2Pac or Biggie

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Just want to see what other people think, my friend and I always argue who was better, and althoug there is no way to prove it because of it being prefrence, I have to say i think biggie is better, and was more talented lyrically.



my reasoning:



came out with 3 albums and was as popular if not more then 2pac



didn't even have to write lyrics down, just went in the studio, listened to the beat for like 5min and told them he was ready and would bust it out.



just listen to the lyrics, they are just more refined, flow better, and just give me a better picture in my head
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  • Reply 1 of 54
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:

    <strong>

    just listen to the lyrics, they are just more refined, flow better, and just give me a better picture in my head</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Better? Sorry, I hate rap...



    (from groverat - read the posting guidelines)



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  • Reply 2 of 54
    [quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:

    <strong>



    Better? Sorry, I hate rap...



    (from groverat - read the posting guidelines)



    [ 10-14-2002: Message edited by: groverat ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Christ Groverat...gimme a break. Biggie and TuPac have made more of an offense to society than that picture...(which is easily accessible to via the internet).



    If I posted Tupac's or Biggie's lyrics here would you censor that? Guess so...
  • Reply 3 of 54
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    If you have a problem with me removing a picture of a cut-open dead guy from your post, feel free to contact an administrator.
  • Reply 4 of 54
    My vote goes to Biggie for the reasons you stated.
  • Reply 5 of 54
    Well, that's coming from a guy who used a picture of some naked chink dude with a girl or whatever....





    But anywayz, Tupac is the greatest and no one can touch him. Biggie plain sucked.
  • Reply 6 of 54
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I did?



    I also don't think Biggie was all that talented. Tupac was a superior rapper.
  • Reply 7 of 54
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    Tupac isn't even dead, B.I.G. all the way...
  • Reply 8 of 54
    Groverat - "cut-up dead guy" = Tupac's autopsy photo...so New...he is dead...unless you saw him in a 7-11...



    And anyways...Tupac was the best...example...



    God Bless The Dead



    Rest in peace to my motha****a Biggie Smalls

    That's right boy, it's goin on

    Right here, Thug Life

    God bless the dead



    God bless the dead & buried nigga

    Don't worry if you see God first tell Him shit got worse

    I ain't mad, I know you're representin the crew

    And I can picture you in Heaven with a blunt & a brew

    **** the world, pain was a part of the game

    If you a baller, money went as quick as it came

    My role models gone or they locked in the pen

    Straight hustlas, caught up in the whirlwind

    The other day, I thought I seen my homeboy Biggie

    Sayin shit don't stop, nigga, no pity

    We all hoods, and all we ever had was dreams

    Money makin motha****as plot scandalous schemes

    In the gutter, you learn to have a criminal mind

    I was addicted to tryin, never meant to do time

    My epitaph will read "Was the last of Gs

    Kicked the shit to make the white man bleed

    God bless the dead"



    [Chorus - 2pac:]

    God bless the dead

    God bless the dead

    God bless the dead



    [2pac:]

    Man, ain't nobody promised me a thang

    I been caught up in this game

    Ever since I was a little mother****a wantin to hang

    I can see 'em in my head, pow

    Memories of my nigga but he dead now

    Lookin back in my yearbook all the years took

    Half my peers, they're stretched for years

    And if I die will they all shed tears

    Two to the dome, leave me alone, let me get my head clear

    Paranoid got me lookin in the mirror

    Behind me, life without my nine, I'd rather do the time

    See I'm old enough to know that ain't no justice

    **** the police & all the courts same way they ****ed us

    And why the hell am I locked in jail

    They let them white boys free, we be shocked as hell

    In my mind I can see it comin

    And all the time it's a plot to keep a nigga runnin

    By keepin gun & never run unless I'm comin at ya

    Cry later but for now let's enjoy the laughter

    God bless the dead



    [Chorus]



    [2pac:]

    Rest in peace to all the mother****as that passed too early

    All the young mother****as that was took in they prime

    Real mother****in Gz, this one is for you

    Yo Stretch, Biggie



    [Stretch:]

    Yo Big this is to you my nigga

    Springfield Hollis crew, Thug Life, YGz

    Sendin they respect, know I mean?

