Apple to replace water-damaged iPhones for $199

[AppleInsider]

Careless iPhone owners who've submerged their handsets in some form of liquid can now take Apple up on an unadvertised policy that offers replacements for a flat fee of $199.

According to ifoAppleStore, the new policy pertains to out-of-warranty incidents that would normally require the purchase of a new phone, but does so at the expense of triggering an extention of the owner’s two-year AT&T wireless service contract.

Customers who trade-in their water damaged phones will be given a factory refurbished model -- not a new iPhone -- and can then transfer the SIM card from their damaged handset into the refurbished device.

Apple began including liquid submersion indicators, or LSIs, in its portable products around the time it introduced its first iPhone. They irreversibly change color once they come in contact with a liquid, thereby offering the company's retail store staff and authorized repair specialists an easy way to determine if a customer caused damage to their product with liquids -- incidents that aren't covered under Apple's standard warranties.

The iPhone 3G has four LSIs, one in the headset jack, one in the dock connector, and two others located internally. Similarly, both the 13-inch unibody MacBook and unibody MacBook Pros each contain four LSIs spread across their inner chassis, diagrams of which can be seen here.

An LSI on the first-gen iPhone can be seen as the white material inside the headphone jack.

ifo speculates that Apple's policy change on water-damaged iPhones could be a means of clearing out inventory of the current iPhone 3G ahead of new models expected this summer. However, an informed commenter points out that it's more likely an easing of general policy given that offer is valid for first-generation iPhones and costs $199 regardless of the generation or capacity of the iPhone.

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[SpamSandwich]

People everywhere who have accidentally dropped their iPhone into a toilet (myself not included) will be very thankful.

[Quadra 610]

Well, that's a nice gesture I suppose.

[r00fus]

I have a 1st gen iPhone, and I'd like to upgrade without extending my contract... without destroying my phone, why wouldn't I be able to trade in my iPhone for a refurbished 3G model with no contract extension?

[Milford]

Though amusing, the lede sentence is misleading: "Careless iPhone owners who've submerged their handsets in some form of liquid can now take Apple up on an unadvertised policy that offers replacements for a flat fee of $199."

It doesn't take submerging to void your warranty. A single ill-guided raindrop will do the job (the sensors are practically on the outside of the phone!), as will condensation common in humid climates where, say, you often walk from air-conditioned rooms into humid warm air. The sensors produce a very high percentage of false-positives, but how can you prove that to Apple? Everyone says, But I didn't spill anything on it.

[teckstud]

Everything and anything to get that market share back from RIM!

[Roos24]

Originally Posted by teckstud

Everything and anything to get that market share back from RIM!

Teckstud, my friend, you never cease to ruffle my feathers. If you hate Apple that much, please leave this forum!

Do you really believe what you write? Let me tell you this: Apple is a LEADER. Blackberry, and all others for that matter, is a FOLLOWER. Leaders go their own way. I for one believe that Apple couldn't care less who is number one. They look at the big picture. And I strongly believe that picture looks great in Apple's eyes.

Please go and take your friend Italiankid with you. Goodbye!

[teckstud]

Originally Posted by Roos24

Teckstud, my friend, you never cease to ruffle my feathers. If you hate Apple that much, please leave this forum!

Do you really believe what you write? Let me tell you this: Apple is a LEADER. Blackberry, and all others for that matter, is a FOLLOWER. Leaders go their own way. I for one believe that Apple couldn't care less who is number one. They look at the big picture. And I strongly believe that picture looks great in Apple's eyes.

Please go and take your friend Italiankid with you. Goodbye!

I don't hate Apple- just stating the facts Ma'am. It's great for the consumer that this is now an option- but is it a mere coincidence that this is announced after those 1st quarter results?
LIGHTEN UP!
And Blackberry is a follower? HA-What drugs are you on? They have been the LEADER in smartphones for like how many years?

[RaVeN Chaos]

This has actually been the case for a while. I was in the Apple store over a month ago and they saw a little pink on the sensor in my headphone jack, told me I had water damage and could only replace my phone for $199, no repair options etc. I was actually not happy with the suggestion as the only time the phone has been exposed to anything beyond the normal Houston Humidity is when I am sweating at the gym or running outside. The phone works in all aspects except dropping calls and the extended time in that week of saying no sim was installed.

