AppleInsider AppleInsider Forums


Go Back   AppleInsider > iPhone
Register Members List New Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-09-2008, 10:34 AM   #1
AppleInsider
Kasper's Automated Slave
 
Join Date: Nov 1997
Posts: 6,151
Rogers to offer Canadians limited time $30 6GB iPhone 3G data plan

Rogers Wireless and its carrier partner Fido have announced that iPhone 3G buyers concerned about data usage on their new handsets can subscribed to a $30 per month 6GB data plan through a limited time promotion.

The offer, which runs through August 31, will allow customers to add the $30 package to any in-market voice plan. Rogers said 6GB of data should be sufficient to view 35,952 web pages, exchange 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes of YouTube videos each and every month.

In addition, the carriers said new iPhone 3G customers will have the choice to select from existing Rogers voice and smartphone data plans with additional features to best suit their needs, or from the previously announced value bundled plans specifically for iPhone 3G.

Meanwhile, existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their needs, or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade eligibility.

In anticipation of Friday's launch, both Rogers and Fido also announced plans to open the doors of select retail stores across Canada in advance of regular hours. Starting at 8:00 a.m., customers will be able to purchase the new iPhone 3G at special launch day events to be held at six Rogers Plus stores across: Toronto (112-10 Dundas Street East), Montreal (1015 rue St. Catherine Ouest), Ottawa (690 Bank Street), Halifax (Unit 265, 7001 Mumford Road), Calgary (5244 Falsbridge Gate, NE), and Vancouver (2097 West Broadway). Fido will hold a similar event at its flagship store at 1004 rue St. Catherine Ouest, Montreal.

Customers attending the launch day events at any of those stores will be treated to a free early bird breakfast and have a chance to win prizes, Rogers and Fido said.

iPhone 3G will also be available at participating locations across Canada during regular store hours, including select Rogers Plus, Rogers Video, and Rogers Wireless retail locations and at the following specially selected authorized Rogers Wireless dealers: WirelessWave, TBooth and Wireless etc. A complete store listing is available here.

Alternatively, Canadians can also purchase iPhone 3G online at www.rogers.com and through Rogers' customer service at 1-888-764-3771.

Due to anticipated high demand, Rogers says there will be a limit of two iPhone 3Gs per customer.
AppleInsider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 10:42 AM   #2
BenRoethig
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Dubuque, IA USA
Posts: 2,400
Someone (Vodafone or AT&T) really needs to buy these jokers out for the sake of our friends in the Great White North.


"Don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking" -Steve Jobs. I guess he forgot to add "unless its mine."
BenRoethig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 10:44 AM   #3
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Where is this promotion available to view online?
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
zoboomafoo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 32
well, it sounds like the people (and apple) have spoken, and they seem to have listened.

of course, i'm so absolutely confused by this that they may have delivered even worse options.

but hey, at least we got some new alternatives?
zoboomafoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:04 AM   #5
nikeisevil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1
Does this mean it's a $30 add-on to the current iphone plans? So let's do the math:

$60+$30+$6.95= $96.95

That's still a lot of money. They should offer the $30 plan wrapped up in all the current bundles at no extra charge for a limited time.
nikeisevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:09 AM   #6
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulkas View Post
Where is this promotion available to view online?
Answered my own question

This sound like what I needed to convince myself to get the iPhone. My voice plan is good and I have no intention of giving it up or tripling my bill. Now I can add data, doubling my bill, but fairly reasonable. Seems like Visual VoiceMail will be an additional $8, but I can live without that for now.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:09 AM   #7
JoeDRC
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Alternatively, Canadians can also purchase iPhone 3G online at www.rogers.com and through Rogers' customer service at 1-888-764-3771.

Due to anticipated high demand, Rogers says there will be a limit of two iPhone 3Gs per customer.

I highly doubt it.
So if I'm right Canadian iPhone Customers will have to pay an extra $30 a month on top of the $60 they're already paying for hardly any minutes and SMS.


Eeeeek! Glad O2 have given sensible Tariffs!