    You my nigga for life, forever

    You're always gonna be with a nigga

    No matter what, don't forget that



    I pray before I go to sleep

    "Dear God save my place before I start to eat, cause times is hard

    So I'm covered to my knees, oh why?

    Why you had to take my nigga with the rock I buy?

    You had to take a good one, a ghetto hood son, uzi weighin a ton

    Niggas terrified of comin from the young gun

    Hearin that they did it outta fear don't amaze me

    But it's mind blowin, so I'm flowin goin crazy

    Slip for cock the gun but he didn't run like a punk

    He shoulda had the gauge in the trunk

    For spunk is what he had, kid, I'd ratha attack Big

    Now ya bout to smell the aftermath of what the mack did

    Wannabe suckers wanna test, I'm tellin you, yes

    The teflon's bout to rip through your ****in vest

    Guess who? I'll make a mess of your crew quick

    The spirit Biggie Smalls and the ??? clique, yeah

    God bless the dead

    God bless the dead

    God bless the dead

    God bless the dead



    God bless they're both dead...IMO
  • Reply 9 of 54
    both suck. both dead. world moves on.
  • Reply 10 of 54
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Can someone linky me to the removed offensive material ???
  • Reply 11 of 54
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Private messages are probably best to ask for things that aren't allowed on the board.
  • Reply 12 of 54
    groverat--wow, i thought that people in texas only listened to country and western...wow., i guess i was wrong.
  • Reply 13 of 54
    gambitgambit Posts: 475member
    Pac was simply the best. Ever. There's no doubt; this shouldn't even be an issue.



    Edit: Biggie had no game, non-original recycled beats, and the dude sounded like he was eating and rapping at the same time.



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  • Reply 14 of 54
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Grover, that bit only makes sense, but since I didn't make it explicit, someone PM me?
  • Reply 15 of 54
    dallenbdallenb Posts: 142member
    I like most kinds of music, except rap. In my opinion, rap sucks ass, and so do Tu-crackhead, and Big-ass (aka: I cant stop stuffing my pie-hole with food) I think rap as a whole is the most destructive music ever produced in the US, more-so than any other kind of music in recent US history.
  • Reply 16 of 54
    gambitgambit Posts: 475member
    [quote]Originally posted by Dallenb:

    <strong>I like most kinds of music, except rap. In my opinion, rap sucks ass, and so do Tu-crackhead, and Big-ass (aka: I cant stop stuffing my pie-hole with food) I think rap as a whole is the most destructive music ever produced in the US, more-so than any other kind of music in recent US history.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's true. But the only rapper I listen to consistently is Tupac. He was more of a poet than a rapper and, while it continued until his death, his earlier work was a lot more 'true', but he had some great songs (he wrote all of his lyrics, and a lot were very deep) even at the end. The best metaphor I've ever heard was Pac's: "a rose that grew from the cracks of the concrete." Because not everything had come easy, I definitely could relate. But that's what it comes down to: what you can relate to. And I definitely relate to Pac more than that incoherent, commercialized, fat **** representing Bad Boy.



    [ 10-14-2002: Message edited by: Gambit ]</p>
  • Reply 17 of 54
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    There's a happy medium between DallenB and Gambit.



    If Tupac was "more a poet than a rapper" then the same goes for Ludacris and 2 Live Crew.



    Rap hasn't been any more destructive than rock 'n' roll.
  • Reply 18 of 54
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    i have nothing against 2pac except he was all about being hardcore it seems to me and he wasn't...biggie was about style and grace, he was bout smooth lyrics and having you picture exactly what he was saying.



    Biggie was liek an Apple computer, style, grace, overall better and more refined



    2pac was like a PC with linux...still a PC, but ahead of the rest
  • Reply 19 of 54
    dallenbdallenb Posts: 142member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>



    Rap hasn't been any more destructive than rock 'n' roll.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I disagree. Rock is usually more destructive to the singers, than the fans. However, rap is universally linked to gang violence, drive-by's, prostitutes, and drugs.
  • Reply 20 of 54
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    [quote]Originally posted by Dallenb:

    <strong>



    I disagree. Rock is usually more destructive to the singers, than the fans. However, rap is universally linked to gang violence, drive-by's, prostitutes, and drugs.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    but did rap shape those things or did those things shape rap?
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