Last-minute rumor: iPhone 3GS with longer battery life at WWDC

***AppleInsider*** · 06-07-2009, 08:21 PM

As Apple's WWDC opening keynote looms, one prominent blogger claims that Apple may embark on a new naming scheme for its next iPhone and that battery life, speed and video capabilities will be the key selling points.

John Gruber of Daring Fireball hears that the upcoming models have been given the codename "iPhone 3GS," though whether this is simply an internal Apple moniker or the final naming scheme is uncertain. What the "S" might mean is just as indeterminate; Gruber speculates that it may be "speed," an allusion to the faster processor and additional RAM that have repeatedly been rumored as part of the update.

New, however, is an assertion that the upgraded models will have extended battery life. The new models will reportedly have "15-20 percent" more useful lifespan between charges than the iPhone 3G, addressing a common complaint about today's handsets.

The writer also recapitulates expectations for other features based on his unnamed sources, which echo many other reports: he anticipates 16GB and 32GB models priced at $199 and $299 respectively, and believes that Apple will emphasize video editing as one of the most important software features.

Turning more towards speculation, he adds that cheaper iPhones are likely but that he suspects any move on Apple's part is more likely to entail a large price cut on the existing 8GB iPhone 3G, which could drop to as low as $99 on a contract. Any genuinely redesigned product to fit the category isn't likely so soon, Gruber believes.

While the late outline of Apple's plans for Monday hasn't been corroborated elsewhere, the blogger has had an accurate track record as of late, detailing Apple's exact plans for unibody MacBooks just hours before they became official the same day.

[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

PatsFan83 · 06-07-2009, 08:29 PM

Does video capabilities include a front facing camera?

thebudda · 06-07-2009, 08:31 PM

New, however, is an assertion that the upgraded models will have extended battery life. The new models will reportedly have "15-20 percent" more useful lifespan between charges than the iPhone 3G.

Hasn't this been out for a couple of months? Didn't Apple mention that part of 3.0 was improved battery life? I need to be an analyst.

solipsism · 06-07-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebudda

Hasn't this been out for a couple of months? Didn't Apple mention that part of 3.0 was improved battery life? I need to be an analyst.

We expect that each OS revision will be a little more power efficient (thought 15-20% won’t liekyl happen with just an OS update), but this is about the new iPhone hardware.

Footloose301 · 06-07-2009, 08:38 PM

FINALLY!

VIDEO.

Something every phone has been able to do since 2005.

Now the GF and I can get back to taking videos.

cwfrederick · 06-07-2009, 08:40 PM

hahaha, that is exactly why video alone is going be enough for me to upgrade

SpamSandwich · 06-07-2009, 08:41 PM

Excuse me.. iPhone 3GS? Do they really need to start with the awful car-like naming conventions? Blech. I guess there's no avoiding it if they are going to carry more variations in the lineup.

macapptraining · 06-07-2009, 08:41 PM

to be honest, longer battery life would be a huge plus for anyone who commutes daily for school or business. i purchased a psp for watching videos while on the train to commute daily. the iphone battery would drain and i cannot have that happen on a daily commute. this would be a great upgrade for all users who commute, students and business professionals. cannot wait for tomorrow. appleinsider is the best!

Footloose301 · 06-07-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwfrederick

hahaha, that is exactly why video alone is going be enough for me to upgrade

Yeah except I can't seem to get my iPhone to stand up on its side for filming purposes, of course.

They might need to come out with a vertical dock.

sennen · 06-07-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301

Yeah except I can't seem to get my iPhone to stand up on its side for filming purposes, of course.

They might need to come out with a vertical dock.

it's called a hand. comes free for 99.99% of the population.

solipsism · 06-07-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macapptraining

to be honest, longer battery life would be a huge plus for anyone who commutes daily for school or business. i purchased a psp for watching videos while on the train to commute daily. the iphone battery would drain and i cannot have that happen on a daily commute. this would be a great upgrade for all users who commute, students and business professionals. cannot wait for tomorrow. appleinsider is the best!

I think you may need an external battery pack. While 15-20% is nice, if the next iPhone does indeed playback 720p you may be loading higher-res video over time.

jarroyo1031 · 06-07-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFan83

Does video capabilities include a front facing camera?

Nobody can answer that at the moment.

I don't care about any new features. I'm simply ecstatic about the possibility of having better battery life.

cwfrederick · 06-07-2009, 08:59 PM

POV! haha

Rot'nApple · 06-07-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

Excuse me.. iPhone 3GS? Do they really need to start with the awful car-like naming conventions? Blech. I guess there's no avoiding it if they are going to carry more variations in the lineup.