[hezekiahb]

Originally Posted by Milford

Though amusing, the lede sentence is misleading: "Careless iPhone owners who've submerged their handsets in some form of liquid can now take Apple up on an unadvertised policy that offers replacements for a flat fee of $199."

It doesn't take submerging to void your warranty. A single ill-guided raindrop will do the job (the sensors are practically on the outside of the phone!), as will condensation common in humid climates where, say, you often walk from air-conditioned rooms into humid warm air. The sensors produce a very high percentage of false-positives, but how can you prove that to Apple? Everyone says, But I didn't spill anything on it.

A lot of people say those LSI are easy to trigger but they do in fact range from light pink to dark dark red. I've seen an Apple Store deal with a submerged phone. The sensors on the bottom were dark red but despite this they also checked the inside ones to give the guy a fair chance. All 4 were dark dark red, not a result of humidity or casually laying it in some water on a table.

People who want to be able to destroy their iPhone & get it replaced free need to look into a 3rd party insurer, they do exist. Some insurance companies like Travelers or State Farm will actually insure phones, definitely worth it if you are accident prone.

[wolvie]

What is baffling me is the fact that the replacement cost is the same across the board- 1st and 2nd gen, 4 8 and 16GB- doesn't matter.

The 16GB situation is the most odd to me- OOW 16 GB phone would run 249 or 299 depending on the unit, and now we can submerge it in liquid and get it replaced for cheaper? Does this mean all replacements run 199 now? No matter what the model and size?

And the idea that Apple is trying to liquidate the existing inventory is odd as well- why do that if you need units for service replacement in the future?

Maybe someone else can shed some light on this...

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by wolvie

What is baffling me is the fact that the replacement cost is the same across the board- 1st and 2nd gen, 4 8 and 16GB- doesn't matter.

The 16GB situation is the most odd to me- OOW 16 GB phone would run 249 or 299 depending on the unit, and now we can submerge it in liquid and get it replaced for cheaper? Does this mean all replacements run 199 now? No matter what the model and size?

And the idea that Apple is trying to liquidate the existing inventory is odd as well- why do that if you need units for service replacement in the future?

Maybe someone else can shed some light on this...

These are refurbished iPhones so the price isn't as much as a new handset. They are obviously clearing inventory and they apparently feel they have plenty of parts for repairs if they are doing this. Since you have to extend your contract for another two years Apple is getting their subsidization fee from AT&T on top of the $199 and since we are going into a huge lull in iPhone sales prior to the launch of the 3rd iPhone sales right now are a good sale.

BTW, are you allowed to go from a 4GB iPhone to a 16GB iPhone 3G or are they only allowing for a horizontal move in capacity between the original and 3G iPhones, except for the 4GB model which would have to be the 8Gb, of course. If it's any capacity then why wouldn't everyone get the 16Gb model?

[bigmike]

Of course it's perfect timing to "announce" that they're doing this, right before the next iPhone. It's getting rid of inventory if you ask me. A smart move by Apple.

[wolvie]

Originally Posted by solipsism

These are refurbished iPhones so the price isn't as much as a new handset. They are obviously clearing inventory and they apparently feel they have plenty of parts for repairs if they are doing this. Since you have to extend your contract for another two years Apple is getting their subsidization fee from AT&T on top of the $199 and since we are going into a huge lull in iPhone sales prior to the launch of the 3rd iPhone sales right now are a good sale.

BTW, are you allowed to go from a 4GB iPhone to a 16GB iPhone 3G or are they only allowing for a horizontal move in capacity between the original and 3G iPhones, except for the 4GB model which would have to be the 8Gb, of course. If it's any capacity then why wouldn't everyone get the 16Gb model?

The thing about "refurbished" iPhones is that Apple only reuses the main board. Everything else on the phone is brand new (ie battery, display, outer casing, etc.). And I forgot about the extension of the two year contract- that's gonna suck for people that have their phone replaced and then see a new iPhone come out this summer or fall.

