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06-08-2009, 05:43 PM
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iPhone 3G users to pay $200 premium for early upgrade to iPhone 3G S
During its presentation at WWDC Monday, Apple highlighted new pricing for the iPhone 3G and the upcoming iPhone 3G S model but didn't explain that existing iPhone 3G customers will have to pay a $200 premium to upgrade to the latest model if they want one right away.
AT&T has outlined the following prices for "new and qualifying customers": iPhone 3G S will cost $199 (16GB) and $299 (32GB).iPhone 3G will cost $99 (8GB) for new and qualifying customers.The 16 GB iPhone 3G will be available for $149 while supplies last. However, just as users seeking to buy a replacement phone face a higher cost than they originally paid for their original contract-subsidized phone, buyers seeking to upgrade from an iPhone 3G to the latest model will have to pay hundreds more, as AT&T won't subsidize the cost of another new phone by $400 after less than a year of service. An $18 upgrade fee will also be imposed by the U.S. wireless carrier. To qualify for the iPhone 3G S at the advertised $199 (16GB) and $299 (32GB) price points, existing iPhone 3G users will have to have remained customers for what appears to be a year following their purchase. That means current users who bought their iPhone 3G shortly after its launch last year will have to wait a year from their iPhone 3G purchase date to qualify for the new price. Otherwise, they'll pay either a $200 premium -- $399 for the 16GB iPhone 3G S or $499 for the 32GB iPhone 3G S -- as existing subscribers in good standing to perform an "early upgrade," in addition to signing a new two year contract. Alternatively, users can pay a $400 premium -- $599 for the 16GB iPhone 3G S or $699 for the 32GB iPhone 3G S -- to obtain a new phone with no-contract, no-commit pricing "for those who prefer not having a two-year service agreement," according to AT&T spokesperson Seth Bloom. A third alternative Bloom noted is that users "can simply continue to use their current iPhone 3G, which is eligible for the free upgrade to the new iPhone 3.0 software." Users can check their eligibly for new or early upgrade pricing at Apple's website at http://buyiphone.apple.com. The Cupertino-based company is taking early orders for the iPhone 3G S, which is scheduled for availability June 19th. A breakdown of the three AT&T customer classes and associated iPhone pricing follows: iPhone pricing for new and qualifying AT&T customers: iPhone 3G S will cost $199 (16GB) and $299 (32GB).iPhone 3G will cost $99 (8GB) and $149 (16GB).The 16 GB iPhone 3G will also be available for $149 while supplies last. iPhone pricing for early upgrade customers (iPhone 3G owners): 8GB iPhone 3G (black) will cost $299.00.16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white) will cost $399.00.32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white) will cost $499.00. No-contract, no-commit pricing: 8GB iPhone 3G (black) will cost $299.00 and 16GB (black or white) $349 while supplies last.16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white) will cost $599.00.32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white) will cost $699.00. |
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06-08-2009, 05:47 PM
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Seems pretty fair to me. I recall they did similar upgrades last time around too.
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06-08-2009, 05:48 PM
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I think the "S" stands for Snappy !!!
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06-08-2009, 05:49 PM
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Should be better for UK users
Doubt O2 will rip off the UK users like AT&T does to it's customers.
iMac, Macbook, iPhone, heck I even have iLife! :-)
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06-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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You can also cancel your account for 175 bucks and then get a new iphone 3g (S) for 199 299. Or this way you can actually sell your iphone and make another 150 to 200 bucks on top of that if you can jailbreak that bad boy.
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06-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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06-08-2009, 05:59 PM
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http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=20274 O2 is going to charge 15 pounds per month extra for 3GB tethering, and for those who are still on 3G iphone 18 months contract --- you have to pay out the rest of the contract and then buy the new iphone. |
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06-08-2009, 05:59 PM
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Lame
Apple and ATT finally get a decent purchase model and they screw the early adopters. The same idiots (like me) that they are trying to prevent from clogging up their stores and then they won't let us use the online upgrade?!!!! WTF?
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06-08-2009, 06:00 PM
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The Upgrade Policy Is Not Decided On Yet
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06-08-2009, 06:00 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:03 PM
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You only feel that you are being screwed if you don't look at it from AT&T's perspective. The iPhone is very expensive for them and they are not going to continuously eat the cost of subsidizing customers phones year after year.
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06-08-2009, 06:05 PM
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This was because the original iPhone was not subsidized, users paid full price. The situation changes once AT&T is paying half the cost of the phone.
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06-08-2009, 06:07 PM
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Then is the EDGE --> 3GS policy the same as EDGE --> 3G? I get the good low price?
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06-08-2009, 06:10 PM
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On the other hand, $49 for a family pack of Snow Leopard-BRING IT ON |
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06-08-2009, 06:13 PM
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That's how the subsidies work. That's hardly news.
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06-08-2009, 06:15 PM
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This happened last year right after the keynote - and then AT&T came out with an upgrade policy with no $200 premium a week later (and before launch.)