MacBook 2.1Ghz
iPhone 3G 8GB Black
JoeDRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:11 AM   #8
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeisevil View Post
Does this mean it's a $30 add-on to the current iphone plans? So let's do the math:

$60+$30+$6.95= $96.95

That's still a lot of money. They should offer the $30 plan wrapped up in all the current bundles at no extra charge for a limited time.
What are you getting for your $60 voice plan and how long have you had it? My voice plan is ok, and is one of the reasons I would not consider the iPhone plans. I got my voice plan down to $30 with pretty good features (what I need anyway). So, a $30 for high data is not bad.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:18 AM   #9
the cool gut
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,573
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeisevil View Post
Does this mean it's a $30 add-on to the current iphone plans? So let's do the math:

$60+$30+$6.95= $96.95

That's still a lot of money.
And you still haven't added the $15 to get frickin' call display ...
the cool gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:22 AM   #10
paxman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by the cool gut View Post
And you still haven't added the $15 to get frickin' call display ...
Exactomundo

for 60$ per month + Made Up Access fee 6.95 + 911 fee $0.5, you get
150 daytime minutes (unlimited after 9pm)
75 texts
400mb data

For an additional $15 per month you get caller display and 2500 txts

For an additional $30- you get 6gb data package (for a limited period)!

So a minimum package with caller id (who doesn't use caller id and how does vvm function without it?) and increased data you'll pay

$60 + $6.95 + $0.5 + $15 + $30 = north of $112.- + tax

When the free period is over the 30 per month turns into 100 per month
Me thinks this is still not such a great deal.


Last edited by paxman; 07-09-2008 at 11:41 AM..
paxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:25 AM   #11
fraklinc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 206
No you can pick up a $30 for voice & $30 for 6GB of data which is not bad cause no one really uses that much data on a smart phone unless you tether it to a laptop and use it at home. We in the states get unlimited data but it has a soft cap of 5GB from AT&T so canadian plans are not that bad anymore although i think being charge for caller ID is a total ripoff
fraklinc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:28 AM   #12
dgMac
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2
Cleanup those data plans!

Rogers has over 56,000 and counting very angry customers registering their displeasure at http://www.ruinediphone.com. They need to be doing a lot more than announcing a "time-limited" data plan:

1) They need to immediately DROP THE ORIGINAL phone/data plans that got everyone so angry off their rogers and fido websites! Just seeing those data plans there is reminding everyone how they got into this public relations disaster.

2) They need to instead show new phone/data plans with a fixed price that includes ALL CHARGES in a single list:
* daytime calling minutes (eg 100, 300, 500 etc)
* unlimited evening and weekend
* visual voice mail
* system access fee INCLUDED (not slipped into the fine print below)
* Caller ID INCLUDED (not added onto some goofy $15 addon plan)
* 6 GB data plan (its not unlimited, but it will have to do)

And they need to drop that Aug 31 time limit. To angry customers, that sounds arrogant ("Ok, we'll DEIGN to allow this, ONCE.")

When you've got a lot of angry customers, the last thing you want is to create confusion over what your Hail-Mary-Pass last-minute fix is going to be. Make your new plan as unconfusing as possible.


Last edited by dgMac; 07-09-2008 at 11:39 AM..
dgMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:32 AM   #13
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post
Exactomundo

for 60$ per month + Made Up Access fee 6.95 + 911 fee $0.5, you get
150 daytime minutes (unlimited after 9pm)
75 texts
400mb data

For an additional $15 per month you get caller display and 2500 txts

For an additional $30- you get 6gb data package (for a limited period)!

So a minimum package with caller id (who doesn't use caller id and how does vvm function without it?) and increased data you'll pay

$60 + $6.95 + $0.5 + $15 + $30 = north of $112.- + tax

When the fee period is over the 30 per month turns into 100 per month
Me thinks this is still not such a great deal.
Your $60 voice plan must really suck if it does not include call display. Unless you specifically mean caller display, which isn't something I would pay for.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:34 AM   #14
Hujib
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 117
My understanding is that you choose any current voice plan and add the data plan you want - the $30/6GB plan being one of those options. The original "iPhone Plans" are not the only plan options, they are combo plans including both voice and data.

