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Old 01-19-2009, 02:15 PM   #1
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Steve Jobs to stand for re-election to Disney's board

Although complicated health issues have forced Steve Jobs into a 6 month leave from Apple, he's seemingly confident in his ability to serve on Disney's Board of Directors, where he'll be standing for reelection come March.

Jobs has been a member of Disney's board ever since the entertainment conglomerate purchased Pixar back in the spring of 2006. At the time, his 50.6 percent controlling stake in the animation studio netted him more than $4 billion in Disney shares, making him the company's largest shareholder.

The Apple co-founder receives no compensate for his role at Disney, where he's also believed to serve as a special advisor to chief executive and close personal friend Bob Iger on technology-related matters.

However, Jobs’ decision to stand for re-election to the Disney board just days after stepping aside at Apple is drawing some concern from corporate governance experts, according to the Financial Times.

"A directorship is not an honorary position,” Charles Elson, professor of corporate governance at the University of Delaware, told the paper. "If he’s said he can’t run Apple, how on earth can he [stand for the Disney board again]?”

Elson added that non-executive directors of large public companies need to be able to devote at least 250 hours a year to the position.

Disney, which reportedly declined to comment on Jobs' decision to seek another term as a board member, has been one of Apple's stalwart allies in its efforts to push video content into the digital age.

Prior to purchasing Pixar, Disney inked a landmark deal to sell its hit ABC television shows over iTunes and later followed up as the first major Hollywood studio to commit its movie library to the digital download service. Since then, Disney has gone on to sell millions of movies and tens of millions of TV shows through iTunes.

In related news, Bloomberg on Friday cited "people who are monitoring [Jobs'] illness" as saying he is considering a liver transplant as a result of complications that followed his pancreatic cancer treatment in 2004.

When reached by phone, Jobs refused to comment further on his health and pleaded for some privacy.

"Why don’t you guys leave me alone -- why is this important?," he told Bloomberg.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:28 PM   #2
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Got to be a good sign, though. Right?

If a liver transplant were genuinely on the cards he'd have to have had the Reality Distortion Field turned all the way up to eleven to not want to break from Disney too. Right?
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:30 PM   #3
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WALL-E was embarrassing


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Old 01-19-2009, 02:31 PM   #4
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I love his quote. "Why don’t you guys leave me alone"

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:32 PM   #5
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I was disappointed in this too following Ratatouille.

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:39 PM   #6
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I love his quote. "Why don’t you guys leave me alone"

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Old 01-19-2009, 02:42 PM   #7
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Really? I thought it was a wonderful piece. Perhaps a bit long-running for the story it told, but something special nevertheless.


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Old 01-19-2009, 02:43 PM   #8
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Why do you say that- it was one of the most cirically acclaimed films of last year.


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"A directorship is not an honorary position,” Charles Elson, professor of corporate governance at the University of Delaware, told the paper. "If he’s said he can’t run Apple, how on earth can he [stand for the Disney board again]?”
This is why we don't let professors out into the real world, or let them handle sharp knives or complicated machinery.

I can't believe the inability to understand the stress and strains of duty for a CEO vs. a guy sitting on a board.
This is even worse than I would expect from a professor, but I guess the University of Delaware must be really weak in their business degree department.

I hope his students get a discount.....
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:57 PM   #10
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respectfully, you really thought it was embarrassing? but how come?

i thought wall-e was a very well executed comedy and adventure sans dialogue until the climax of the story. it was captivating for many other adults and children, and it was not necessary to understand english to follow the story.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:59 PM   #11
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I was disappointed in this too following Ratatouille.

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On the contrary- I thought Ratatouille rather juvenile and derivative.
Wall-E on the other hand was rather insightful and provocative.


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Old 01-19-2009, 03:08 PM   #13
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"A directorship is not an honorary position,” Charles Elson, professor of corporate governance at the University of Delaware, told the paper. "If he’s said he can’t run Apple, how on earth can he [stand for the Disney board again]?”

He'll stand Elson........and later this year he'll stand down as Apples CEO,an become Chairman of Apples Board.

Elson added that non-executive directors of large public companies need to be able to devote at least 250 hours a year to the position.

Gee.... less than and 1 hour a day Elson .....that's tuff huh
....then go to lunch.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:11 PM   #14
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This is why we don't let professors out into the real world, or let them handle sharp knives or complicated machinery.

I can't believe the inability to understand the stress and strains of duty for a CEO vs. a guy sitting on a board.
This is even worse than I would expect from a professor, but I guess the University of Delaware must be really weak in their business degree department.

