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3G iPhone shell photos; possible Centrino 2 delay
Photos have surfaced of an accessory maker's purported reference model for the 3G iPhone. Also, Intel may have stalled the launch of its Centrino 2 mobile platform, potentially affecting the release of future MacBooks.
3G iPhone case mockup reappears in Netherlands While there has been no shortage of images purported to reflect the final look of a 3G-capable iPhone, a new leak by Dutch site iPhoneclub supports evidence of subtle but significant alterations to the iPhone's outer appearance. Seemingly matching a southeast Asian leak from just two weeks earlier, a mockup allegedly being used by a European accessory designer has a curved back needed to handle the extra demands of 3G as well as subtler visible changes, including a thinner chrome bezel that gives the appearance of a larger front face. The back similarly abandons the silver-tinted aluminum of the current iPhone in favor of what appears to be white plastic, matching month-old descriptions by iLounge that suggested Apple may return to offering multiple colors. The possibility exists, however, that the backing is simply left white-colored for testing purposes. Those same allegations also pointed to additional, hidden sensors at the top of the phone that may be used for video calling. None of these are immediately visible in the accompanying shots, while the reportedly altered microphone and speaker grilles are also hidden from view. Intel's Centrino 2 may face multi-week delay Predictions that Apple will introduce new MacBooks at WWDC may have been dashed by a last-minute delay. Citing contacts it claims are close to Intel, TG Daily alleges that delays in approving the Wi-Fi chipset for the Centrino 2 platform's mainboard will now push the debut of the architecture until July 14th, or between two to three weeks after a projected but still unofficial late June launch window. This initial launch would only include Intel's standard 802.11a/b/g wireless chipset, the purported sources claim; systems that need 802.11n would need to ship two weeks later. As Apple uses 802.11n across all its notebooks, a delay of the sort would stall the shipment of Apple's planned major MacBook redesigns until late July or afterwards. Separately, an issue with integrated graphics chipsets associated with Centrino 2 has also allegedly created problems and would specifically stall the launch of new aluminum MacBooks, which are likely to depend on Intel's built-in video hardware. |
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From what I have read and seen, it seems the camera still doesn't have a flash integrated. Bummer.
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These are the first of the supposed "leaks" that I actually see as a possibility.
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These are not real. Anyone who thinks so has lost their marbles as far am I'm concerned.
Collecting my SSD iMac Fry-die. :D
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Am I the only one who doesn't expect a MB update for several months? It was just updated 91 days ago and has an average update cycle of 192 days.
They do look good but there are some little issues. There is no text on the back and device looks to be slightly taller and wider. Although, most smartphones do tend to be thicker to accomodate the QWERTY keyboard. Perhaps Apple is making the logical keyboard easier to use by using a slighty wider display. |
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'Mockups'
If Apple really is distributing iPhone mockups to accessory designers, all they would have to replicate is the shape, not the color or the materials used. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense to create plastic prototypes, to throw iPhone rumor-mongers like this from spilling the secret?
The real iPhone is very likely to be that shape, but I predict that it will be aluminum. It fits with Apple's new design paradigm of moving toward green materials. Also, I think we can all agree, plastic is pretty ugly. |
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Aluminum isn't necessarily inherently greener than plastic just because people think it is. There are problems with aluminum too. It's a very energy intensive material to convert from ore to alloy, and anodizing it requires the use of some pretty caustic chemicals too. That's why it's so expensive despite being more abundant than iron.
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Why include the Apple Logo?
The thing I don't get is why Apple would include their logo or any text at all on a prototype or or any pre-release version. Either this isn't real or SJ is once again successfully gaming the system to create hype by allowing logos on these. It also could certainly be SJ throwing the dogs off the scent by leaking bogus shots. I'm trying to think back to any prior "spy photos" which turned out to be real to recall if they had logos, etc. Every auto maker under the sun does everything it can to camouflage its cars pre-release, SJ's at least a little craftier than those guys. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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All that is true, but Apple really needs a radio transparent material to cover the back. The iPhone has a decent antenna but with an all plastic or zirconia or Kevlar or carbon fiber or Area 51 alien spaceship metal as a backing it could have a great antenna. And 3G radios are much more suseptible to interference. This is one area I hope Apple puts function over form and being green.
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I would think this is real, the back could indeed be used for testing purposes. Too bad there isn't a flash of some sort, and where is the front camera? Come on, it's really a MUST.
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I do not, at all, understand why the consensus is that if it's colored in such a tone as glossy white or black that it means it's plastic.
They don't move backwards with exterior material quality. If you must reduce Steve Job's role at AAPL to one responsibility - it's in-the-hand fit-and-finish-and-operational-polish supervisor. There is no way they are just ignoring the nearly universal utterance made in all the first-gen iPhone reviews about how incredibly high-quality and substantial the metal and glass made the phone feel. Plastic of any variety would be absolutely idiotic. What am I suggesting is more likely? Ceramics, baby. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...e_casings.html I'm too lazy to link the actual filing, but to anyone who's read at least a couple of their patents: I've never read one that had such incredibly convincing language explaining that this is the inevitable future of the mentioned Apple products. 100% radio transparency; greater density and rigidity than comparable metals; more powerful control over texturing, coloring and application of residues (such as applying a thin layer of rubber coat for grip or the like); manufacturing processes that had already been planned and detailed; and (even mentioned in the filing) it undoubtedly makes the devices created with ceramics feel more upscale than anything before. The writing is on the wall - er, the patent office's website. Everyone seems to be ignoring Apple's (read: Ive and Jobs) obsession with crazy materials. |
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I agree. I don't know why people expect a $400 phone to have a camera equivalent to a $400 digital camera!!