Come Friday, I plan on adding the new $30/6GB data plan to my existing Fido voice plan for use with the iPhone 3G.

I don't think that the rate will change come September, I think that you have until then to sign up for the $30/6GB plan. After that it won't be available or different plans will be available for new contracts.

Most of the confusion about the Rogers/Fido plans stems from the fact that AT&T has set plans and when Rogers/Fido announced their combination voice/data plans people made the assumption the Canadian model would be based on the U.S. one. I made the same assumption. Rogers/Fido allow you to mix and match plans as you like - something they should have made clear from day 1.
Hujib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:39 AM   #15
paxman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulkas View Post
Your $60 voice plan must really suck if it does not include call display. Unless you specifically mean caller display, which isn't something I would pay for.
EDITED: It has been pointed out to me that I was wrong - all packages apparently come with caller ID which is the equivalent to call display. Live and learn.


Last edited by paxman; 07-09-2008 at 12:22 PM..
paxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:42 AM   #16
lfmorrison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeisevil View Post
Does this mean it's a $30 add-on to the current iphone plans? So let's do the math:

$60+$30+$6.95= $96.95
No. It means you can use ANY of Rogers' existing voice plans, and add the 6 GB data plan for $30 per month.

To use my current plan as an example, that would be:
$25 - voice
$11 - conventional voicemail + Caller ID value package
$6.95 - system access fee (really should be rolled into the "voice" category above, but Rogers doesn't swing that way)
$0.50 - 911 fee
$0.43 - Nova Scotia government 911 fee
$30 - 6 GB data
------
73.88 per month. Will not include visual voicemail, which will probably only exist in conjunction with the iPhone value plans.
Also does not include 13% sales tax.
lfmorrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:48 AM   #17
greatwhitenorth
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1
Correction

The article is mistaken. According to the Rogers iPhone website if you select a voice plan and want to add data, $30 only gets you 300MB and $100 will get you 6GB.


Edit: Never mind, i was wrong. It is $30 for 6GB until August 31.


Last edited by greatwhitenorth; 07-09-2008 at 11:58 AM.. Reason: Correction
greatwhitenorth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:50 AM   #18
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post
Caller Display (what is this 'call display' you refer to?).
But does visual voice mail work without caller dispaly? Surely without it you'll just get a list of calls to choose from with no idea who the caller is. Pretty useless if that is the case. I guess you don't strictly need caller display to survive but I have never met anyone without it.
I think call display is just the number and caller display is the name. The iPhone shouldbe able to display the caller name, if it is in your contacts, just with Call Display. All of my old phones can, so I expect the iphone can.

But really, your $60 doesn't have Call Display?
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:50 AM   #19
ktappe
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 134
Thumbs down Union busting

Quote:
well, it sounds like the people (and apple) have spoken, and they seem to have listened.
I disagree. This is not Rogers caving in at all, but is the equivalent of union busting--they are trying to break the resolve of petition signers to not get phones. Due to the limited supply of phones and the expiration date on this deal, only a few early buyers (scabs) will get the reward, and the masses will still get stuck with the original, petitioned plans. If the deal were permanent, it'd be a concession, but until it is Rogers remains deserving of wrath.
ktappe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:51 AM   #20
CDN_newguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post
So a minimum package with caller id (who doesn't use caller id and how does vvm function without it?) and increased data you'll pay $60 + $6.95 + $0.5 + $15 + $30 = north of $112.- + tax
Naw, I figure you keep your existing voice plan (which likely includes texts & callerID, and just add this $30/mo plan on top. So you've got a $40/mo voice plan, $40+$30+6.95+0.50 = $77.45 for what you've got already + 6GB of data.

The kicker (imho) is that Rogers isn't saying what "limited" means... Is it limited to those that sign up before Aug 31st? Is it only an introductory offer for the 1st 6mo, then you go to $100/mo? It's gotta be the second variety (PKD reference!). I just can't see them leaving that much $ on the table - they don't leave money ANYWHERE (except maybe in Ted's jeans )...
CDN_newguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:51 AM   #21
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhitenorth View Post
The article is mistaken. According to the Rogers iPhone website if you select a voice plan and want to add data, $30 only gets you 300MB and $100 will get you 6GB.