I'll try to find a link, but I remember this *distinctly* from last time too. |
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06-08-2009, 06:15 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:16 PM
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I posted this in the iphone thread, but it seems now there is an entire thread dedicated to it, so I'll repeat myself:
I swear you people act like you've never bought a phone before and don't understand subsidizing at all. how did you get by before the iphone? I'll explain it... again: the original iphone was unsubsidized (AT&T gave you nothing to buy the phone) this made the phone more expensive ($600) but the plans were cheaper because AT&T didn't need to recoup any costs. the iphone 3G was subsidized ($200) which means AT&T pitched in the other $400 for the phone to get more customers. However AT&T needs to recoup that money, so they charge you $20 more per month, which means over the course of 2 years, they recoup their money plus interest ($480... 24months * 20 bucks). This extra 80 bucks over two years is why AT&T allowed people how had the first gen iphone upgrade for cheap. They now were able to lock you in for 2 years and charge you more per month and get an extra 80 bucks out of you over 2 years. Now everyone who has an iphone 3G at the most has had the phone 11 months. AT&T has only recouped $220 from you from the $400 they pitched in for you to get the phone. Why would they then pitch in another $400 for you to get the new phone? If you want the new phone, AT&T is saying, okay, but you are bringing your own $400 this time. hopefully this explains everything to people who have apparently never purchased a cellphone before or never signed a contract. |
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06-08-2009, 06:17 PM
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I think that's fair. Of course, it's the only reason they won't sell me an iPhone more often than every other year.
It's probably good for me to show some restraint, anyway. |
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06-08-2009, 06:20 PM
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If you purchased 3G two weeks ago?
I wonder what AT&T's policy will be for customers who purchased an iPhone 3G just a couple weeks ago?
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06-08-2009, 06:20 PM
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Longer Battery Live, 32GB RAM & Video Recording Mean A Lot 2 Me
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06-08-2009, 06:22 PM
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Does the $99 iPhone 3G still mandate a $30/mo data plan? Because the cost of the phone isn't the issue for non-iPhone owners; it's the $80/mo minimum phone bill.
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06-08-2009, 06:25 PM
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I can understand even if I don't like the price for upgrading. The carrier is subsidizing the cost. Ok. But the fact that we have to sign a new contract just because we want to upgrade the phone is ridiculous!
This just makes it too much of a hurdle for me. |
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06-08-2009, 06:26 PM
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Any news about when new iPhone 3GS is going to launched in UK?? (please, say soon!! Can't wait now!!! hehe) |
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06-08-2009, 06:27 PM
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Actually the terms are a lot worse then what is stated in this thread!!!
Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). So if you got a new 3G contract last July you will be spending up to $699 plus $36 in upgrade/activation fees. I'm all set with that!!! |
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06-08-2009, 06:27 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:28 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:30 PM
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Pity the agnostic dyslectic. They spend all their time contemplating the existence of dog.
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06-08-2009, 06:37 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:37 PM
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Likely if you cancel your contract prior to the 2 years (maybe 88 months) , you will be considered a "non-qualified" customer. " (2) Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). " |
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06-08-2009, 06:39 PM
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This is exactly the same way it works with every phone and every major cellular provider in the US. Anyone who is surprised by this has clearly never before tried to upgrade a phone within the two year window before. Probably because prior to the iPhone, there was no compelling reason to upgrade your phone more than once every two or three years...the technology was too stagnant. The only exception to the two year rule was the original iPhone, and that was an exception only because it received no hardware subsidy. iPhone 3G received a hardware subsidy and plays by exactly the same rules that everyone else does. |
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06-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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No it doesn't AT&T reported in it's quarterly financial notes that it lost profits from subsidizing the 3G, AT&T would loose money by continously subsidizing phones for previous AT&T customers.
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06-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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So far as I can tell, AT&T is only requiring a one year wait before allowing the subsidized price.
My one year anniv. from my iPhone 3G is 7/12, which is what the website says for me to get the subsidized pricing. Prior to that date, its $200 more. My wife got my iPhone 2G and is currently eligible for the normal subsidized pricing. I have asked a few friends who also go iPhone 3G's but on different dates, theirs also show their 1 year anniv. as the date they are eligible for the subsidy. One for example is 7/17/09. Here is mine....  |
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06-08-2009, 06:42 PM
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However, iPhone 3G was subsidized meaning that in pricing the Phone AT&T is planed to get back the subsidy back through your two years contact. If you break this contract by getting another subsidized phone then you need to return to AT&T to amount that they were planning to get from you during the reminder of the contract. That's why an upgrade fee in this case does make sense. It is exactly what AT&T or any other wireless carrier does with any other subsidized phone. |
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06-08-2009, 06:43 PM
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06-08-2009, 06:45 PM
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if you have more than 1yr on your existing 3G contract you are a "Qualified Customer" so you'll get the $199/$299
As of today no one is yet a QC, because the last 3G hasn't been out a year yet. |
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06-08-2009, 06:45 PM
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If you paid full price for a new phone you would not have to sign a new contact.
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06-08-2009, 06:46 PM
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Same as every other phone line...
You buy a phone, not a subscription to a phone model. Everyone who had the original Razr had to wait two years to buy the even niftier Razr at a subsidized price. Please folks, don't make this sound like something unique to Apple. Now, ATT does let renewal dates creep a few months - I know because I was relieved to find this out on my last plain cell phone renewal, but I can't say that they do it for iPhones. At any rate, it's typical and not invented just this afternoon by Phil.
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06-08-2009, 06:49 PM
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In the Year 2011
I have been an AT&T customer since the early 90's--almost 20 years.
But I bet because of the network issues, the flubbed launches, tethering, MMS, and now this, in 2011 I will be using my iPhone 4G on the Verizon network. There is no way that Apple privately is happy with AT&T. No way. |
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