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By this logic, anybody who wants to do anything other than talk should buy a laptop computer, a camera, an mp3 player, an address book, a desk calendar, and a notepad.
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Also, to a lot of people a camera in their phone is a must have. I wish they never stuck cameras in cell phones, but my opinion is definitely the minority here. |
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A delay on the integrated graphics would indeed delay any new MacBooks. I wasn't originally expecting any laptop updates from Apple at WWDC, but then AI started talking about the possibility and I got all excited (been waiting a long time to get a MacBook Pro with MacBook-style keyboard and magnetic latch). Now my hopes are being dashed. How cruel you are, AI. Apostrophes are simple - they are used to indicate either missing letters or possession. Missing letters take precedence. So:
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OK, so it's not helpful for those that go to institutions that disallow cameras, but I think the real problem is those institutions, not the phone, not that the institutions are suddenly going to change policies. As far as I'm concerned, it's a policy that only penalizes the honest people. Anyone that wants to sneak pictures out can carry even smaller and easier to conceal devices to do the same thing. Last edited by JeffDM; 05-27-2008 at 07:52 PM.. |
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that looks so much like case
its fake duhhhhhhhhhhh |
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He didn't say it shouldn't have a camera, he only stated that if you want a camera with a flash and large lens that one may want to invest in a dedicated device.
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I disagree. The $400 camera comment above is dead on. Yes the phone has things you mention (calendar, notepad, etc) but their features are a subset of what you get on a laptop. Just like the camera is a subset of what you get on a $400 camera. Nasser's argument is well-said, if not obvious. I don't see any validity to what you're saying Haggar. Am I missing something?
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I'm not sure where the idea that Aluminum is a green material came from either. As you point out it is very expensive to produce and recycle. In any event people need to get with the program, iPhone needs to improve its RF performance and getting rid of the aluminum is one issue that needs to be addressed. Like it or not function is more important than appearance in the case of a cell phone. Even given that there are a lot of resin options available to Apple from which they can make a very nice shell for the iPhone. Dave |
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Echh! Fake! Fake! Fake!
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
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Look up resins like Ultem and some of the other engineered materials. I once tried to dent a piece of Ultem with a 24 oz ball peen hammer, let me tell you the stuff is rugged. As to the more commercially available examples look at any Milwaukee tool you might find, the plastics on their tools is very rugged indeed. Quote:
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These are 100% real. I'm happy to take bets on it.
We have seen total consistency across 4 sets of images. Unless there is some kind of international conspiracy of Photoshoppers, I am totally convinced that this is at least one version of the device. It's not a new iPod touch because you can read the word iPhone on the back. It is clearly not a 3rd party case. It's too thin and the corners are too rounded to accomodate an iPhone. All these images seem to depict the same thing: an empty shell. Without the electronics. Notice that although the rear case is black or white. The Apple logo is a mirror-like polished metal. This could imply a plastic case with a metal inlay, or a metal case with a colored paint. From these newest images it looks like the entire back of the case is the antenna. The profile of the device takes cues from the Macbook Air. With a wedge shaped edge the device can be fatter while being easier to slip into a pocket. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() C. |
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PUKE on the Pearl White Shell
... and classic INTEL.
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Make a BTO Carbon-fiber Shell and let people know they have a more impact resistant model to buy. It would sell.
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Glossy back = fail
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Not at all. But if I want to take good quality photos I'll buy a decent digital camera, and if I want a decent computer then I'll buy a laptop, and if I want a decent mp3 player then I'll buy one of those. I want a GOOD phone, and not a mediocre phone/camera/mp3 player/etc.
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All these negative comments are reminiscent of all the 3rd gen iPod Nano comments. You know, the "fatty" nano pics that couldn't be real and that most people hated--including me--until it was seen in person.
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I had been pushing (I *guess* trolling) this opinion in multiple venues hoping someone more knowledgeable would school me. Any more neat materials to read about besides Ultem? |
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The Minis and other Nanos certainly feel more natural in your hand. That is my brother's biggest issue with it, but the choice to include a bigger screen was a good move. I suppose they could make it a "candy bar" again by removing the clickwheel and allowing you to watch video sideways like the Touch, but then we have an issue with blind tactileless operation of the device.
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MacBook cases, iPods, and pretty much all the white plastic stuff Apple has made are all notoriously easy to scratch. I would have thought that if Apple were inclined to use a super durable plastic housing material, they would have done it long before now. Plus, they seem to be steadily moving away from plastics in their case designs, in general. I'm holding out for Zirconium, myself. Apple has the patent on file, it's super hard and radio transparent, and is in common use for industrial applications. It strikes as exactly the kind of forward thinking material technology that Apple would make every effort to press into service, as a product differentiator. Like, show up at the Zirconium plant and challenge them to fabricate a light, thin, impact resistant case. I'm no authority, but I would imagine that a ceramic material would be far greener than either plastic or aluminum, as well. All hail bad ass ceramic iPhones!
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People should be asknig themselves why every "leaked" photo we get of this phone is blurry, from a bad angle, or doesn't focus in on the bits that matter (often a picture of the back of the case). I wouldn't put much weight in any of these pics, and they could even be leaks that Apple itself have setup.
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That doesn't mean that they can't take usable pictures, but even 5 MP is wasted. I've gotten images from a couple of these "picture" phones, and the pictures are only good when seen on a monitor, over the internet. Try to make a good 8 x 10 print, and they fall apart. How much do you want to pay for the camera function? $10, $25, $50, $75?, $100? |
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