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wi..._data_packages
Those are their regular data plans. Rogers press release from today announced a promo plan, till Aug 31, that will allow you to add 6GB data for $30/month to your existing voice plan. So, the article is correct.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:52 AM   #22
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDN_newguy View Post
Naw, I figure you keep your existing voice plan (which likely includes texts & callerID, and just add this $30/mo plan on top. So you've got a $40/mo voice plan, $40+$30+6.95+0.50 = $77.45 for what you've got already + 6GB of data.

The kicker (imho) is that Rogers isn't saying what "limited" means... Is it limited to those that sign up before Aug 31st? Is it only an introductory offer for the 1st 6mo, then you go to $100/mo? It's gotta be the second variety (PKD reference!). I just can't see them leaving that much $ on the table - they don't leave money ANYWHERE (except maybe in Ted's jeans )...
The press release says it is a limited time promo in terms of the window to sign up, but it does not mention that the price expire once you sign up.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:55 AM   #23
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktappe View Post
I disagree. This is not Rogers caving in at all, but is the equivalent of union busting--they are trying to break the resolve of petition signers to not get phones. Due to the limited supply of phones and the expiration date on this deal, only a few early buyers (scabs) will get the reward, and the masses will still get stuck with the original, petitioned plans. If the deal were permanent, it'd be a concession, but until it is Rogers remains deserving of wrath.
You are probably right. It is probably a response to the media attention, the complaints and to the Bell and Telus offers. But, I would suggest there is a strong possibility it will become a permanent offer and they introduced it as a promo as a face saving measure. They might have thought it would look bad to completely scrap the original plans right away.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 11:59 AM   #24
cjd
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 3
Fido but not Rogers?

I haven't seen anywhere yet that this is also offered at Rogers- everything seems to be coming from Fido only.
I'll believe this when I see it up on Rogers website. And if it IS true, can I keep my existing voice plan that I signed on for last year, even though it's not offered anymore?
BTW kids, I think everyone needs to stop bitching about this- pat yourselves on the back that they have listened to all of us and offered something that is actually a great deal. I mean, 6 gigs is a boatload of data and if you still can't afford the damn thing, maybe you're just going to suck it up and wait until you get a better job. I want a house in downtown Vancouver but I'm not out there shouting at people to give it to me for 150 thousand, am I?
Bear in mind that once we all get our new iPhones the data speeds are going to be a hell of a lot slower than advertised, as now that we've all got a rate that we can afford, even the snot nosed kid down the street is going to have one and the network is going to be clogged up anyways.
Well done everyone- but I think we ought to give Rogers a tip of the hat for listening.
cjd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:00 PM   #25
paxman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulkas View Post
I think call display is just the number and caller display is the name. The iPhone shouldbe able to display the caller name, if it is in your contacts, just with Call Display. All of my old phones can, so I expect the iphone can.

But really, your $60 doesn't have Call Display?
Edited: We do apparently, I was wrong.


Last edited by paxman; 07-09-2008 at 12:20 PM..
paxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:04 PM   #26
lfmorrison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd View Post
I haven't seen anywhere yet that this is also offered at Rogers- everything seems to be coming from Fido only.
It is up on Rogers' website:
http://your.rogers.com/aboutrogers/n...s_releases.asp

Check out the July 9 news entry that is (currently) on the top of the web page.

The news release most definitely does include the Rogers network (not just Fido) because it talks about events occurring at retail stores in Halifax - Fido doesn't have any retail space in Halifax, only Rogers does.
lfmorrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:05 PM   #27
lfmorrison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post
Caller ID, call display, caller display - all the same thing. Without it you get ID unknown on the display. And no, no package that I know of in Canada comes with caller id / display

Shocking, no?
Call Display is exactly equivalent to Caller ID in USA terminology. Name Display is Roger's name for a premium service that automatically sends both the Name and Number of an incoming call, regardless of whether the caller is already in your address book.

