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Kasper's Automated Slave
Join Date: Nov 1997
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MobileMe users hit by phishing scam
A scammer is targeting MobileMe users with an email purporting to be from Apple. The email claims there are problems with the user's subscription renewal information, and directs them to a web site that asks them to reenter their credit card information.
The email (below) appears to come from no-reply@me.com, and looks fleetingly like something Apple might send, although the outdated graphics come from .Mac marketing materials. Rather than directing users to login to their actual account at me.com and enter the SSL-protected accounts detail area, the phishing email links to a fraud site at http://natwestbgroups.com/www.apple.com/update.html. That domain name was registered just three weeks ago from Name.com, a registrar in Hong Kong to "Pak Groups." The DNS registration for the domain points to Madih-ullah Riaz in Karachi, Pakistan, and cites a phone number and Microsoft Live Hotmail address. Following the link takes users to a site that resembles Apple's site (below), in part because it directly uses Apple's graphics, JavaScripts, and CSS stylesheets to draw the page. The fake site also cites Apple's real customer service phone number and links to other legitimate pages. However, clicking on 'continue' draws a dysfunctional verification page (below) and forwards any entered information to the scammer, identified as "Jude" by the webhost. The actual domain hosting the fraud site was laid out using Microsoft's FrontPage entry level web editing tool. Users should always pay special attention to the URL specified by any hyperlinks in emails they receive. The best way to avoid being scammed is to manually type in the URL of the site you wish to visit, as it is possible to spoof URL listings in the browser just like the fake "from" address in the email above. Hovering over the email link in Mail would reveal that it does not link to Apple.com, but rather a fraudulent website (below). |
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Join Date: May 2006
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Already been done, blogged, and resolved with Apple. This is just an update to the same old email.
http://blog.joelesler.net/2008/07/ma...t-aint-so.html |
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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I posted some info with colorful language just for kicks.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Nat West is a large UK bank. Sounds like this guy had another target in mind when he registered that domain.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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I wouldn't fall for that
look at the URL. It's not Apple.com. |
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The only current fix is informing users. One interesting possibility in Google Chrome is the new malware/phishing API; it would allow Mail and Safari to plug into updates from Google and throw up dynamic warnings as new scams were discovered. I don't really want Apple setting up filters that try to catch phish so I "don't have to," for the same reason I don't want Apple maintaining my entire spam filter. What about false positives? "Solutions" to spam and phish are easy to think up but difficult to implement. |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 98
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Who needs URL tracking? Look at the first sentence in the email: "Thank you for choosing Mobileme." The second "m" isn't capitalized! Why would anyone read any farther into the text with that sure-fire reveal?
Phishers aren't known for their good grammar, mechanics, and usage. |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Ansible
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I hope that Apple puts anti-phishing back into Safari. I know it was only beta, but it's one of the reasons I recommend FF to people on Macs who aren't very internet savvy. Some understand what a URL is pretty quickly, some don't. As stated, it doesn't replace knowledge, but it is extra protection and one that can help to educate the end user when they wonder why they have weird screen instead of the website they were expecting.
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This system is pain free and works for me personally and my business. If I loose the occasional sale it is easily made up for by the time I save not worrying. Because of good filtering spam is a non issue for me. Any request for anything including personal info from banks, eBay, isp's etc goes in the bin regardless. They have my phone number if they are serious. |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I thought MobileMe already filtered out junk email? I stopped receiving junk mail on my 'Mac account about 18 months ago. Funnily enough, when Apple were experiencing problems with the transition to MobileMe I started getting junk for a few days. Haven't received anything since.
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"dear mobile me user it has come to our attention that someone is sending out a fake email claiming to be from Apple and asking for personal financial information. This email did NOT come from Apple. Any information provided on the pages linked in the email will not go to Apple but to a theft. For your own safety, any time you receive an email from any company asking for any kind of personal information, especially financial, you should always go to the company's website by typing in the site address yourself (do not follow any links in the email), logging in and proceeding. This includes but is not limited to: Apple, your bank, your credit card companies, sites you shop such as Amazon. if you have any questions, please contact Apple Support. Thank you" or something similar. |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Boise, ID among others
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Stupid
I don't understand how people could be drawn into this. Disregarding the obviously invalid domain, I thought even novice users by know would be extremely skeptical of any email sent to them about needing "updated billing information" or whatever. They should always be taught to *NEVER* CLICK ON AN EMAIL LINK TO GO TO A COMMERCIAL WEBSITE! Always type in the web address!