And when you're upgrading to the 3G, you can get whatever size you want- no restrictions to my knowledge. But that's the retail side of things. If you are having it replaced via service, it's my understanding that you have to replace with the same model and size. I might be wrong about this, since it's been less than a week since Apple started doing this company wide.

[hiimamac]

Originally Posted by Roos24

Teckstud, my friend, you never cease to ruffle my feathers. If you hate Apple that much, please leave this forum!

Do you really believe what you write? Let me tell you this: Apple is a LEADER. Blackberry, and all others for that matter, is a FOLLOWER. Leaders go their own way. I for one believe that Apple couldn't care less who is number one. They look at the big picture. And I strongly believe that picture looks great in Apple's eyes.

Please go and take your friend Italiankid with you. Goodbye!

Apple was the leader but was just dethroned by the curve.

I suppose in know time flat, depending in 3.0, they should be in top. I find it intersting though that people can't stand AT&T. Wonder how good the new update will be or will apple in apple typical fashion, add say tehering but require a new phone, new contract?

[hiimamac]

Originally Posted by bigmike

Of course it's perfect timing to "announce" that they're doing this, right before the next iPhone. It's getting rid of inventory if you ask me. A smart move by Apple.

Smart yes but a very bad indicator for current owners. This means a new phone and 3.0 will be very limited on the 1st ten 3G. Am not surprised at all. Already have a plan and hats to offer my phone to my wonderful wife. Or sell it if she says no.

[wolvie]

Originally Posted by hiimamac

Apple was the leader but was just dethroned by the curve.

I suppose in know time flat, depending in 3.0, they should be in top. I find it intersting though that people can't stand AT&T. Wonder how good the new update will be or will apple in apple typical fashion, add say tehering but require a new phone, new contract?

I would assume that tethering would be considered an add-on to existing contracts (no extension required).

[icebike]

Originally Posted by hezekiahb

I've seen an Apple Store deal with a submerged phone. The sensors on the bottom were dark red but despite this they also checked the inside ones to give the guy a fair chance.

I've been to the apple store many times and I have NEVER seen them take an iPhone apart in order to see the internal water sensors.

I have a friend who had a phone in for one of the 2.0 software bugs and they claimed it was water damaged. (I was standing right there with him. The earphone sensor was tripped and the bottom dock sensor was still white. My buddy said the phone had never gotten wet, but had been in damp locations (steamy bathrooms, etc).

So we suggested they check the two additional sensors inside the phone.

The "Geniuses" all claimed there were only two sensors, one in each end of the phone. We stepped over to the Macs on display and surfed up the web pages showing exactly where the two additional sensors were located.

The Geniuses then changed their story and steadfastly refused to open the phone to check these sensors. They insisted any one sensor being tripped was cause enough to void the warranty, and they had strict instructions never to open the phones.

So in short, I think you made it up about them checking the other 2 in store. It just does not happen.

[icebike]

Originally Posted by bigmike

Of course it's perfect timing to "announce" that they're doing this, right before the next iPhone. It's getting rid of inventory if you ask me. A smart move by Apple.

The timing of this has nothing to do with getting rid of inventory.

The truth is that Apple has lost a couple of court claims (or quietly settled out of court) regarding these lame external sensors and has had to give new phones to the claimants.

They have done everything they can do in order to hush this up, including pulling threads from the Apple forums. These threads still exist in Google's cache:

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

[hill60]

Get the indicators on your Nokia or any other brand of phone wet from any source including humidity (which will also enter removeable battery covers) and it's liquid immersion, warranty void, tough luck pal go buy a new phone at full price.

No other manufacturer offers anything like this.

Originally Posted by teckstud

Everything and anything to get that market share back from RIM!

[brucep]

Originally Posted by icebike

The timing of this has nothing to do with getting rid of inventory.

The truth is that Apple has lost a couple of court claims (or quietly settled out of court) regarding these lame external sensors and has had to give new phones to the claimants.

They have done everything they can do in order to hush this up, including pulling threads from the Apple forums. These threads still exist in Google's cache:

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

wow
Great post . Good read . I loved the part about two peeps went skiing with their I phones in there pockets .

