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Apple addressing cracks on white MacBook casings
Apple is privately acknowledging an issue with the enclosure on some of its white 13-inch MacBooks, which in some cases have seen the formation of hairline cracks during normal usage patterns.
The Cupertino-based Mac maker is said to have issued a bulletin to its authorized service providers in March that essentially reverses its stance on replacing the bottom casing of notebooks that may be experiencing these symptoms. It was reported in November that Apple was refusing to cover repairs for the bottom casing of the notebooks despite its willingness on occasion to address identical problems with the top portion of the casings containing the keyboard and palmrests. The bulletin to providers reportedly identified four key areas of the case prone to hairline cracking, including the front portion of the case below the palmrests and trackpad, the areas around the I/O ports, the back rear corners, and the back rear ventilation area. Apple added, however, that other portions of the case could be affected by the cracking issue. For all instances, providers were reportedly asked to inspect the MacBook carefully to determine whether the cracks could be the result of the notebook haven been dropped or other accidental damage caused by the owner. In the event that providers are unable to identify signs that the user is at fault for the cracks, they're advise to escalate the notebook for coverage by Apple, regardless of whether its 1-year limited warranty has expired. A collage of cracked white 13-inch MacBook enclosures. The exception also applies to the black plastic 13-inch MacBook that was discontinued last year, but does not extend to any other member of the MacBook family, according to those familiar with the matter. Last October, Apple transitioned its entire notebook line to arguably the most durable aluminum unibody enclosures on the market. It has, however, continued to sell a single version of its legacy 13-inch white MacBook for $999. |
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It looks like the same plastic used in white iPhone. Apple should really drop using plastic in general, it just so bad.
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No- Apple needs to just stop using CHEAP plastic. There are much better grades- just look at many of the other laptops around.
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All iPods with metal backs- scratch inducive.
Once you go Mac, you never go back!
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Sure... products from any company? (Including some that wouldn't fix a crack under warranty, much less AFTER warranty as Apple has done before and is doing again now.)
You won't find a single product from any company that never showed cracks or flaws for any user. And you won't find a product where people aren't more likely to post about a problem than to say "all is well." This creates an impression that a rare (but still bad) problem is the norm. That's human nature. I'd also suspect that people are more likely to a) notice and b) CARE about minor cosmetic issues on an Apple product, because Apple products have such perfect minimal design that flaws seem extra glaring. (Not to mention, people scrutinize Apple products online and send each other off to look for flaws. They'd rush off to find them on Dells too... except nobody's that excited about the design of a Dell in the first place.) This is not to excuse Apple--products SHOULD be perfect, it should be immediately clear to everyone what is and is not abuse, and repair policies should be fully established in the consumer's favor from the very start--not corrected late as has happened in this case. When Apple fails to meet these standards, they should be called on it. However, it's not some "Apple specific" problem. (All is well I am the owner of badly-abused, dropped, sat-upon, tossed-around, caseless iPhone 3G that nevertheless has flawless plastic with zero cracks or scratches. The chrome, however received minor scratching from a gruesome gravel incident. The plastic, amazingly, showed nothing from the incident. The glass too is still perfect. I'm lucky--as I hope MOST 3G owners are--but I feel for those who have not been so lucky. I don't deny that your cracks are real. Whether you unlucky ones are 40% of buyers or 4%, it still sucks when you notice a crack.)
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Including you. IMO |
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inducive? You're saying the plastic itself directly "causes or influences" the cracks? I think you mean normal circumstances are "conducive" enough to cause cracks in the plastics. The plastic itself doesn't cause the cracks.
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Hi all,
Check out this Flickr group which has a huge collection of some far worse "cracked macbook case" photos: http://www.flickr.com/groups/crackedmacbook/pool/ the ones shown in the Apple Insider article have only subtle cracking compared to some of the MacBooks in this Flickr group which have missing pieces and huge cracks (my MacBook is in this pool of photos). |
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The palm rest on mine has chipped at the edge just through normal use. I noticed a man on the train a few weeks back and his had done the same.