Rogers Pay As You Go (prepaid service) includes complimentary caller ID. Last I checked, so do the prepaid options from Bell and Telus.
lfmorrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:07 PM   #28
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd View Post
I haven't seen anywhere yet that this is also offered at Rogers- everything seems to be coming from Fido only.
I'll believe this when I see it up on Rogers website. And if it IS true, can I keep my existing voice plan that I signed on for last year, even though it's not offered anymore?
BTW kids, I think everyone needs to stop bitching about this- pat yourselves on the back that they have listened to all of us and offered something that is actually a great deal. I mean, 6 gigs is a boatload of data and if you still can't afford the damn thing, maybe you're just going to suck it up and wait until you get a better job. I want a house in downtown Vancouver but I'm not out there shouting at people to give it to me for 150 thousand, am I?
Bear in mind that once we all get our new iPhones the data speeds are going to be a hell of a lot slower than advertised, as now that we've all got a rate that we can afford, even the snot nosed kid down the street is going to have one and the network is going to be clogged up anyways.
Well done everyone- but I think we ought to give Rogers a tip of the hat for listening.
Their official press release is on Rogers site, and discusses Rogers Wireless, not Fido. It is identical to the Fido release on PRNewsWire.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:09 PM   #29
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post
Caller ID, call display, caller display - all the same thing. Without it you get ID unknown on the display. And no, no package that I know of in Canada comes with caller id / display

Shocking, no?
My Fido plan has always included call display, i.e. the phone number of the incoming call. I don't see the name, unless the are in my address book. You are right, current Rogers/Fido plans don't likely include this. Probably don't include Voice Mail either. My $30 plan has both, and 300 minutes, and 50 out going texts and evenings/weekends starting at 7PM. You must have a very new plan not to have call display.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:18 PM   #30
paxman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by lfmorrison View Post
Call Display is exactly equivalent to Caller ID in USA terminology. Name Display is Roger's name for a premium service that automatically sends both the Name and Number of an incoming call, regardless of whether the caller is already in your address book.

Rogers Pay As You Go (prepaid service) includes complimentary caller ID. Last I checked, so do the prepaid options from Bell and Telus.
I stand corrected, then. I paid for caller ID at Telus when I joined two years ago. Coming from Europe I was shocked at having to pay this. My wife who also joined Telus could never see who called. I have to look into my deal and see what's what.
paxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:29 PM   #31
Megawatt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 34
I just called Rogers customer service, and the rep was unaware of the new $30 data plan promotion, so it hasn't quite filtered through their lines of communication. I'm a current Rogers wireless customer, and have 1 year left on my current contract.

The current upgrade prices for me are:

8GB iPhone - $299 (after $50 mail in rebate)
16GB iPhone - $399 (after $50 mail in rebate)

I like my current voice plan, but my concern is being locked into a 3 year contract when there will most likely be better competition next year (after the wireless spectrum auction finishes).

I would have 3 years of:

$25 voice plan
$30 6GB data plan
$6.95 system access
$3.10 GST

$65.05/month for 36 months = $2341.80.

When there is more competition, I bet I can get an unlimited data plan, no system access fee, and no contract. As much as I would like an iPhone this Friday, the long contract is the major deal breaker for me.
Megawatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:45 PM   #32
Tulkas
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megawatt View Post
I just called Rogers customer service, and the rep was unaware of the new $30 data plan promotion, so it hasn't quite filtered through their lines of communication. I'm a current Rogers wireless customer, and have 1 year left on my current contract.

The current upgrade prices for me are:

8GB iPhone - $299 (after $50 mail in rebate)
16GB iPhone - $399 (after $50 mail in rebate)

I like my current voice plan, but my concern is being locked into a 3 year contract when there will most likely be better competition next year (after the wireless spectrum auction finishes).

I would have 3 years of:

$25 voice plan
$30 6GB data plan
$6.95 system access
$3.10 GST

$65.05/month for 36 months = $2341.80.