[teckstud]

Originally Posted by hill60

Get the indicators on your Nokia or any other brand of phone wet from any source including humidity (which will also enter removeable battery covers) and it's liquid immersion, warranty void, tough luck pal go buy a new phone at full price.

No other manufacturer offers anything like this.

Not true- my friend dropped his $150 phone in the toilet last month 1 1/2 years after purchase and Verizon gave him a new one for $50 without a new contract. There.
One Verizon store however was going to make him pay but another one gave him a break.
It's not only the manufacturer but the carrier as well who gives the break.

[jlf278]

Originally Posted by hezekiahb

A lot of people say those LSI are easy to trigger but they do in fact range from light pink to dark dark red. I've seen an Apple Store deal with a submerged phone. The sensors on the bottom were dark red but despite this they also checked the inside ones to give the guy a fair chance. All 4 were dark dark red, not a result of humidity or casually laying it in some water on a table.

People who want to be able to destroy their iPhone & get it replaced free need to look into a 3rd party insurer, they do exist. Some insurance companies like Travelers or State Farm will actually insure phones, definitely worth it if you are accident prone.

My wife recently took her iPhone in to the Apple Store and was told that her 1 year warranty is now void because the water damage mark in the headphone jack is pink. It is definitely light pink, not red at all. It has never been in contact with water except or possibly sweat or being taken out briefly in a light drizzle. These are circumstances that should not void the apple warranty. We need a class action law-suit. Consumer reports should inspect few dozen iPhones at random from people who have used them for 6-18 months and see how many have all four LSI white.

[hill60]

That would have been done at the store level, one of the workers probably picked up up a few quick bucks on the side by pulling one out of the recycle bin.

People aren't always truthful about what happens to their things, which is why they started putting the indicators in a few years ago, when you point them out it's amusing to watch the story change.

I've worked in a phone store for eight years and have seen thousands of warranty repair rejections, the repair centres even take photo's of evidence of fluid ingress when rejecting warranty claims.

Apple is the first manfacturer I've see who do this, on the 12th of July last year I had a customer come back with a smashed screen, I sent it off as a non warranty repair and the phone was replaced for $A275 i.e. $US199.

Originally Posted by teckstud

Not true- my friend dropped his $150 phone in the toilet last month 1 1/2 years after purchase and Verizon gave him a new one for $50 without a new contract. There.
One Verizon store however was going to make him pay but another one gave him a break.
It's not only the manufacturer but the carrier as well who gives the break.

[jcw5002]

I think this applies for cracked screens, too. My buddy cracked his screen and they let him pay the subsidized price if he extended his contract (not sure if he had to do this) and gave them the old phone back. Not a bad deal.

[brucep]

Originally Posted by iStink

if i drop my touch pro in the toilet sprint sends me another one for $50 (I pay 7 dollars a month for insurance.)

So after 2 years of service, I will have paid $168 for peace of mind. And God forbid I need to replace it. So another 50 on that is $218. I'd say these water damage prices are very fair then.

The only upside to my insurance is my phone costs more (300 with 2 year contract) and I can replace it if the phone is lost or stolen, not to mention damaged.

Either way Apple is on the right track. Best Buy sells insurance for an extra 15 a month, but it's very limited (if the phone gets lost or stolen or damaged by water you're SOL, so what's the point?)

Does your phone insurance have a deductible ??

[Logical]

My wife was using her iPhone while drinking coffee one morning. She put the phone in her robe pocket, and then some time later, spilled the coffee on her robe. You got it! Robe (and phone) in wash. 30 minute wash cycle, detergents, etc....back and forth, work it in, all good and wet.

Well, she pulled the robe out of the wash and the phone dropped onto the floor. Tears, panic, OMG, what have I done. Click, click, nada. It was bricked. A nice new fancy toy for our 5 year old. She loved it.

So we went out and got a new phone (an upgrade to 3G, which she liked). Chaching...expensive mistake.

About 4 days later, my daughter brought her new toy over and said, "daddy, look." 100% functional, except for calls because the contract was transferred to a new phone. Everything works on the phone as it should. Not one single problem. My mom now has a gen 1 iPhone without a contract, for free.

