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Apple developing always-on iPhone status indicators
Apple has conceptualized a means of displaying icon-like status indicators on the iPhone's displays even when the handset is locked and the backlight turned off, a new company filing shows.
The Cupertino-based electronics maker notes that a traditional way of conserving energy on handheld devices is to turn off a display when the user does not need or want to view media. However, this approach may make it difficult or impossible for a user to determine the status of the device or identify any pending notifications without first having to turn the unit on. To address the problem, Apple proposes the implementation of a dual backlight system, where a secondary, low-power backlight system would be positioned behind the primary backlight system. The always-on light provided by the secondary backlight system could then be projected through one or more transparent or semitransparent regions of the primary backlight system to reach the display even when the primary backlight is turned off. "The primary backlight system may block light from the secondary backlight system except for those one or more regions," the filing explains. "Thus, the size and shape of the status indicator may be set by sizing and shaping the transparent or semitransparent regions of the primary backlight system. In addition to setting the size and shape of the icon, the color of the icon may also be set by adjusting the color of the light provided by the secondary backlight system." By this method, Apple could provide iPhone users with any number of colored status icons to represent anything from a new text message or email, to missed calls or a low battery warning. The light source within the secondary backlight system could also be turned on and off to create a blinking effect, or the intensity of the light may be varied through pulse-width-modulation. Therefor, users would be able to determine whether they missed a call or communication without touching their iPhone, which may be positioned on a table or other surface that's within sight but not necessarily in a user's hand. Users would also be able to simply glance at their iPhone when out and about to check its status without having to switch on the LCD display. Apple explains that in some implementations, multiple status indicator icons may be displayed at substantially the same location on the display. To vary the shape or size of each indicator, the shape and size of the color filters may be varied rather than the shape and size of the transparent or semitransparent regions of the primary backlight system. This could be accomplished by taking color filters of different shapes and with different properties and superimposing them on each other. Thus, the shape of an icon on the display would depend on the color of light provided by the secondary backlight -- a technique that may also be used for icons that are displayed side-by-side. In terms of blinking or pulsating icons, each status indicator provided by the iPhone, whether located at different locations on a display or at substantially the same location, may be associated with light having particular properties. "For example, each indicator may have a particular color, blinking speed, or light intensity. These properties may be programmed into the electronic device by the user, or may be hard-coded or hard-wired into the system," Apple said. "Thus, when the secondary backlight is turned on, the properties of the light provided by the secondary backlight system may depend on the status of the device. Also, if the status of the electronic device changes while the secondary backlight is on, the properties of the light provided by the secondary backlight system may change to reflect the new status." The 24-page filing, published for the first time this week by the United States Patent and Trademark Office, is credited to Apple engineer Michael Rosenblatt. |
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Yayyy, first reply and nice idea. Can't wait to see when it happens
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An idea so simple yet not thought of before. Typical of Apple ingenuity.
However, a patent? C'mon! |
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Most phone have some type of indicator led that shows when a call or a messages is missed. Am I missing something?
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So the dim one would remain on so that the phone could get your attention. Much like Moto's phones where it beeps until you acknowledge it. However, this would be much less annoying and also use minimal battery to display.
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Um... why all the worry about how to make things transparent? Why not just put it up in the same place where the light sensor is? No need to put it behind the LCD.
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Interesting idea but I wonder how they're going to prevent screen burn?
I know Nokia phones already do something similar to this but the indicator screen is B&W and the indicator moves around the screen to prevent screen burn. |
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This is a robust and informative solution, not just a dumb indicator light.
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Isn't this inherantly a possibility with LED backlights?
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of course they would want to patent it. all companies will do this, not just apple. to protect the ability to do something. the last thing Apple wants is to start this project and then have it patented by the folks behind the Android and suddenly they can't add it without licensing etc. And while the idea might seem simple, executing it properly may not be which is why it is just happening now. and if it is optional, I say great, go for it. but I for one don't want my phone to glow with alerts all the time. if I am expecting a message, sure I might turn it on. but most of the time I'm happy to miss a call for a bit. my world isn't about my phone. if it is an emergency they will call back or try another line. two quick vibrates in my pocket and I'll pull it out to see who it is. |
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Why can't you put a robust and innovative solution to the right or lefto f the home button, or to the right of the ear hole, instead of behind the screen?
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actually if I read the concept correctly they are talking about only when the phone is sleeping. when the phone is active, you would see nothing other than the typical alerts. if this is something that is going to be behind everything I do then I better be able to turn it off. I don't want some stupid little ghost icons floating around while I'm trying to email etc. I will know that I missed a call cause that will cut in and make me decline it anyway. |
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Apple values form over function way too much. Put an LED on the thing like everyone else and be done with it. While they're at it, they should add another two buttons for the phone. The swiping your finger thing got old after the first day.
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A single LED light is not even close to being more functional than a display with text, images and colours displaying various data.
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Perhaps not another button, but added use for a button for voice dialing would be nice. For example, holing down the sleep button or home button for 2 seconds to enable the mic for voice dialing. However, these seem clunky to me. I think a better solution would be to put an additional button under the volume controls on the side.
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a single light displaying a single colour at a time can't display complex data.
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1) push the power or home button 2) swipe the screen 3) select the phone app 4) select the phone number (recents or dial pad) 5) make the call call WAY too many steps for me, when I could just push ONE button if available. If you are in the habit of accidentally hitting the call button, then they should add a way to disable it. If you like a phone that scratches the second you look at it, yeah I guess it's gorgeous. I'd rather have one that stands up better to everyday use, without the need for a clumsy case. |
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Better yet, when you select the phone app, before a number or a contact has actually been chosen, the proximity sensor indicates you have the phone next to your ear and that you want to say the name/number rather than select if from the list of contacts.
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forget get all this
They could just go with OLED and not have to worry about any of this. As there is no need for a backlight. It is entirely possible to light each pixel separately.
Would be cool. You're mail icon would light up if you have a message. It could even bounce like on a desktop dock. You could have full screen animations for alerts. All without having to turn on and off a backlight. Last edited by m2002brian; 11-20-2008 at 02:25 PM.. |
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You can't get screen burn on an LCD panel.
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The iPhone doesn't scratch easily. My wife keeps hers in her purse and there isn't a scratch on it. |
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Complaining? Really?
I don't see this as anything but a great innovative idea. Think of it like the touchscreen scenario for buttons: if you have a great idea for phone alerts, you can't glue on a new LED light after the phones have shipped. Make it all about software, poof! software update and you have a new smart alert for your already purchased phone.
I see this as adding a smart, complex alert system without adding another physical light system to the phone's already crowded motherboard. How is this bad? Omg, I can't see my 3.5" screen as easily as a blinking LED. I have some cheese for you. |
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This is something they should patent. And will easily get if in fact it hasn't been done before.
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Yet another reason I'm glad I still haven't bothered with the iPhone. The problem is that while the iPod was a completely new invention and therefore nobody was expecting any particular functionality out of it, people are used to phones working in a specific way. Apple didn't seem to do much research into what people like about their mobile phones and have therefore rather ignorantly done their own thing and missed off some rather important features that most phone users take for granted. This appears to be yet another one of those features sadly missing. Last edited by jowie74; 11-21-2008 at 06:22 AM.. |
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PS: The market was new and small, but the iPod wasn't close to being the first PMP on the market. PPS: My typing is flying with v2.2. WOOT!
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But why are they going to all this trouble, when all they need to do (in the mean time) is just put some information up on the screen when the backlight is off?
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PS: Apple patented the Dock, so this looking like a pretty good patent to me.
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