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But what I think is extremely clever, is that the scammers have picked a service from a vendor that has suffered a lot of reliability issues of late. The MobileMe fiasco has been well documented. If I received an email from 'Apple', my initial thought wouldn't be 'is this really from Apple', but rather 'Apple's fcuked up my MobileMe account AGAIN'. You wouldn't fall for a phishing email from your 'bank', but I think you could be forgiven for falling for an email from a 'service provider' that has suffered so many technical issues of late – and this is the true measure of just how badly the MobileMe fiasco has hurt Apple's brand. I suspect that those chickens are only now starting to come home to roost.
When Steve Jobs wants to hear your opinion - he'll give it to you...
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So if the timings right and your under pressure then it can be easy to catch anybody out. Embarrasing for me because I am an Internet markeing/development manager and should have known better ![]() |
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I totally understand where you're coming from – every time I hear of a phishing scam, a part of me thinks 'damn, I would have fallen for that'. Ebay sent me a similar email, and I said no, I wasn't going to update my details because there was no way that they could prove to me that 'they' weren't phishing me. They proved it by banning me from Ebay. Nice.
When Steve Jobs wants to hear your opinion - he'll give it to you...
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Join Date: May 2008
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maaan... I didn't get the email, I feel left out
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However, I am not aware of Apple making such mistakes, so the missing apostrophe and typo in the request for 'Mothers Maiden Nane' should ring alarm bells ![]() |
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Location: Philadelphia
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The "Get Started with .Mac Now" seems to be another obvious one. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in a strange land, waiting on my King to come and establish His Kingdom!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Sadly apple doesn't have a very good record when it comes to observing anti-fraud-educating URL practices.
They quite happily link people to URLs such as: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.ne...ent/index.html (Linked from: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/article...wsf/index.html) This practice does not educate consumers and there are plenty more examples of the like from them over recent years.
It's what I do.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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The best solution is to never give your personal info out when asked. Period. If someone emails you or even calls do not give anything out. Instead call the company using a telephone number that you know. There is no browser that offers better security than a little common sense provides, including Chrome. If a user can't defend themselves from these feeble attempts to steal their money, then they really should not be doing business on the internet, they should go to a brick and mortar store where the cashier is keeping their credit card number :-) Why should we have to wade through all the security pop-ups because some people have no common sense?
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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get the source
Why can't these scammers be tracked down and brought to justice? It's like there's a sniper out there and all we're told to do is to "put on a bullet-proof vest and be careful out there". If they are ultimately getting people's credit card info and using it, isn't there enough of a trail to reach the perpetrators of these crimes so that they can be dealt with as the criminals that they are? Getting tough with these phishers and scammers seems like it would go a long way in deterring others from following their same criminal behavior.
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Join Date: May 2006
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http://www.opendns.com is your best option if you use Safari as I do. You can say goodbye to these types of phishing attacks. If you use Firefox and OpenDns together then you will have two layers of anti-phishing protection.
Besides anti-phishing protection, your web surfing will be much faster and it's all free.
Switching From Windows on Nov. 30th 2007
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South West Florida
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Nor me! This is discrimination!!
Used all Apples from Apple][ through 8 Core Mac Pro
http://www.digitalclips.com |
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You'd think that was the answer wouldn't you! My wife and I have a couple of condos we rent out. One recently was rented by a guy in UK who came across the condo on a well known vacation rental web site as most of our bookings do. It wasn't until we got the e-mail explaining we would receive a check for more than he owed from a third party and asking us to 'wire using Western Union the extra to him did' we see it was a scammer. I called the FBI and a nice guy said there was nothing they could do till after we were scammed! The FBI guy told me that this scam goes on day in day out and work because the funds do show up in your bank after depositing the check due to the way banks work. Only after the suckers wire the excess do they learn the funds were not really in their account. He said there are insiders in Western Union and Banks in on these scams too. I was in disbelief of this until a friend here in Florida who runs a fishing boat charter admitted he was taken for $7,000 by this exact scam, again interestingly by a British based operation. FBI told me: Never wire excess payments. Also do not even cash such a check and if you get such a check hold it and call FBI. Only accept the correct amount.
