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Kasper's Automated Slave
Join Date: Nov 1997
Posts: 6,166
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Server problems spoil Apple's iPhone 3G launch
Apple Inc.'s iPhone 3G roll-out has quickly shifted from the much ballyhooed consumer electronics launch of the year into a nightmare for both the company and its loyal customers.
Thousands of new iPhone 3G buyers around the world were stuck Friday with iPhones that couldn't function or make calls, as the iTunes servers required to fully activate them experienced a high-tech meltdown and ultimately fell offline. The issues almost immediately soured the US launch of the much anticipated handset, as the backlog of activations kept thousands of other customers waiting in long lines outside of retail stores much longer than they or Apple had anticipated. What's more, the problems trickled down to first-generation iPhone owners who were attempting to upgrade their devices with version 2.0 software, also released Friday. Unlike previous updates, the 2.0 release completely wipes all data from first-generation iPhones and deactivates them before performing the upgrade. After installation, the phones are required to connect to Apple's iTunes servers for reactivation -- the same servers that had fallen offline due to requests for new iPhone 3G activations. As such, existing iPhone owners attempting to update their software were also left with phones that were "bricked" and unable to function outside of calling emergency lines. The issues may be a result of Apple underestimating the number of simultaneous worldwide connections to its iTunes servers during the iPhone 3G launch, a problem that wasn't helped by the simultaneous release of new software updates for existing owners that must also access the same servers. Unlike last year, when the Cupertino-based company launched its first-generation iPhone exclusively in the U.S. and then later followed up with successive roll outs in a handful of European countries, this year's launch kicked-off in 21 countries over the course of 24 hours. Attempting to stifle the grey market for iPhones that were being purchased in the U.S., then unlocked and resold overseas at higher prices, Apple also did away with home activation, mandating that each and every new iPhone 3G sold in the U.S. be fully activated before it leaves the store. Apple has also been experiencing a number of problems getting its new set of "MobileMe" online tools up and running. The $99 per year "push" email and calendar service launched early Thursday morning but was still facing a large number of issues outside of email as of Friday afternoon. |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Jersey
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after mobileme crashed, i think apple should have predicted this
I also think it was stupid that the software update and iphone activation use the same server |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 144
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I'm not even getting the error message anymore when I try to update my touch.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 38
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"Attempting to stifle the grey market for iPhones that were being purchased in the U.S., then unlocked and resold overseas at higher prices, Apple also did away with home activation of the handsets this time around, mandating that each and every new iPhone 3G sold in the U.S. be fully activate before it leaves the store."
Care to attribute this? If Apple sells the units, why should it care if they are unlocked or not? It seems as if AT&T has much more of vested interest in this... |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 171
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They should released 2.0 to existing users first...why did they wait. More importantly why didnt they realize this could happen.
Im soooo pissed. My iPhone is dead....and I cant make any calls. Who is up for a little something from Apple to compensate us. |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6
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I don't believe this for a second. Since Apple controls the whole process and knows exactly how many stores would be selling the 3G phone and how many activations will be occurring at each store, they would have known exactly the anticipated load. I think the reason for the screw up lies elsewhere and Apple is hiding behind the "unanticipated demand" cover story.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I've been trying to update my iTouch for 6 hours now and sometimes it tells me that i can't connect to the iTunes store for an unknown error, others its a problem with my network. But at the moment it is saying that 1.1.4 is the current software and i'm not even getting the error message. I think maybe i and other people should try not to constantly click on "check for update", as this may slow the process down even further. I still think it's terrible that everything is run on the same server!!!! Jono |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 171
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Yes...that makes sense.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 795
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EIC- AppleInsider.com
Questions and comments to : kasper@appleinsider.com |
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Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 383
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Glad I did my iPhone 2.0 upgrade yesterday when the sneaky link was posted.
I managed to download the updater and do the install and activation in minutes. It is the same build as well so looks like it was the correct link. I have been playing Super Monkey Ball and the ace Bejewelled 2 which is just stunning. The Push mail servers only just appear to have come to life and you can now access the new Web Apps at www.me.com even though the www.mac.com still says they are down! |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 15
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Maybe Apple just go next door and ask Google for some sugar aka. some servers
I know it doesn't work like that, but it is just a funny visual.This thing is frustrating because I some apps just sitting and waiting to be downloaded onto my touch, but hey its just a piece of software. |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 3
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Just finally got my new iphone working. around 3PM EST, after trying for 5 hours!!!! But I'm glad I'm done with the hassle
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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I just activated my 3G iPhone at home. The first attempt timed out but the second completed with no problem. |
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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EIC- AppleInsider.com
Questions and comments to : kasper@appleinsider.com |
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 570
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2008 is the year when Apple F**ked up virtually everything, from delivering less iPhone features than expected, to Mobile-Me launch problems, to major Leopard 10.5.3 problems, to the embarrassing ongoing Leopard Server problems, and now to this iTunes overload problem during their big iPhone release.
I don't know what's going on, but since Apple has gotten into the iPhone market their Macs and their Quality Control has taken a stupendous hit. Gosh I don't remember Microsoft having that much bad-luck all at once! |
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5
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Hi, here in Mexico City, since 9:00 AM this friday mobile me was up and running, a little bit slow though. As for iphone, no way i'm getting it due to the high costs telcel, the mexican carrier, has set.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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-Rolf |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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At&t
Its actually nice to see that AT&T had nothing to do with todays hiccups. I cant believe that Apple dev couldnt accurately predict the amount of server traffic and I completely agree with the other post asking why did these two key components run on the same server.
iTunes unbricking for 3G customers is now back up for anyone trying to tether from home. |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4
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I've got friends living in GDL and DF and said that they were be able to use prepaid for the iPhone. How true is that?