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they're all out today. They love when problems surface with Apple products, because when problems arise with other another company's products there is no forum to complain about them. Apple actually has people dedicated enough to their products who create forums. I don't know what the point of Apple-bashing is when you are in sites created BY and FOR apple fans...trolls are constantly shocked and appalled at the number of people who like Apple - they don't stop and realize they're on a site dedicated to Apple fans. Go to engadget or gizmodo or somewhere else that isn't explicitly Apple-centric. I'm sure you'll find more sympathetic readers. Better yet, go to Dell Insider...oh wait it doesn't exist...well, then try TUDW...oh wait, it doesn't exist....etc
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Ha, apple cares about $25 million. Sure. You have any idea how much money they made on those first-gen nanos? Selling a $200 product at 40% margins, then 5 years later being sued and paying back 10 bucks per customer is a slap on the wrist, at BEST.
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Cracks
My MacBooks is cracked. I never even thought to bring it in, I just applied some tape and was done with it.
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And??
Some of you should take better care of your stuff.
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I have to complement Apple's service in this respect. |
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XP was garbage the day it came out, but it's interesting that legions and legions of Windows users couldn't wait to switch back to it. I've always found that hilarious. Don't forget that a lot of these PC users decry Apple hardware when they don't have a lot of money to spend, but as soon as they save up enough, they're out buying Macbooks and Macbook Pros, and are posting around here about how they "switched." There are really two types of *informed* computer users out there: 1. Mac users 2. Those who are going to be Mac users. That's the way it's always been. So don't sweat the trolls. Everything they say is actually a compliment. ![]()
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The thermal nuclear heat causes the cracks. I said it was scratch inducive not crack inducive.
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There are a lot of these experiences. Apple Stores are great to deal with.
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If any course ever needs a prime example of planned obsolecence surely there would be a picture of an iPod.
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Hi! Thanks for your idiotic remark. If you hadn't failed reading comprehension in grade school you might have noticed that the article said the problem occurred with normal use.
Or do you mean we should wrap them in plastic, like your grandma's sofa? |
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The more pressing problem with MacBooks to me is the inordinately high failure rate of their hard drives. Seems like clockwork that the stock drives fail after 2 - 2.5 years. I'm proactively replacing/upgrading drives now to avoid unplanned downtime - thankfully those 2.5" 320GB 7200RPM Hitachi drives are fast and cheap and the MacBook is a million times easier to get into than the iBooks were. Coincidentally, a few friends/clients who took their MacBooks to the Genius Bar to get their dead hard drives replaced also ended up getting their mildly cracked top-cases and shells replaced without even asking for it. I think Apple's been proactive about making those replacements for some time, but they have not exactly splashed out the news on the front page of www.apple.com. |
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You seem to be either jealous of Apple, or you simply have absolutely nothing else to do other than bash them. Probably a combination of both.
![]() Apple does seem to have problems with the plastic they use, it is very hard which seems to make it brittle and prone to cracking. I have however only seen it on one MacBook, out of many. |
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As much as I love my MBP, I am unable to find any sites that offer intelligent discussion. Just inept fanboism. I can only imagine the average age of Apple customers is 12.
Well done children!!! |
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And your point is?