I hope his students get a discount.....
Reminds me of a Prof that was trying to teach us how become wealthy.
Course he was only makin about 25,000 teaching....
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:12 PM   #15
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Something doesn't add up

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In related news, Bloomberg on Friday cited "people who are monitoring [Jobs'] illness" as saying he is considering a liver transplant as a result of complications that followed his pancreatic cancer treatment in 2004.

When reached by phone, Jobs refused to comment further on his health and pleaded for some privacy.

"Why don’t you guys leave me alone -- why is this important?," he said.

I have the same age as Steve Jobs, just 2 months younger. His pancreatic cancer, together with 58 year old actor Patrick Swaze's own pancreatic cancer, got me thinking on how fragile life is.

Steve Jobs was born the same year as myself. Even though he is a billionnaire and a legend, Steve Jobs' life was turned around overnight by pancreatic cancer. Just imagine the pain, the anguish, the 9 month's wait before the first surgery in 2004, the second, secret would be surgery in 2008 and, now, a third surgery that could involve a liver transplant.

Am I the only one to equate a liver transplant with a desperate situation? Am I the only one to believe that Steve Jobs could be dead within 2 years? If the situation is so serious, why doesn't Apple, Steve Jobs and Disney stop the pretense?

I would have wished for Steve Jobs to retire and enjoy the tremendous wealth he has gained. His retirement is well deserved and he could leave Apple with the recognition that he has done everything that he could do for Apple. Instead, the half truths, and the pretense that he will come back, that he will get elected to the Apple and the Disney Board of directors.

Something just doesn't add up.


P.S.: Maybe, it's the Bloomberg report which is inaccurate.

P.P.S.: On further thinking, some heart and lung transplant patients can live 20 or 25 years. This would be the difference between cancer and transplant patients. A transplant patient could die from an infection, but otherwise, his life expectancy could go beyond the 2 to 5 years of cancer patients. I wish Steve Jobs well. May he enjoy a peaceful and long retirement.



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Old 01-19-2009, 03:16 PM   #16
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I loved Wall-E!
Although I wished the whole movie was more like the first part and did away with all the humans that was introduced in the latter half.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:20 PM   #17
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I am not sure I would go that far but it definitely was the worst movie Pixar has done to date.

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Old 01-19-2009, 03:32 PM   #18
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Leave .....Me .....Alone!!!

I would have wished for Steve Jobs to retire and enjoy the tremendous wealth he has gained. His retirement is well deserved and he could leave Apple with the recognition that he has done everything that he could do for Apple. Instead, the half truths, and the pretense that he will come back, that he will get elected to the Apple and the Disney Board of directors.


He is enjoying his wealth NOW! He does what he wants when he wants and has enough wealth to say F*uk you. He ain't gonna lay on no beach. He runs a mulit million dollar company. He creates, he innovates Apple is Disneyland for him. He was a millionare when he left Apple the first time.
Wad he do..... start another company.
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:49 PM   #19
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WALL-E was a success nevertheless: http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0910970 #37 on the top250 on IMDB.. that's pretty amazing
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steve no retire

He is enjoying his wealth NOW! He does what he wants when he wants and has enough wealth to say F*uk you. He ain't gonna lay on no beach. He runs a mulit million dollar company. He creates, he innovates Apple is Disneyland for him. He was a millionare when he left Apple the first time.
Wad he do..... start another company.
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same here that's what I think Steve is. He's not the sitting around relaxing retirement kind of person. He likes to work!
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:07 PM   #21
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I am as big of an Apple fan as the next guy, but I think it's horrible of Appleinsider to have attempted to extract a statement from Jobs. The man deserves some privacy. I thought the mac community was more genteel than this.
It says Bloomberg contacted him not anyone from AI.

I think the NYT article is appalling. Presidents, celebrities etc all have a right to personal privacy at the very least concerning such personal matters as their own life.

Assume for a second that he had a recurrence of cancer, would anyone want the press knocking down his door when he is coming to terms with the fact he would die? To harass someone who has achieved so much, in their time of grief or recovery is just plain sick.

People who claim they have a right to know simply because they have a shareholding in the company are equally if not more sick. Just because you gamble away some of your money doesn't give you part ownership of an individual.

If Jobs never came back, Apple wouldn't shut their doors and close down. The worst that's going to happen is that the stock price takes a bit of a hit and that's the risk you take when you gamble with your money. Nobody owes you a safety net.
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This is why we don't let professors out into the real world, or let them handle sharp knives or complicated machinery.