When there is more competition, I bet I can get an unlimited data plan, no system access fee, and no contract. As much as I would like an iPhone this Friday, the long contract is the major deal breaker for me.
I called Fido, but they could not tell me what my price for the phones would be because I am not in my hardware upgrade window yet. I was trying to get them to force my acct into that status, so that i can get one before the promo expires. Nice thing about Fido is their FidoDollars points system, where you get 5%(I think) of your total monthly bill back as Fido Dollars and can apply them to the iPhone (or any other). So, I will have a ~$100 credit to apply, if they will just let me buy it at a subsidized price.
Tulkas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:50 PM   #33
iVlad
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 367
Exclamation don't buy iPhone. Just buy Rogers.

Can someone please buy Rogers already. AT&T have a tendency to Monopolize the world.
iVlad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 12:57 PM   #34
machei
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgMac View Post
Rogers has over 56,000 and counting very angry customers registering their displeasure at http://www.ruinediphone.com. They need to be doing a lot more than announcing a "time-limited" data plan:

1) They need to immediately DROP THE ORIGINAL phone/data plans that got everyone so angry off their rogers and fido websites! Just seeing those data plans there is reminding everyone how they got into this public relations disaster.

2) They need to instead show new phone/data plans with a fixed price that includes ALL CHARGES in a single list:
* daytime calling minutes (eg 100, 300, 500 etc)
* unlimited evening and weekend
* visual voice mail
* system access fee INCLUDED (not slipped into the fine print below)
* Caller ID INCLUDED (not added onto some goofy $15 addon plan)
* 6 GB data plan (its not unlimited, but it will have to do)

And they need to drop that Aug 31 time limit. To angry customers, that sounds arrogant ("Ok, we'll DEIGN to allow this, ONCE.")

When you've got a lot of angry customers, the last thing you want is to create confusion over what your Hail-Mary-Pass last-minute fix is going to be. Make your new plan as unconfusing as possible.
I couldn't agree more. And yet, sadly, on the news boards I read this concession is winning people over. People are saying there's no way any normal use will go over 6GB, and for some reason are now willing to suck up the three year contract. They'll be "waiting in line on Friday" now. Geez.

What we SHOULD do, now that we have Ted's greedy ADHD consideration, is nothing at all different from what brought this about. Don't buy one. Not right away. Two months more, and we get everything we want. I'd bet on it.

Read my lips, Ted:

UN-LIM-IT-ED data. At a decent price point (see AT&T). Permanently (none of this limited time horsecrap).

I, for one, am still taking a pass at this. My ideal would be to buy the phone outright for 4-500 bucks, and get the plan they're offering for as long as I want it, whenever I want it.

m.
machei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 01:20 PM   #35
ktappe
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 134
Question Do iPhones Last 36 Months?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megawatt View Post
As much as I would like an iPhone this Friday, the long contract is the major deal breaker for me.
I agree. The data limit I might or might not hit, but the 36 month contract is just silly. I am not even convinced iPhones are designed to last that long (seriously). I once recall hearing that Apple only means the design life of an iPod to be 18 months. (It came up during a discussion on battery replaceability.) An iPhone is not that far removed from an iPod and I'd be interested to hear confirmation or denial from Apple that they expect iPhones (and their batteries) to be fully functional after 36 months.
ktappe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 01:34 PM   #36
lfmorrison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktappe View Post
I agree. The data limit I might or might not hit, but the 36 month contract is just silly. I am not even convinced iPhones are designed to last that long (seriously). I once recall hearing that Apple only means the design life of an iPod to be 18 months. (It came up during a discussion on battery replaceability.) An iPhone is not that far removed from an iPod and I'd be interested to hear confirmation or denial from Apple that they expect iPhones (and their batteries) to be fully functional after 36 months.
Maybe Rogers should throw in a complimentary subscription to Apple Care with every contract
lfmorrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 01:48 PM   #37
Prince1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 16
Press Release From Rogers (clarifications July 9,2008)

http://micro.newswire.ca/release.cgi...5804-0&Start=0
http://your.rogers.com/investorrelat...s_wireless.asp

Calling all iPhone 3G fans!

