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BlackBerry unseats iPhone as most popular smartphone in Q1
Aggressive promotions through its US wireless carrier helped push BlackBerry maker Research in Motion ahead Apple and the iPhone to take honors as the most popular smartphone maker during the first quarter of 2009.
During the three-month period ended March, RIM's consumer smartphone market share increased 15 percent to nearly 50 percent of the smartphone market versus the prior quarter, according to market research firm NPD. The rise was good enough unseat previous top-slot holder Apple, whose iPhone along with handsets manufactured by Palm saw their share of the market each decline by about 10 percent. NPD attributed the shift largely to an aggressive "buy-one-get-one" promotion by Verizon Wireless that helped RIM's BlackBerry Curve move past the iPhone to become the best-selling consumer smartphone in the U.S. in the first quarter. "The more familiar, and less expensive, Curve benefited from these giveaways and was able to leapfrog the iPhone, due to its broader availability on the four major U.S. national carriers," said analyst Ross Rubin. The promotion also contributed to RIM capturing two additional top five positions, namely the the third slot, which went to the BlackBerry Storm, and the fourth, which was made up of all BlackBerry Pearl handsets with the exception of flip models. T-Mobile's G1 handset running Google's open Android software was the fifth most popular smartphone during the quarter. Overall, smartphones saw their share of the global cell phone market rise 6 percent on a year-over-year basis to 23 percent. Rubin sees this as a sign that, even in the challenging economy, consumers are "migrating toward Web-capable handsets and their supporting data plans to access more information and entertainment on the go." Apple's fall from top of the smartphone charts wasn't unforeseen. The Cupertino-based company said last month it shipped 3.79 million iPhones during the first calendar quarter of the year. By comparison, RIM sold a record 7.8 million BlackBerries -- or more than double the number of iPhones. -- between December and the end of February. |
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Wow. Just wow. They already say iPhone iPod falling flat ala sales.
New ms ads bad Eco. Winder what happens when pre comes out Win 7 with no more support for xp 98 and just one Msft touch machine tab All iPhone contracts expire. Holy molt. Quote:
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RIM sells across several wireless provides, Apple only sells through one provider. Apple needs to break free and sell through more providers.
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Pic of iPhone Pro at http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...ne-Pro2_02.jpg
Break loose perhaps, isn't RIM only with Verizon though? iPhoners would probably stay in their contracts IMO. Last edited by CU10; 08-05-2009 at 06:25 PM.. |
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Of course their sales would skyrocket with BOGO deals. Plenty of elementary kids who just "Neeeeeeeeed" a Blackberry.
I'm reminded of Dennis Miller talking about BOGO suits at K-Mart. "Two of sh*t is still sh*t" |
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As for the new iPhone, I hope there are some stunning new features and improvements. I have yet to bite on the iPhone yet, but was tempted with the refurbed 16GB for $149. Still, for me that is a boatload of cash for a phone. I have yet to pay more than $29 for a phone. Heck, my Palm Centro was free, and it does a decent job though the keyboard is ridiculously small. |
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Long term
That kind of two-for-one antic will cost RIM dearly in the next quarter.
That said, clearly RIM is the most important competitor in the long run. People who own Blackberries are fiercely loyal. They are just like Apple fans. RIM would have to have not one, but several duds in order to lose them, and that's not likely. Competition is good. Everybody needs to keep on their toes. |
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Who's doing the Heavy Promoting?
I'm sorry but nothing could be more relentless than the "There's an App for That" commercials.
Last edited by teckstud; 05-04-2009 at 10:41 AM.. |
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I really doubt that iPhone owners, even those whose contracts will expire, will leave the iPhone along with the money they invested in buying their iPhone apps anytime soon.
I don't know why people think of Jun/July as the magic date where iPhone owners will expire their contracts?!! The 1st generation iPhone was sold for a whole year before it was replaced by the 3G version and the majority of 1st iPhone owners (in the US) upgraded. I am also sure that almost all of those who did not upgrade will go for the new iPhone coming this summer so they can keep using their apps (professional, games, .. etc).
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I don't think Apple and RIMM are behind each other customers. The biggest market right now are those who don't own a smart phone.
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Last edited by NasserAE; 05-04-2009 at 12:11 PM.. |
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You do realize that the iPhone is more than a phone right? How much did you pay for your iPod?
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How many of those Blackberries were promoted and sold via AT&T with their relentless promotion for their self proclaimed outstanding 3G network?
Just wondering. ![]() Last edited by teckstud; 05-04-2009 at 10:39 AM.. |
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Damn learn how to spell and make sense.
