Ethernet transfer

[BuzzardsBay]

Is there anyway to speed up an ethernet transfer?

Finder says I have 60 hours remaining but I need to disconnect and move both computers in less than 48 hours. I doubt there is, but it's always worth asking.

Thanks,
Dan

[billybobsky]

what are you transfering? that is how large are the files?

and i dont believe there is a way to accelerate ethernet transfers...

[BuzzardsBay]

I'm transferring about 4600 songs, in .shn and .mp3 formats.

[billybobsky]

direct connection or through hub?

direct connections are obviously faster...but uou need a special cable for it -- non-patch that is...

You would need a crossover cable to go directly from one machine to the either. If you're going through a 100Base-T hub or switch, it shouldn't take that long. If it is 10Base-T, you're pushing, at best, 1MB/sec down the pipe, so you do the math.

I've always found that when dealing with lots of files, it is usually terribly inaccurate with its estimates.

[BuzzardsBay]

It's through my school network. T1 or T3, not sure which.

[Endymion]

[quote]Originally posted by BuzzardsBay:
<strong>It's through my school network. T1 or T3, not sure which.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, it sounds like your data rate is being capped by what your school's limit you internet connection to.

You can improve your speed dramatically if you connect with a hub and set up local IP numbers. You can probably squeeze about 7-8 megs/second on average out of a 100 base T or about 700k-1meg/second out of a 10 base T with a local connection.

If your school has a cap they could be limiting you to something like 50k/sec which would be why your transfer is taking a long time.

[BuzzardsBay]

Both computers were in a netgear hub before, but they wouldn't recognize each other. One is an XP machine and the other is my PB w/ 10.2.4

I finally got them to recognize each other by moving the apple from the hub and putting it into its own ethernet port in the wall.

O well, I'll just have to wait it out.

Out of curiousity how much does an cable cost to connect an XP machine and a OS X machine directly.

Thanks,
Dan

[Paul]

with a PB a crossover cable is not needed...

the port is auto-sensing

[BuzzardsBay]

Could please explain how I can direct transfer then? do they just need to be facing or something, because it is taking an awful long time through the network.

Thanks,
Dan

[Paul]

sorry i have no clue.. i have been using airport and F/W to do what you are doing.... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[billybobsky]

i am not certain about autodetecting in the pb ethernet port -- but really all you need to do is connect them with a ethernet cable directly -- cross over cables are as cheap as patch cables and they are available at radio shack or best buy -- your choice...

[BuzzardsBay]

When I first got my PB I bought a cross-over cable from Best Buy, but it would'nt work. I have since returned it though and cannot assess the problem. I think i read that a regular ethernet cable will work. Is this true?

Dan

[billybobsky]

2 questions...

where you using the crossover cable for connecting to your schools ethernet? if so, then no since it didnt work then a regualr patch cable shouldnt work directly between the two computers -- the reason is that the port isnt really sensing in/out and thus it wont be able to assign the in/out appropriately.

second question -- have you tried either type of cable yet -- it should be really easy to do... intuitive almost...

best of luck -- i connected two laptops for a friend via cross over cable (both dells -- she was replacing an old lap top that had been nearly destroyed because of dell's negligance with a new shiny one that they gave her because of that negligance) it wasnt hard at all -- there were some quirks with the fact that the xp computer saw the nt comp but no vice versa -- i assume the laptop under os x can see the pc no prob...

[BuzzardsBay]

I wasn't using the crossover cable to connect to the network. At the time I had both my OS X machine and my XP off the network. The crossover cable was plugged directly from the PB to the Dell, but I couldn't get them to recognize each other.

I cannot recall having tried to connect them with a regular cable though. If the ethernet doesn't finish by the time I need to shutdown I'll give it a try.

Thanks again.

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[Paul]

[quote]Originally posted by billybobsky:
<strong>2 questions...

where you using the crossover cable for connecting to your schools ethernet? if so, then no since it didnt work then a regualr patch cable shouldnt work directly between the two computers -- the reason is that the port isnt really sensing in/out and thus it wont be able to assign the in/out appropriately.</strong><hr></blockquote>

with the Ti it shouldn't matter because the 10/100/1000 port is auto-sensing....

as for networking the 2 computers.... did you try command-k from the finder and typing the IP of the PC into the box?

[torifile]

Connect the two computers using an ethernet cable, wait for each of them to get new IP addresses (169.xx.xx.xx for self-assigned) and then either:

1) Type the IP address of the XP box into the dialog that you get when you do cmd+k in the finder using this format: smb://169.xx.xx.xx (obviously replacing the xx with the right numbers) and then type your username and password.

or

2) Do this:



Start windows sharing as in the picture above and then type the information that's boxed in red in the "map network drive" on your XP box.

[BuzzardsBay]

I just tried that after restarting both computers, but the windows machine had no IP and the apple wouldn't recognize it and I need to get the info from the XP to the Apple.

[torifile]

[quote]Originally posted by BuzzardsBay:
<strong>I just tried that after restarting both computers, but the windows machine had no IP and the apple wouldn't recognize it and I need to get the info from the XP to the Apple.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It doesn't really matter which direction the information needs to go. Just use whatever works.

On the XP machine, make sure that "Obtain IP address automatically" is checked. That oughtta give the XP computer an address.

[BuzzardsBay]

Is that a control panel option?

[BuzzardsBay]

I got everything to almost work except when it tried to connect after I entered my user information i got error -47.

From my XP machine I get a prompt for my user information, but everything I enter is incorrect, I don't know what values I'm supposed to put in for my username because my password is always the same.

[BuzzardsBay]

Ok. It's all worked out now. It took less than 45 minutes to transfer via direct connect.

Thanks a lot guys.

Dan

[torifile]

[quote]Originally posted by BuzzardsBay:
<strong>Ok. It's all worked out now. It took less than 45 minutes to transfer via direct connect.

Thanks a lot guys.

Dan</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, what'd you have to do? (Just curious how you figured it out.)

[BuzzardsBay]

I tried connecting the computers directly a second time and after a restart the XP machine now had a present IP address and the error -47 wasn't poping up.

I dont know what happened, but it worked fine.

Thanks,
Dan

[torifile]

[quote]Originally posted by BuzzardsBay:
<strong>I tried connecting the computers directly a second time and after a restart the XP machine now had a present IP address and the error -47 wasn't poping up.

I dont know what happened, but it worked fine.

Thanks,
Dan</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Ah, windows.
"We don't know why it works. It just does. (Sometimes.)"

[BuzzardsBay]

[quote]Originally posted by torifile:
<strong>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Ah, windows.
"We don't know why it works. It just does. (Sometimes.)"

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly, now I need a Beer and maybe some Gin.