Select Rogers Plus stores to open early coast-to-coast on July 11
Launch promotions to include limited time 6GB data offer

TORONTO, July 9 /CNW/ - In anticipation of iPhone 3G launch on July 11,
Rogers Wireless today announced plans to open the doors of select Rogers Plus
retail stores across Canada in advance of regular hours. Starting at 8:00 am
July 11, Canadians will be able to purchase the new iPhone 3G at special
launch day events to be held at six Rogers Plus stores across the country. Be
among the first in Canada to get the next generation iPhone 3G and have the
choice of a 6GB data plan through a limited time promotional price offer.
"As Canada's leading wireless carrier, Rogers is excited to bring iPhone
3G to Canadians even sooner, allowing our customers to be amongst the first in
the world to experience this amazing mobile innovation," says John Boynton,
Senior Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer, Rogers Wireless. "To
celebrate its launch on Canada's fastest wireless network, we're rolling out
the red carpet with special events at six Rogers Plus stores and a limited
time price promotional data offer from coast-to-coast."
iPhone 3G combines all the revolutionary features of iPhone with 3G
networking that is twice as fast(*) as the first generation iPhone, built-in GPS
for expanded location based mobile services, and iPhone 2.0 software which
includes support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and runs the hundreds of
third party applications already built with the recently released iPhone SDK.

Rogers Launch Promotions
------------------------
The following Rogers Plus stores in these cities will open their doors at
8:00 a.m. (all times local) on Friday, July 11 for advance purchases of the
Apple iPhone 3G:
Toronto: 112-10 Dundas Street East
Montreal: 1015 rue St. Catherine Ouest
Ottawa: 690 Bank Street
Halifax: Unit 265, 7001 Mumford Road
Calgary: 5244 Falsbridge Gate, NE
Vancouver: 2097 West Broadway

Customers attending launch day events at these Rogers Plus stores will be
treated to a free early bird breakfast and have a chance to win Rogers
Wireless prizes.
Effective July 11, and as a limited time promotional offer for customers
who activate by August 31 on a three year contract, a data-only offering of
6GB of data for $30 per month is being made available that can be added to any
in-market voice plan. For example, with 6GB of data, iPhone 3G users can visit
35,952 web pages, or send and receive 157,286 emails, or watch 6,292 minutes
of YouTube videos each and every month.(xx)
New Canadian iPhone 3G customers will also have the choice to select from
Rogers Wireless' existing voice and smartphone data plans and/or additional
features to best suit their needs, or from Rogers Wireless' value bundled
plans specifically for iPhone 3G. Existing Rogers Wireless customers can keep
their current voice service plan and select a separate data plan to meet their
needs or choose from other plans after checking their individual upgrade
eligibility.
Starting July 11, iPhone 3G will be available at participating locations
across Canada, including select Rogers Plus, Rogers Video, and Rogers Wireless
retail locations and at the following specially selected authorized Rogers
Wireless dealers: WirelessWave, TBooth and Wireless etc. iPhone 3G can also be
purchased online at www.rogers.com and through Rogers' customer service at
1-888-764-3771. For a complete store listing, visit
http://your.rogers.com/mq/mqlocator.asp. Due to anticipated high demand, there
is a maximum purchase of two iPhone 3G per customer.

(*) Based on 3G and EDGE testing. Actual speeds may vary due to a variety
of factors.
(xx) Based on live trials of iPhone 3G on Rogers HSPA network, July 2008

About Rogers Wireless

Rogers Wireless provides wireless voice and data communications services
across Canada to more than 7.4 million customers under both the Rogers
Wireless and Fido brands. Proven to operate Canada's most reliable wireless
voice and data communications network, Rogers Wireless is Canada's largest
wireless provider and the only carrier operating on the global standard GSM
and highly advanced HSPA technology platforms. In addition to providing
seamless roaming in more than 200 countries/areas with its GSM based services,
Rogers Wireless also provides wireless broadband services across Canada,
utilizing its 2.5GHz fixed wireless spectrum. Rogers Wireless is a subsidiary
of Rogers Communications Inc. (TSX: RCI; NYSE: RCI), a diversified Canadian
communications and media company. For further information, please visit
www.rogers.com.