-= Give me wings, that I might fly =-
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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A true iDisaster! Was on line at an AT&T store on Long Island and waited for 7 hours but was unable to buy one, even though they had them in stock. The lines were not long and we were told they had enough for everyone in the line. Then they stopped allowing people to purchase the phones because they could not get them activated. In addition they told people they don't advice standing in line because they weren't sure when the system would be back up since the problem was on Apples end, what a rotten apple!
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 182
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Gee... sounds like Blizzard launching World of Warcraft back in 04.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
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Some free apps would be nice (the ones that actually cost money)
MacBook 2.1Ghz
iPhone 3G 8GB Black |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London / San Fransisco
Posts: 61
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Apple sure did cock things up!
Fingers crossed my iPhone will finally start working after being bricked for 5 hours!
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Jersey (new)
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*OK, unconscionable is probably the wrong word. How about idiotic? lame brained? Ballmeresque?
Progress is a comfortable disease
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Jersey
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They actually released the update yesterday for edge iphone users, but ipod touch users could not use it because we would have to wait until today and pay $9.99 for it, but now apple has completely shut down there update servers and iTunes tells me that 1.1.4 is the current verison when i try to update
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8
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it just worked first try!
I was hesitent to move to 2.0 until just before the article here warned users to wait. It was too late to stop it and then it went straight to activation and had no hang ups at all! Yea!
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Location: New England
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bay Area, California
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Predicting network traffic isn't the only part of surviving this sort of thing. All it takes is some unexpected hardware failures, or other odd variables coming into play -- a very real issue when scaling to something like this, a scenario with demands quite unlike what was known before -- and everything can start to fall apart. I'll wager this is what happened in the background at Apple.
This is why I didn't go to get an iPhone today. There was bound to be some kind of trouble or another, while people who walk in later this weekend, or next week, are probably going to have a great experience. Apple just needs some time to sort everything out. I am surprised that they launched everything simultaneously though. That was just asking for trouble. At least they should have made 2.0 available a day or two prior to balance the load. I'll wager, though, that this was a corporate decision. The only likely alternative would have been to make 2.0 available after the launch. I imagine Apple wanted the 2.0 experience to be known only on the launch date of the new iPhone. That they did it all at once, though... it makes me think they did have a pretty solid system in place. It is more likely that some unexpected developments brought about this trouble than a simple lack of planning on Apple's part.
“The true measure of a man is how he treats someone that can do him absolutely no good.”
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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So how big is this thread going to get with privileged people complaining.
Apple sured screwed up your life and wasted your time. I hope they find away to compensate you. Your wounds need the soothing touch of a refund or a credit or a spaghetti dinner made by steve. I mean really. How dare they not be able to handle the request of 2 million people at the same time. And then make you wait before you can run your mouth or play business. I mean, they should have known that this was going to happen. They did it on purpose. I think they just want your money. Shame on Apple. Shame on them! ![]() |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Clovis, California
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Apple and AT&T have to be taken to task for this, Apple moreso, because they messed up MobileMe as well.
They both learned nothing from last year, Apple talks big, but they should've put their profits into buying more activation servers, either that, or people are simply going to have to put up with it (which will be the case). I wonder if they'll get it right, next year. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I understand that not having access to paid services such as MobileMe and your awesome new iPhone is frustrating but I think some patients and understanding are in order. And there is no way that Apple's mistakes can be compared to Microsoft's blunders. I wanted to update my iPod Touch but was unable to because of all the server issues. Its a bummer but nothing to get angry about. I'll just try later tonight or tomorrow. And let the flaming begin... |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: VR6
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"Some of us are decent people who want to stay out of the emergency room, but still
blast through neo-gridlock traffic in residential districts whenever we feel like it.... For that we need fine Machinery." -Dr. Hunter S. Thompson |
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But if you say it's so, then maybe it is... |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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I am afraid that Apple has followed Microsoft's idiotic path on that one.
Microsoft tried to save "tens" of millions of dollars by designing the chipset themselves (which they have no expertise in) --- cost them a billion dollars in the long run. Apple just bought a chipset company (mainly for their engineers) --- I can just see them trying to save "ten" of millions of dollars by designing the chipset themselves. |
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"Some of us are decent people who want to stay out of the emergency room, but still
blast through neo-gridlock traffic in residential districts whenever we feel like it.... For that we need fine Machinery." -Dr. Hunter S. Thompson |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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Picked up mine about 8:45am Pacific time today from ATT. ATT rep at the store told me we'd have to activate it at home using iTunes. I let my phone sit connected to iTunes for about an hour and it finally managed to activate itself. It seems if you just leave it alone, it will continuously try to activate itself provided you don't lick OK on the error message (seemed that way to me anyway).
Though the iTunes store seems to be a bit slow still (trying to purchase apps, login, etc). |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Is anyone having any trouble with moving mail to other mailboxes.
Whenever I try to move mail into another mailbox I get a message box saying the message couldn't be moved. I'm using Yahoo mail. I could move messages prior to updating to 2.0, and mass moving of messages is a new feature. What's happening here? |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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A trend?
I have been purchasing Apple products since 1991. My first Mac was a Classic. I purchased a new iMac when they were recently refreshed. I received two faulty iMacs in a row that I had to return and the third I had to reinstall the OS before it worked correctly. My iPhone 1.0 is only seven months old and is already having battery problems. Today's release of iPhone 2.0 has been a failure to say the least. My concern is that this may be Apple's new way of operating and it reminds me too much of many of the Windows compatible products. Just thinking out loud.
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