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Someone else mentioned the plan, which is a big part of my reluctance. I don't send more than 5 texts per month, but the apps available make it worth having the phone. I'm becoming more of a fan of a world without wires. |
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Who are you kidding? No one is going from one device that they love to two devices that replicate the same functions (kinda - you'd still be giving up some things, like GPS and the 3G app integration (facebook uploading from the road and the like). You're really reaching here, it's kinda sad.
"Solipsism: In philosophy, a view that maintains that the self is the only thing that can be known to exist. It is an extreme form of skepticism. The solipsist sees himself or herself as the only individual in existence...."
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First, there is hardly an iPhone advertisement every hour. Secondly, the iPhone advertisements are from Apple only and are the same ones, shown with the same frequency as all the others shown around the world. The *carriers* in Canada, don't advertise the iPhone at all. Period. None. All the carrier phone commercials are for the Blackberry or similar phones. This includes Rogers and fido who actually carry the iPhone as well as all the other carriers that only carry the Blackberry. I don't know about other countries, but in Canada at least, the iPhone is not promoted by the carriers and the amount of Blackberry commercials far outweigh the iPhone commercials by a factor of six or eight to one IMO. |
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ATT and Apple would be very pleased to hear the logic that causes you to think that your iPod was free. It only cost you $1500 or so.
"Solipsism: In philosophy, a view that maintains that the self is the only thing that can be known to exist. It is an extreme form of skepticism. The solipsist sees himself or herself as the only individual in existence...."
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was that haiku or something?
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Clearly misleading stat
RIM didn't SELL 7.8 million BlackBerries, they SHIPPED that amount. When you get so desperate that you give away half of your products, you may be able to bump up your volume temporarily, but it's a doomed business model.
Either the Blackberries are highly overpriced when they are sold at regular price, or they are losing money with this promotion. In either case, RIM is engaging in an unsustainable practice. The company should not be applauded for making a superior product, they should just get that sarcastic, slow clap for pulling off a cunning stunt. |
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When he finally buys an iPhone one day, it will magically transform into the best thing since sliced bread and it will be hard to shut him up about that also. ![]() |
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The blackberries are everywhere now... people that "should" go for an iPhone are opting for the BB. It's odd to me, but clearly visible out and about looking at what people are using.
For myself, I'll be ditching my 1st gen iPhone bought at launch come June. I still haven't figured out what my replacement will be, but one thing is certain: I will not buy a SIM-locked smart phone! The numnutz that decided that was a good idea must not travel. At least the Blackberries have some semblence of an international roaming plan! |
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june/july marks the first round of expiring contracts. all the early adopters. who waited in line for hours or days. these are the people who are supposedly going to abandon the iphone. |
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And why would AT&T care? It was an iPod, not an iPhone. Before you criticize somebody, try to get your facts straight. |
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A lot of businesses choose this misguided approach to keep the "numbers up...." They're chasing market share thinking that will eventually give them profit! ![]() |
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I can wait for the next version iPhone (the first for my wife and I)!
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Cheap and plentiful tends to sell.
Apple with just ONE phone with just ONE provider shook up the entire industry and took #1 position in the US and #3 worldwide and held it for quite some time. Now, in a lousy economy, RIM offers a Wal-Mart-esque promotion on their ancient e-mail/texting machines and they manage to get into a top spot in Q1. And so far only Q1. Are we supposed to be impressed that a company that has been in business forever, that has produced the Storm-flop, has managed not to suck for once??
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Mac OS users have made a conscious technology choice and are therefore typically better informed than their peers. -- Paul Thurrott, winsupersite.com, December 06, 2004 Last edited by Quadra 610; 05-04-2009 at 11:08 AM.. |
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Either way, those 30 dollar Blackberries have no 3G or WiFi, among other shortcomings. Comparing the iPhone 3G to a Curve or Pearl is just laughable. A much more accurate comparison would be to the Bold, which is more than the iPhone right now. Even so, with the Curve or Pearls, it's a $170 difference at most, so while being more expensive (for a more feature-rich phone), it's not the rediculous difference you would try to make it out to be. I don't know why I keep letting a child pull me into these arguments. I think it'd be best to just ignore him. |
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Last edited by teckstud; 05-04-2009 at 11:10 AM.. |
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No Rim is with ALL Carriers for the Blackberry. The Curve is a great device for a Blackberry but the numbers are only higher since they sell a ton through multiple carriers for cheap for Companies that just care about Email and Calendar. The Curve is definitely not a full-featured device with good software ala the iPhone but simply does what it does pretty well.
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Your post is a poor advertisement for the iPhone. I take it you sent your post from one? Other than that... BIG YAWN! If Apple had a buy one get one offer... guess what? The BB is a great product and so is the iPhone. They'll be head to head for a long time yet and I really don't think one will outdo the other. What will sink either will be their own stupid mistakes, bad marketing, poor qc, arrogance, etc.
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iWant new iProduct
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