[justflybob]

Originally Posted by Logical

My wife was using her iPhone while drinking coffee one morning. She put the phone in her robe pocket, and then some time later, spilled the coffee on her robe. You got it! Robe (and phone) in wash. 30 minute wash cycle, detergents, etc....back and forth, work it in, all good and wet.

Well, she pulled the robe out of the wash and the phone dropped onto the floor. Tears, panic, OMG, what have I done. Click, click, nada. It was bricked. A nice new fancy toy for our 5 year old. She loved it.

So we went out and got a new phone (an upgrade to 3G, which she liked). Chaching...expensive mistake.

About 4 days later, my daughter brought her new toy over and said, "daddy, look." 100% functional, except for calls because the contract was transferred to a new phone. Everything works on the phone as it should. Not one single problem. My mom now has a gen 1 iPhone without a contract, for free.

And that, as Paul Harvey used to say "Is the rest of the story."

[brucep]

Originally Posted by hill60

That would have been done at the store level, one of the workers probably picked up up a few quick bucks on the side by pulling one out of the recycle bin.

People aren't always truthful about what happens to their things, which is why they started putting the indicators in a few years ago, when you point them out it's amusing to watch the story change.

I've worked in a phone store for eight years and have seen thousands of warranty repair rejections, the repair centres even take photo's of evidence of fluid ingress when rejecting warranty claims.

Apple is the first manfacturer I've see who do this, on the 12th of July last year I had a customer come back with a smashed screen, I sent it off as a non warranty repair and the phone was replaced for $A275 i.e. $US199.

it's really hit or miss going to the store . I find with a pro-care card thing's goes better .Never lie to apple sales people in the store .Never.

I had an ipod go bad after a hard bang, Kinda my fault .It showed a tiny tiny ding . Phone support was no help .
Apple store no help . So I bought a new one Same model 2 or 3rd gen . 2 months later this one goes weird the charge would bleed out in minutes and the pod got very hot . I went back to the store . The sales person replaced it .
and he remembered me from before . he took my extended warranty care from the second pod and switched to the first banged pod
So I walk out that day with 2 new ipods . Of course I got 1 gen behind models, but who cares .

Some weeks later while buying the 13 in black mac book . I dropped a fifty dollars tip that apple sales person . I mention that I had 5 laptops of various models and disrepair .
That sales person took all 5 laptops in.
he called that night told me to buy 3x 120 g hd's from best buy. wow from 80 g to 120 g
I brought these over to him . 2 weeks later, I went back and was floored to see that he had cannibalized 2 of the 5 laptops completely for spare parts and fixed the final 3 laptops with all new hd and extra parts .

All 3 laptops worked better than ever . He got a 300 tip for that . Although he did it for the love of mac .

So sometimes your fucked for no reason or fault of yours and sometimes its all your fault and they replace it for free .

I learned from this that always buy a pro-care card . Always buy something from the store < a mouse or something cheap > when you want them to replace a broken product that may be your fault.

I also learned how easy it is to switch out your hard drive .

I now have a 500 g Samsung triple hard drive in my black 13 in macbook.
500 g !!! un-fucking real. Which means I can download movie's<tv shows and video pod casts all day long and keep them .
And it now hold's 18 g of photo 85 g of music 200 g of movie with a 2nd back up part-ion drive of a 100 g .

I am not bragging here its just that I am so stupid about computers that I am proud that I got this far .

peace
sorry long post

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by brucep

it's really hit or miss going to the store . I find with a pro-care card thing's goes better .Never lie to apple sales people in the store .Never.

I had an ipod go bad after a hard bang, Kinda my fault .It showed a tiny tiny ding . Phone support was no help .
Apple store no help . So I bought a new one Same model 2 or 3rd gen . 2 months later this one goes weird the charge would bleed out in minutes and the pod got very hot . I went back to the store . The sales person replaced it .
and he remembered me from before . he took my extended warranty care from the second pod and switched to the first banged pod
So I walk out that day with 2 new ipods . Of course I got 1 gen behind models, but who cares .