So the next iPhone that comes out with faster processor, more RAM, will be called the iPhone 3GSS, the SS standing for "Super Sonic"!

Apple should just designate it the iPhone. Why change Apple's simplicity for naming it's products like iMac. It gets improved, still called the iMac! Same for MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Mac Mini, and Power Mac.

Don't need an HP scheme like they have for the HP Pavilion Elite m9500z series, HP Pavilion Elite m9500t series, HP Pavilion Elite d5200t ATX series, or HP Pavilion Elite m9600t series.

charlituna · 06-07-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sennen

it's called a hand. comes free for 99.99% of the population.

maybe it's otherwise occupied.

solipsism · 06-07-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot'nApple

So the next iPhone that comes out with faster processor, more RAM, will be called the iPhone 3GSS, the SS standing for "Super Sonic"!

Apple should just designate it the iPhone. Why change Apple's simplicity for naming it's products like iMac. It gets improved, still called the iMac! Same for MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Mac Mini, and Power Mac.

Don't need an HP scheme like they have for the HP Pavilion Elite m9500z series, HP Pavilion Elite m9500t series, HP Pavilion Elite d5200t ATX series, or HP Pavilion Elite m9600t series.

That article states that ’S’ stands for the CPU, RAM, but since it’s appended to ‘3G’ I think it’s more likely that it’s referring to the faster up and down speeds of HSUPA that is expected with this new phone.

That said, I don’t think Apple would name the device something odd like that. It’s just not Apple-ish. I think iPhone Video makes the most since at this point.

NasserAE · 06-07-2009, 09:10 PM

Is it possible that the new iPhone will use integrated solar panels to use the light from LCD? I believe Apple already patent that but is the technology there yet?

They should call it iPhone without any additions.

bwik · 06-07-2009, 09:16 PM

Finally, a telephone that can edit video, fold proteins and find a cure for cancer, while it gives YOU cancer! As with all religions, the iPhone is the cause of, and solution to all your problems.

mrussell784 · 06-07-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlituna

maybe it's otherwise occupied.

haahaha so true

Wayfarer · 06-07-2009, 09:18 PM

Enough about the iPhone...

As long as I get my snappy new Snow Leopard with Marble served on the side, I'll be perfectly happy.

jarroyo1031 · 06-07-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwik

Finally, a telephone that can edit video, fold proteins and find a cure for cancer, while it gives YOU cancer! As with all religions, the iPhone is the cause of, and solution to all your problems.

hahaha

MacTripper · 06-07-2009, 09:20 PM

.....

eh270 · 06-07-2009, 09:20 PM

apple ii gs > apple 3 gs

MsNly · 06-07-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwik

Finally, a telephone that can edit video, fold proteins and find a cure for cancer, while it gives YOU cancer! As with all religions, the iPhone is the cause of, and solution to all your problems.

*Gets on ground and begins to pray in the direction of Cupertino.*

jarroyo1031 · 06-07-2009, 09:23 PM

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I was just wondering where I could watch the live stream of WWDC 2009?

Thanks

alectheking · 06-07-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarroyo1031

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I was just wondering where I could watch the live stream of WWDC 2009?

Thanks

No such thing I believe. You can read live updates though, thats what I'll be doing.

Wayfarer · 06-07-2009, 09:25 PM

condolences. to make this relevant, was this allegedly taken by the new iphone?

Sk8MusicLife64 · 06-07-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot'nApple

So the next iPhone that comes out with faster processor, more RAM, will be called the iPhone 3GSS, the SS standing for "Super Sonic"!

Apple should just designate it the iPhone. Why change Apple's simplicity for naming it's products like iMac. It gets improved, still called the iMac! Same for MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Mac Mini, and Power Mac.

Don't need an HP scheme like they have for the HP Pavilion Elite m9500z series, HP Pavilion Elite m9500t series, HP Pavilion Elite d5200t ATX series, or HP Pavilion Elite m9600t series.

Haha. I was trying to find my friend a new battery for his HP and it was impossible not only to figure out what model he had, but to find the exact battery for his HP Pavilion dv6000 CTO Elite

BTW, we're past the Power Mac (on the Mac Pro)

swirlygirl · 06-07-2009, 09:30 PM

where can you find live updates from wwdc?
many thanks!

**JeffDM** · 06-07-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301

FINALLY!

VIDEO.

Something every phone has been able to do since 2005.

Now the GF and I can get back to taking videos.

How many of those videos taken on a cell phone are watchable?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sennen

it's called a hand. comes free for 99.99% of the population.