I can't believe the inability to understand the stress and strains of duty for a CEO vs. a guy sitting on a board.
This is even worse than I would expect from a professor, but I guess the University of Delaware must be really weak in their business degree department.

I hope his students get a discount.....
Right on!
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Old 01-19-2009, 04:42 PM   #23
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Am I the only one to equate a liver transplant with a desperate situation? Am I the only one to believe that Steve Jobs will be dead within the next 2 years? If the situation is so serious, why doesn't Apple, Steve Jobs and Disney stop the pretense?
I only know this from watching House, but they don't give livers out lightly. To me it seems like a good sign, there is no way they would give a liver to somebody who would be dead in two years.


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I love his quote. "Why don’t you guys leave me alone"

Found this on the 9to5 site.
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He is the largest individual shareholder in the company, and has a tremendous amount of his wealth tied up in it (indeed, probably much more than his wealth from Apple). He therefore has a direct interest in oversight of the company.

As such, his interests are perfectly aligned with those of other Disney shareholders. Why the heck would a shareholder not want him on the board?

The fact that this is even a story -- with vacuous comments from so-called experts -- is astounding to me.
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Btw, on the ethics of Bloomberg journalists on the issue of Steve Jobs see this excellent Fortune blog: http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...ned-to-a-rock/

Don't forget, these are the same folks - Bloomberg - who published SJ's obituary last August......
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This describes how I view the majority of your posts.
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Am I the only one to believe that Steve Jobs will be dead within the next 2 years?
No. You are the only one who believes Jobs is a bad CEO because he doesn't have a
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On the contrary- I thought Ratatouille rather juvenile and derivative.
Wall-E on the other hand was rather insightful and provocative.
I would fully agree with that statement.
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On the contrary- I thought Ratatouille rather juvenile and derivative.
Wall-E on the other hand was rather insightful and provocative.
i havent seen either of these movies but i totally agree with you.
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On the contrary- I thought Ratatouille rather juvenile and derivative.
Wall-E on the other hand was rather insightful and provocative.
Exactly. The thing I like about Pixar movies is that they seem to get better when watched again. I wasn't too excited about Cars, but my son lives it and breathes it. I find I like it more now after seeing it or parts of it 20+ times.
My second viewing of Ratatouille confirmed my disappointment in the movie. It was fine, but I don't want to see it again.
The jury is still out on Wall-E but my second viewing was quite enjoyable. My biggest problem with Wall-E was that the tone seemed to shift between childish and light and adult and cautionary as if it were two different movies melded together...


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Am I the only one to equate a liver transplant with a desperate situation? Am I the only one to believe that Steve Jobs will be dead within the next 2 years? If the situation is so serious, why doesn't Apple, Steve Jobs and Disney stop the pretense?
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The "people who are monitoring [Jobs'] illness" may in fact be real doctors .... but they have about as much real info on Jobs as you or I have.

Stop repeating speculation.
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His pancreatic cancer, together with 58 year old actor Patrick Swaze's own pancreatic cancer, snip, the 9 month's wait before the first surgery in 2004, the second, secret would be surgery in 2008 and, now, a third surgery that could involve a liver transplant.

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The "people who are monitoring [Jobs'] illness" may in fact be real doctors .... but they have about as much real info on Jobs as you or I have.

Stop repeating speculation.
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250 hours a year might sound like a lot, but that's an average of five hours a week, an hour per day per business day, or just over half a day once a week. I don't know how the board spreads that time around though, that's not one part of the business world I've taken time to learn about.

As for Pixar, I've always found their movies worth one watching, if not more.


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Course he was only makin about 25,000 teaching....
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Assume for a second that he had a recurrence of cancer, would anyone want the press knocking down his door when he is coming to terms with the fact he would die? To harass someone who has achieved so much, in their time of grief or recovery is just plain sick.

People who claim they have a right to know simply because they have a shareholding in the company are equally if not more sick. Just because you gamble away some of your money doesn't give you part ownership of an individual.
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Reminds me of a Prof that was trying to teach us how become wealthy.
Course he was only makin about 25,000 teaching....
Did you ask him about that? While there is a clear chance that he's full of it, maybe there are particular reasons. The business world isn't for everyone, and not everyone has the tolerance to stay in it their entire life.

I have a cousin that made a chunk of change in the dot com boom and took his money out well before the crash. After a while he burned out, went to earn a PhD and is teaching now. I think he still has a lot of the money, I'm not totally sure. I didn't want to pry because I only see him once or twice a year.


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