Some weeks later while buying the 13 in black mac book . I dropped a fifty dollars tip that apple sales person . I mention that I had 5 laptops of various models and disrepair .
That sales person took all 5 laptops in.
he called that night told me to buy 3x 120 g hd's from best buy. wow from 80 g to 120 g
I brought these over to him . 2 weeks later, I went back and was floored to see that he had cannibalized 2 of the 5 laptops completely for spare parts and fixed the final 3 laptops with all new hd and extra parts .

All 3 laptops worked better than ever . He got a 300 tip for that . Although he did it for the love of mac .

So sometimes your fucked for no reason or fault of yours and sometimes its all your fault and they replace it for free .

I learned from this that always buy a pro-care card . Always buy something from the store < a mouse or something cheap > when you want them to replace a broken product that may be your fault.

I also learned how easy it is to switch out your hard drive .

I now have a 500 g Samsung triple hard drive in my black 13 in macbook.
500 g !!! un-fucking real. Which means I can download movie's<tv shows and video pod casts all day long and keep them .
And it now hold's 18 g of photo 85 g of music 200 g of movie with a 2nd back up part-ion drive of a 100 g .

I am not bragging here its just that I am so stupid about computers that I am proud that I got this far .

peace
sorry long post

• How to use punctuation properly

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by iStink

LOL! Well, the funny thing about little devices like mobile phones and cameras is if you take the battery out, and let them dry completely without powering them on, most of the time you can get away with it and they will function. The problem is though, they seem to function normally at first, but over time, depending on what liquid got on the device, corrosion builds up and causes the thing to die.

When I jumped in the pool with my razr, I let it dry out and it worked perfect for about a month, then it slowly started messing up. The charger stopped working randomly (even with new battery) the screen would flicker, the phone would suddenly start hitting keys and calling people on my speed dial. This all happened very slowly and I contribute it to the water damage it received some time earlier.

The pool is has many conductive and corrosive elements in the water. I have pretty good luck with fixing devices that have gotten submerged in the ocean but I have always taken them as full apart as I could, rinsed them well with distilled water and let them dry sufficiently before even trying to start it up again. I found that a dashboard of a car is great for evaporating water very quickly from miniscule components but you do have to watch it if it's a hot dry.

[wolvie]

Originally Posted by icebike

I've been to the apple store many times and I have NEVER seen them take an iPhone apart in order to see the internal water sensors.

I have a friend who had a phone in for one of the 2.0 software bugs and they claimed it was water damaged. (I was standing right there with him. The earphone sensor was tripped and the bottom dock sensor was still white. My buddy said the phone had never gotten wet, but had been in damp locations (steamy bathrooms, etc).

So we suggested they check the two additional sensors inside the phone.

The "Geniuses" all claimed there were only two sensors, one in each end of the phone. We stepped over to the Macs on display and surfed up the web pages showing exactly where the two additional sensors were located.

The Geniuses then changed their story and steadfastly refused to open the phone to check these sensors. They insisted any one sensor being tripped was cause enough to void the warranty, and they had strict instructions never to open the phones.

So in short, I think you made it up about them checking the other 2 in store. It just does not happen.

To my knowledge, I believe that Apple starting opening phones (3G anyway) a few weeks ago. I was in a store where a persons phone had a bad screen. The genius said they would replace the display so the person could keep their data. This tells me they are opening them up- how else could you replace the display?

I also saw one coming out of the back and saying the two internal indicators had been tripped as well. One thing I heard him say was that it doesn't matter if one or four indicators are tripped- all it takes is one to observe that at least part of the phone got liquid in/on it.

[brucep]

Originally Posted by iStink

Yeah the $50 I mentioned. If I never have to replace my phone, I will have paid $168 in two years for peace of mind (7 a month.) If I do have to replace it, I can replace it as many times as I want with a $50 deductible. With my history of inadvertently damaging my phones through pure stupidity, this was something I seriously considered between the iphone and touch pro.

i am also bad with phones .and verizon always found a way to screw me over .so i left after so many years
i was contract free!!
they called me back w/ no contract and a low rate for my phone .the phone is free and i pay 70 dollars for 2 lines <<my wife also >>
i wish verizon got the iphone

peace

[brucep]

Originally Posted by solipsism

• How to use punctuation properly

mation-mark-end-line.html
<<< before soli bitched >>>
dude that line you're crossing is a wide one .Stop insulting me . if my best is not ok then too bad.
you seem like a well respected member here .and you have a ton of posts .if your going to continue this asine shit then just leave me a note to me to leave the forum and i will fucking leave .life is too short to fight on the internet .