Come on now, really? You can't see how that's not always a convenient or optimal system? Not to mention, usually not very stable? Tripods are made and used for a reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eh270

apple ii gs > apple 3 gs

Flash from the past. Though the name sounds a little awkward and not like what Apple does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alectheking

No such thing I believe. You can read live updates though, thats what I'll be doing.

Apple hasn't had a public live even stream in maybe five years. It also used to be that it was broadcast on an occasional video satellite channel, anyone with the right equipment can pick it up, but I think they did away with that too.

skate71290 · 06-07-2009, 09:37 PM

Check this link:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment....5&d=1244312440

If they release this tomorrow i will run 20 miles to my nearest Apple Store !!!

MacTripper · 06-07-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

condolences. to make this relevant, was this allegedly taken by the new iphone?

That would be something for sure!

Thai's love the iPhone and are waiting for the next release.

(Ok, moderator I see. Will behave.)

**JeffDM** · 06-07-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skate71290

Check this link:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment....5&d=1244312440

If they release this tomorrow i will run 20 miles to my nearest Apple Store !!!

That looks interesting, but it doesn't seem quite right.

Also, I would hope that Apple changes that vibrate enable switch. It's so easy to accidentally toggle. I think it should be more like the hold switches on some of their older iPods, I can't say I've ever accidentally toggled those switches.

drjjones · 06-07-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swirlygirl

where can you find live updates from wwdc?
many thanks!

macworld does updates

over · 06-07-2009, 09:51 PM

I'm just sick that this story/forum thread is at the top of Google News.
I really wish I believed that Hell existed, because that's the appropriate place for people who think what Apple does is newsworthy.

alectheking · 06-07-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swirlygirl

where can you find live updates from wwdc?
many thanks!

I usually go through digg.com and categorize it into only Apple through the technology menu. There you can find live updates, or just Google. Shouldn't be to hard there is usually tons of different reporters covering these Apple events, and this one WILL be big!

Bageljoey · 06-07-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot'nApple

So the next iPhone that comes out with faster processor, more RAM, will be called the iPhone 3GSS, the SS standing for "Super Sonic"!

Apple should just designate it the iPhone. Why change Apple's simplicity for naming it's products like iMac. It gets improved, still called the iMac! Same for MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Mac Mini, and Power Mac.

Don't need an HP scheme like they have for the HP Pavilion Elite m9500z series, HP Pavilion Elite m9500t series, HP Pavilion Elite d5200t ATX series, or HP Pavilion Elite m9600t series.

I don't know about that. HP needs all those names because they are selling them all at the same time (along with a few dozen other models).
With Apple, they keep a slim lineup so there is less confusion. Still, every new model has its identifiers, even if the general public isn't aware of it. So the 3GS might be the identifier, but to 95% of the buyers, it will the the "iPhone" with maybe the MB count to identify it.

For example, I am typing this on a 15" PowerBook. But if I need a part, it is a 15" Titanium PowerBook G4 1GHz.

alectheking · 06-07-2009, 09:52 PM

Leave then.

ascii · 06-07-2009, 09:54 PM

When Apple do something they do it right, so if this new iPhone is all about video, it will be the videoingest phone of them all. We will all know in 16hrs.

Bageljoey · 06-07-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by over

I'm just sick that this story/forum thread is at the top of Google News.
I really wish I believed that Hell existed, because that's the appropriate place for people who think what Apple does is newsworthy.

I'm just sick that you will never log back on to see all my tongues sticking out at you...

06-07-2009, 08:21 PM	#1
*AppleInsider* Kasper's Automated Slave Join Date: Nov 1997 Posts: 6,151	Last-minute rumor: iPhone 3GS with longer battery life at WWDC As Apple's WWDC opening keynote looms, one prominent blogger claims that Apple may embark on a new naming scheme for its next iPhone and that battery life, speed and video capabilities will be the key selling points. John Gruber of Daring Fireball hears that the upcoming models have been given the codename "iPhone 3GS," though whether this is simply an internal Apple moniker or the final naming scheme is uncertain. What the "S" might mean is just as indeterminate; Gruber speculates that it may be "speed," an allusion to the faster processor and additional RAM that have repeatedly been rumored as part of the update. New, however, is an assertion that the upgraded models will have extended battery life. The new models will reportedly have "15-20 percent" more useful lifespan between charges than the iPhone 3G, addressing a common complaint about today's handsets. The writer also recapitulates expectations for other features based on his unnamed sources, which echo many other reports: he anticipates 16GB and 32GB models priced at $199 and $299 respectively, and believes that Apple will emphasize video editing as one of the most important software features. Turning more towards speculation, he adds that cheaper iPhones are likely but that he suspects any move on Apple's part is more likely to entail a large price cut on the existing 8GB iPhone 3G, which could drop to as low as $99 on a contract. Any genuinely redesigned product to fit the category isn't likely so soon, Gruber believes. While the late outline of Apple's plans for Monday hasn't been corroborated elsewhere, the blogger has had an accurate track record as of late, detailing Apple's exact plans for unibody MacBooks just hours before they became official the same day. [ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]