Used all Apples from Apple][ through 8 Core Mac Pro
http://www.digitalclips.com Last edited by digitalclips; 09-08-2008 at 10:14 AM.. |
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couldn't tell you what Numa Numa is, and have never heard of phishing, much less how the computer in their home is gateway to losing any might they might have left. Class action? Quote:
Situation: Guy sees car engine on eBay for sale in Key West at a great price. A 'too good to be true' price. He contacts the seller. They talk about any forth on email. Then they move to using the phone. Friend wants to see the engine first and is willing to drive from Sarasota to Key West to see it. The seller says he is Miami right now and wants to make sure the buyer is on the up and up. In other words, has the funds available. The seller says he can use Western Union to send the money to himself, so it's under the buyer's name, not the sellers. So the seller can confirm the money is in this makeshift escrow account just email him the WU number that he got and he look verify it online. The seller was kind enough to only half of the $1,400 in 'escrow'. Result: Within an hour the money was gone. It was pulled out of a WU kiosk by the seller. If the funds are under $1000 they don't require an ID. You can check a box for this that is hidden within the convoluted page you fill out, but it's not made obvious.
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"The DNS registration for the domain points to Madih-ullah Riaz in Karachi, Pakistan" Second, I'm guessing that either this guy's website was hacked and is being used by someone else for this purpose, or someone spoofed his name when registering that domain. The person behind a scam this elaborate isn't likely stupid enough to use a domain which leads directly back to them.
It's a world full of people
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Interestingly, if the user was to click and be using IE7 or IE8 beta then more than likely the phish filter would have prevented any 'damage'
some phish attacks recently seem to have purposely attacked targets where a browser other than IE is likely to be used for this very reason. oh and btw you would be amazed what some people will actually click on! |
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And in other news.... <Any bank name here> users hit by phishing scam.
This happens a thousand times a day... |
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If it will make you feel better, you can send me your full name, date and place of birth, social security number, mother's maiden name, high school attended and 3-4 valid credit card numbers with the 3 digit security code.
I'll even sign you up for a free year of Mobile Me and as a Thank You, a brand new iPod touch delivered direct to your door! ![]() (this is a joke peeps) |
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The rule of 1% applies here.
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I used to work for a retail bookstore and we had a run of attempts on a scam ourselves. it was really rather clever. we saw it from the first time and contacted all of the other chains to warn them (yes we were nice and helped out our competition). but we figure somewhere someone fell for it. oh and then there's all those emails about being a political enemy and please help me hide my money. I have a friend that loves to get those and answers them. but takes the other side through hell in the process. it's funny |
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perhaps the answer to your question is to do something about instilling that common sense in folks. that sweet little old lady next door got her first computer so she can talk to the grandkids across the country. why not go over one afternoon with a nice bundt cake and set her down for a little talk. or even offer to go talk to her bridge club. I'm sure that she'd be happy to have that nice young man -- remember him, he used to mow my grass for me when he was younger -- explain a few things about the internet and how to not get scammed by the not so nice young men. I've done it several times. used to work with the local public library on meetings about identity protection, protecting kids on the internet etc. |
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1. Always have a throw away e-mail address to use for uncertain sites. 2. when asked to login & change account information for any web service always manually visit site & login, then navigate to accounts manually. 3. always double check links in an e-mail, you can put any text over the link you want. 4. Never trust personal information to social networking sites. You may be careful but your friends may not be. 5. Always be suspicious of "free". Nothing in life is free, there is a cost to be paid, though sometimes it's not you that pays it. 6. Learn how to use resources like truthorfiction.com or snopes.com 7. Keep a different password for social sites vs passwords used for more important things like banking. 8. Be paranoid about presentation quality, spammer e-mails are often ugly cause they're thrown together. Companies put a lot of money behind PR, they don't make mistakes often. 9. weigh your budget, it might be well worth it to pay for identity theft insurance. 10. USE A Mac! Vast majority of identity theft still occurs through malware, & all of that is for PC. Probably could add a few but these 10 will eliminate almost all chance of being taken by these scams. |
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