<<< after soli bitched >>>
Dude that line you're crossing is a wide one .Stop insulting me . If my best is not ok then too bad.
you seem like a well respected member here. and you have a ton of posts .if you're going to continue this asine shit then just leave me a note to me to leave the forum and i will fucking leave .life is too short to fight on the internet.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by brucep

mation-mark-end-line.html
<<< before soli bitched >>>
dude that line you're crossing is a wide one .Stop insulting me . if my best is not ok then too bad.
you seem like a well respected member here .and you have a ton of posts .if your going to continue this asine shit then just leave me a note to me to leave the forum and i will fucking leave .life is too short to fight on the internet .

<<< after soli bitched >>>
Dude that line you're crossing is a wide one .Stop insulting me . If my best is not ok then too bad.
you seem like a well respected member here. and you have a ton of posts .if you're going to continue this asine shit then just leave me a note to me to leave the forum and i will fucking leave .life is too short to fight on the internet.

I'm not insulting you, either you are doing it on purpose or you don't know better. Since it's been pointed out to you how to use punctuation correctly its clear it's intentional so I won't be posting any other such links.

[brucep]

Originally Posted by solipsism

I'm not insulting you, either you are doing it on purpose or you don't know better. Since it's been pointed out to you how to use punctuation correctly its clear it's intentional so I won't be posting any other such links.

AGAIN DUDE CAN YOU NOT SEE A BIG IMPROVEMENT FROM WHEN YOU FIRST MENTIONED IT ??
THAT MEANS I LISTENED TO YOU AND TOOK YOU ADVICE .I THEN STATED TWICE THAT THIS IS AS GOOD AS I CAN DO . IF A DOT OFF SPACED WHATS THE BIG DEAL . ?? I WOULD RATHER TALK TO YOU ABOUT APPLE AND TECH STUFF THAN THIS DRIBBLE .



ok

<bruce stomps off the forum in a dramatic huff >>>

trips and opens hulu ........hmmmm i did miss lost last week ......

[brucep]

Originally Posted by iStink

don't forget, there's an episode tonight lol

24 heroes lost
all rock .

[msm859]

Originally Posted by jlf278

My wife recently took her iPhone in to the Apple Store and was told that her 1 year warranty is now void because the water damage mark in the headphone jack is pink. It is definitely light pink, not red at all. It has never been in contact with water except or possibly sweat or being taken out briefly in a light drizzle. These are circumstances that should not void the apple warranty. We need a class action law-suit. Consumer reports should inspect few dozen iPhones at random from people who have used them for 6-18 months and see how many have all four LSI white.

This happened to me with my first generation iphone. Sent it in for repair they said it was water damaged not covered. I had never spilled any water on it or dropped it in any water. They didn't care. I sued them in small claims court -- before trial they settled.

[dpalmer]

I don't mind the anti-water policy; I went swimming a couple months ago and forgot that I still had my phone in my swimsuit. Me being an idiot isn't Apple's fault.

What I hate is the 8 phone limit from AT&T. I thought it was nice to buy my family phones for Christmas, but now I'm marked as a "dealer" and I'm banned from buying any more iPhones. And, being a careless idiot, I go through phones every few months - and so I have to have my boyfriend buy the new one this summer.

Why on earth can't I pay full price for as many phones as I want?

[Kendoka]

Originally Posted by brucep

24 heroes lost
all rock .

I'm with solipsism on this one.
Please try to use capital letters, commas and punctuation (not hard, see...).

As of now your posts are very hard to understand (especially for us who don't have English as our mother tongue).

This in not an insult - just a friendly request. Simply show some respect for others by doing your best. A few moments more spent on a post will save lots of time for those reading it.

(Who are those 24 lost heroes? A remake of "47 Ronin"?)