

[monkeyastronaut]

Originally Posted by jcgnu

Do you really think the US would agree to have a common currency with us?? Plus, 99% of the Mexican population would reject the idea! (believe it or not).

the PRD would be first in line.

Originally Posted by jcgnu

Yeah, believe it or not there is a whole world outside the US and not all Mexicans are poor and illegal immigrants...

Amen.

[jcgnu]

Originally Posted by c0h1b4

Tell me about long term previsions, futurology, anything!!!!

The interview with mr. Souza (Brazil Distr. Manager) was done last year, June 5th 2007!!!! And he was talking about the release of the iPhone last year, not this new one (or maybe he had a direct connection with mr Jobs and knew that the new iPhone was going out on June 11th 2008 - 1 year after the interview).

Please, erase your wrong headlines. This is pathetic. Your sources are realy failing.

It is true that the interview was done last year. Although, the mention of iTunes stores in Mexico and Brazil seems logical to me. It takes more than a year to do that since you need to arrange a lot of different stuff with a lot of different people in order to open an iTunes store. Some other sources have indicated that it could happen this year, so I think Mr. Souza knew that the efforts were starting to be done since last year.

The only problem I see in the article is about the iPhone release date, wich does coincide with last year's launch date. As for the rest, I think it is somewhat believable.

Besides the story from Mundo Mac was pulled out shortly after being published. That also happened to the story of a Mexican Store Online a few months ago. Apple called them and asked them to delete it that time. I guess same thing happened this time.

I'm pretty certain it's gonna happen, just wait a few more weeks.

[Mr.Scott]

Originally Posted by enzos

It may be a fine looking building but I can't see the stairs being all that popular with the ladies in summer... popular with the lads perhaps.

Amen to that brother!!!

[digitalclips]

Originally Posted by Bageljoey

I don't think you are inflaming things, I think it is an interesting discussion.
And I do think that context is important here. This is not a geological discussion.

No but I think it was a tending to be a geographical one though

[Bageljoey]

Originally Posted by digitalclips

No but I think it was a tending to be a geographical one though

OK, but that was actually my point.
Many posters were distilling the discussion to plate techtonics to derive the ultimate answer, I would say this was geology. Others were saying that humans and how they viewed the world had nothing to do with the discussion--again, I think this bypasses geography because I have always thought that geography was a study of the human/natural world interface.

maybe I would have been better served to reference "physical geography" versus "human geography" but I didn't know of that distinction until now...