<<
Backgrounder

Average Data Usage on iPhone 3G for Top 25 Internet Properties in Canada

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 25 Total Unique Avg. Data Usage
Properties(*) Visitors (000)(*) (first page)(xx)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Internet:
Total Audience 23,947
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Google Sites 23,141 53 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Microsoft Sites 23,053 360 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Yahoo! Sites 16,361 397 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) FACEBOOK.COM 16,154 51 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) eBay 13,972 385 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Wikipedia Sites 11,528 175 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Yellow Pages Group 10,162 35 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) AOL LLC 10,012 134 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Amazon Sites 8,568 38 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Apple Inc. 8,506 650 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Canoe Network 7,894 235 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) CTVglobemedia 7,835 630 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Fox Interactive Media 7,611 194 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) The Weather Network Meteomedia 7,261 811 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) CNET Networks 7,042 36 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Ask Network 6,966 97 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) New York Times Digital 6,943 654 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Viacom Digital 6,258 671 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) CBC-Radio Canada Sites 5,908 468 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Adobe Sites 5,110 678 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Time Warner - Excluding AOL 5,039 143 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Canwest Digital 4,916 236 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) WhitePages 4,910 30 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) Gorilla Nation 4,826 194 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(P) ROGERS 4,657 593 Kb
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weighted avg = 175 Kb
Simple avg = 318 Kb

(*) Top 25 visited Properties, April 2008, All Locations, comScore, Inc.
(C)
(xx)Rogers Internal iPhone 3G test results, July 2008


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Select Usage Chart of Data Buckets in iPhone 3G Plans
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
Email OR Websites OR Photos OR YouTube
kb used 40 175 300 1000
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------

Bucket Size No. of No. No.
(in MB) text emails of pages of photos (in min)


400 10,240 2,341 1,365 410
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
750 19,200 4,389 2,560 768
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
1024 26,214 5,992 3,495 1,049
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
2048 52,429 11,984 6,991 2,097
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
6144 157,286 35,952 20,972 6,292
-------------------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
>>
Prince1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 02:04 PM   #38
solipsism
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Ansible
Posts: 11,778
As it's been shown in other threads the previous iPhones data packages were a lot better than their pther packages for other phones, but this is on track with AT&T. In fact it's 20% more than AT&T who advertised unlimited but can cap you at 5GB.
solipsism is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 02:45 PM   #39
Virgil-TB2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince View Post
... whole lotta crap ...
Thanks for messing up the thread with a Rogers advertisement. Perhaps you work for them?

On the internet however, there is this thing called a "link" that you might consider using instead.
Virgil-TB2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 02:59 PM   #40
Virgil-TB2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,415
Rogers and fido poorly organised, & not prepared for iPhone

The thing I find interesting about this whole debacle is that Rogers and Fido are both seriously out to lunch when it comes to organising this launch. I mean they have had a year and a half to think about it since the first (mistaken) announcement that the iPhone was coming to Rogers network.

Take today ... many rumours of this new pricing on data, and if you hunt for it, you may find a fixed font (courier!) document from Rogers and Fido that tells you about it in some confusing language. If you go to Rogers or Fidos sites however (two days before launch remember!), you can't find a single link to purchase the iPhone, or a single link that mentions the new data plan.

Wow. Way to get the news out.

Perhaps listing this information under "plans" on the Rogers website might have been more effective?

If you try to purchase a phone through the site, you are not even offered the iPhone as a category of device! I mean sure, it isn't officially for sale yet, but it's only two days to launch! Less even! Prospective customers coming to Canada's two premier cell phone web sites are being basically turned away by the ridiculously confusing and hard to find information.

They should have had info on this for months on their site, I should be able to go and check out a single comprehensible table that lists their plans, but it just isn't there.

There is no better indication of what a dysfunctional company Rogers is than the fact that two days before the launch of what is arguably the biggest product launch in the history of the cell business in Canada, these guys don't even have the details on their website.

What a bunch of maroons! (as bugs would say)

fire the lot of them!
Virgil-TB2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.