06-07-2009, 08:31 PM	#3
thebudda Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	Umm... New, however, is an assertion that the upgraded models will have extended battery life. The new models will reportedly have "15-20 percent" more useful lifespan between charges than the iPhone 3G. Hasn't this been out for a couple of months? Didn't Apple mention that part of 3.0 was improved battery life? I need to be an analyst.

06-07-2009, 08:38 PM	#5
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06-07-2009, 08:41 PM	#7
SpamSandwich Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,453	Excuse me.. iPhone 3GS? Do they really need to start with the awful car-like naming conventions? Blech. I guess there's no avoiding it if they are going to carry more variations in the lineup. "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground." —Thomas Jefferson Proud AAPL stock owner. Last edited by SpamSandwich; 06-07-2009 at 08:53 PM..

06-07-2009, 08:41 PM	#8
macapptraining Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14	to be honest, longer battery life would be a huge plus for anyone who commutes daily for school or business. i purchased a psp for watching videos while on the train to commute daily. the iphone battery would drain and i cannot have that happen on a daily commute. this would be a great upgrade for all users who commute, students and business professionals. cannot wait for tomorrow. appleinsider is the best! www.ComputerAppTraining.com - Video Tutorials for Macintosh Applications www.TechMonsterz.net - All things technology, and then some

06-07-2009, 08:29 PM	#2
PatsFan83 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 76	Does video capabilities include a front facing camera?

06-07-2009, 08:40 PM	#6
cwfrederick Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 44	hahaha, that is exactly why video alone is going be enough for me to upgrade

06-07-2009, 08:59 PM	#13
cwfrederick Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 44	POV! haha

06-07-2009, 09:10 PM	#17
NasserAE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,066	Is it possible that the new iPhone will use integrated solar panels to use the light from LCD? I believe Apple already patent that but is the technology there yet? They should call it iPhone without any additions. Nasser

06-07-2009, 09:16 PM	#18
bwik Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 186	Finally, a telephone that can edit video, fold proteins and find a cure for cancer, while it gives YOU cancer! As with all religions, the iPhone is the cause of, and solution to all your problems.

06-07-2009, 09:18 PM	#20
Wayfarer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12	Enough about the iPhone... As long as I get my snappy new Snow Leopard with Marble served on the side, I'll be perfectly happy.

06-07-2009, 09:20 PM	#22
MacTripper Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 604	..... Glossy screens will errode consumers interest in computers because it makes it harder to see the screen around the reflections. People forced to use glossy screen computers for long hours will have physical problems eventually. See here Last edited by JeffDM; 06-07-2009 at 09:33 PM.. Reason: NO.

06-07-2009, 09:20 PM	#23
eh270 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 28	apple ii gs > apple 3 gs

06-07-2009, 09:23 PM	#25
jarroyo1031 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7	I don't want to hijack this thread, but I was just wondering where I could watch the live stream of WWDC 2009? Thanks

06-07-2009, 09:25 PM	#27
Wayfarer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12	condolences. to make this relevant, was this allegedly taken by the new iphone? Last edited by JeffDM; 06-07-2009 at 09:34 PM..

06-07-2009, 09:30 PM	#29
swirlygirl Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2	where can you find live updates from wwdc? many thanks!

06-07-2009, 09:37 PM	#31
skate71290 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13	Release This Beauty Tomorrow Check this link: http://att.macrumors.com/attachment....5&d=1244312440 If they release this tomorrow i will run 20 miles to my nearest Apple Store !!!

06-07-2009, 09:51 PM	#35
over Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1	Capitalism Sucks I'm just sick that this story/forum thread is at the top of Google News. I really wish I believed that Hell existed, because that's the appropriate place for people who think what Apple does is newsworthy.

06-07-2009, 09:52 PM	#38
alectheking Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 82	Leave then.

06-07-2009, 09:54 PM	#39
ascii Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 791	When Apple do something they do it right, so if this new iPhone is all about video, it will be the videoingest phone of them all. We will all know in 16hrs.

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