My macbook is well looked after. It rarely is transported and is mainly used at the kitchen nook or on the lap in front of the TV. However, my 16 month old white Macbook just this last weekend cracked at the palm rest. Today, I booked an appointment with an Apple Genius to get it repaired - even though it is out of warranty - because as I looked into it, this appears to be an epidemic problem for Macbooks. The web is littered with tails of cracked Macbooks all in the same spots. Are you suggesting that everyone is careless with their products? I have a HP laptop for work, and that thing is abused, but it is tough as nails - 3 years old and going strong... The Macbook in comparison seems to be as tough as a butterfly. EDIT: Went to the Apple Store today, and they are repairing my out of warranty white Macbook for free. While it is good that Apple has the out of warranty coverage, they really should step up and publicly come clean that the plastic is cr*p and that they will repair your Macbook for free it it cracks and has no sign of abuse. I believe that a lot of people are not aware of this and so live day to day with a cracked case so as not to incur out of warranty repair costs. Last edited by kerryn; 04-09-2009 at 03:13 PM.. |
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I had the keyboard cover crack issue with a MB before. Apple replaced it for free within 2 hours. I am glad Apple switched to aluminum. I hate plastic. Over the years, I owned several laptops from Gateway, Dell, and HP and they always crack. I had to pay to fix it.
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Your post make you look like the 12 year old. Next time try to state your issue and wait for feedback before posting a comment like this.
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My MacBook has quietly existed, yet still managed to exhibit these cosmetic issues. I'm meaning to take the thing back to the shop but I've got assignments to do and booking it in means I'll be without it for a week or two. |
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See? I did it again. Just roll with it and enjoy the small morsels that come your way.
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It's the same with Apple. The whole Mac vs. PC thing is snobbish. I love Apple. I'm writing this on a MacBook Pro, which I love. I develop software for OS X. All my upcoming purchases are Apple hardware, but let's get real. Most ATM's run on Windows. So do most banks. So do most utility companies. Nuclear power plants. Point of sale systems (like Burger King, WalMart, etc.) Most service stations and their gas pumps. It's just silly to claim that Windows is crap and "I'd never use it." Unless you're a total Luddite, I bet you've used Windows today, but it was so invisible that you never noticed. As a software developer, I can tell you many things that Windows does better than OS X. MANY! BMW builds great cars, but I refuse to buy one because I don't want to be associated with the snotty-nosed jerks that BMW immediately reminds me of. The "children" you speak of are doing the same thing with the Apple brand. Yes, it's good stuff, but please tone down the childishness. Grown men (and women) resorting to calling Windows "Windoze" as if they've just said something brilliant. The last Linux developer I "almost" hired went on a "Windoze" rant when I asked what he likes most about Linux and he lost the job. His ignorance saved me from hiring him at the last moment. |
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Case in point. If you're going to quip, at least come up with something original.
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I think such a comment is the epitome of arrogance, although not necessarily Apple fanboism. I personally know quite a few people who aren't exactly the sharpest nail in the box, and who use Macs because they either had cash to blow or it just "goes with their style." My favorite example is one of my friends who didn't even know how to burn a simple CD using his Mac (no lie, and this was after owning his Macbook for half a year), and had to ask me (I "solved" it for him, although it was just a file burning procedure), and I'm a PC user who has hardly ever tinkered with Macs. Remember, not every Mac user is a so called "power user" who partakes in pro apps or utilizes OS X to its fullest extent. Just like how not every Windows user is a dumbass. |
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![]() Now why don't you get lost.
Ain't it funny how countries we "liberate" promptly descend into crime and civil war-Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. ?
Countries the "violent Islamists" subjugate end up peaceful, crime-free, and self-sustaining-Somalia,Afghanistan pre-U.S. ? |
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I'd agree with you. But he can certainly stay. It's entertaining. The anti-Apple crowd is usually very easy to refute, since they use Windows to begin with.
Funny thing is, my experiences with Macs have been exactly the opposite. I can also produce as many "friends" who have had no issues with Macs whatsoever as the next person who claims they have had issues. All these personal, anecdotal experiences don't amount to anything. What does matter? Customer satisfaction numbers. The general ebb and flow of surveys done every year. I'd trust those a lot more than a few trolls that are either lying or exaggerating. Even if they ARE truthful, they might not be a reflection of the majority at all. So just tune them out and look at the bigger picture. ![]()
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Not at all. They're intelligent. Insofar as masochists can be intelligent.
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![]() So the grapes are sour anyway, right? When you're finally able to reach the vine, let us know.
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