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best band that should have been more popular but.....
a variation of the other thread....i was thinking of great bands that either didn't catch on, die too soon or were ahead of their time....
The Gang of Four....should have blown up but didn't these two did well, but should have been constant multi-million record sellers: The Buzzcocks The Ramones Fun bands that faded away: The Big Boys--texas punks The Birthday Party--young nick cave and what ever happened to The Comsat Angels?? g
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Iggy & the Stooges & Iggy Pop. Though inconsistent both incarnations could have had promise...well yeah, drugs have come into play...
I think the main reason of many good bands going unoticed have been because of the death of FM radio and MTV... Gang of Four. Good choice. But look at the survival of the "white/punk/funk" Red Hot Chilli Peppers...one of those bands that really kind of had MTV as a lifeboat for them. [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: Artman @_@ ]</p>
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Butthole Surfers. Best 80's band in my opinion. Probably would have been as popular as Nirvana got in the 90's if only their name hasn't been unspeakable, unmarketable and embarassing for the Tipper Gores of the world.
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
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[quote]Originally posted by thegelding:
<strong>a variation of the other thread....i was thinking of great bands that either didn't catch on, die too soon or were ahead of their time.... The Gang of Four....should have blown up but didn't these two did well, but should have been constant multi-million record sellers: The Buzzcocks The Ramones Fun bands that faded away: The Big Boys--texas punks The Birthday Party--young nick cave and what ever happened to The Comsat Angels?? g</strong><hr></blockquote> All those bands were great _(someone else who actually knows about the Birthday Part!?!?!?! I was their biggest fan!!) but the thing is is that some of thse bands were actually very counter-cultural, not mainstreamable --Gang-of-Four, fer instance, was intelligently critiquing capitalism in almost every song and the BParty was singing about murder and death and: "our lives are nothing but boxes full of dirt I just want to die beneath her teats I just want to make love to my zoo-music girl!!!" the live version on an EP called 'Drunk On The Popes Blood" I could not imagine NSYNC doing a copy of that song . . . the Buzzcocks are actually still making music though except the quality has become seriously hit and miss never heard o Comsat, or the Big Boys . . .
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush "Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes” --Franklin Miller. "Nothing is more real than nothing." - Samuel Beckett |
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stiff little fingers (rancid reminds me of the rigid digits)
the motors (heavy glossy power pop) the stranglers (i think the were large in europe but never caught on in the u.s.) gang of four (although you'd never know by all the gang of four fans in this forum) 22 brides (2 sisters that sound like a dark side of the bangles) suicide (scary stuff, bruce's nebraska has a suicide feel) splinter (a group beatle george produced who were good pop music) mcguiness flint (the british "band") (meaning dylan's group) |
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Wow I never thought I would see the name The Comsat Angels on this forum, they were great. John Peel (GOD) played them a lot in 1980 and because of the stuff I heard like Independence Day- " I can't relax 'cos I can't do a thing and I can't do a thing 'cos I can't relax' I went to see them support Captain Beefheart on his mad Ice Cream for Crow tour. I actually helped them get their gear into the gig and they let me hang out with them and chat, they were so friendly and great musicians also. Their career got stalled by being sued by the communication sattelite co. even though they'd nicked the name from a book. Their singer/guitarist Stephen Fellows has one of the best voices ever committed to tape and he is still going though his stuff is more ambienty than the Angels stuff. Great band.
I still hold a candle for Devo 1977- 1982. They should have been massive with their excess of ideas and riffs- way ahead of the game and outrageously good live.
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Damned
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Gang of Four, The Birthday Party, Stranglers...definitely.
Others I can think of: Fadgadget (even Frank Tovey's post-Fad stuff was great). The The Thin White Rope Tones On Tail (post-Bauhaus pre-Love & Rockets boys) The Legendary Pink Dots (weird, but great none the less) Alice Donut Cop Shoot Cop (pre-Firewater...good stuff) [edit]:spelling [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: 709 ]</p>
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Swell Maps - probably the best 70s art-punk band that nobody ever seems to mention anymore. Their Trip to Marineville LP from 1979 contains the blueprint for the first eight years of Sonic Youth's career and much of Pavement's early output...
The Fall - although I can't really imagine a world where the Fall could have been a genuinely popular band. Mark E Smith would have just gone on to do something that made everyone hate them if that'd happened. The Minutemen - I guess they were pretty popular, but they deserve to be remembered for more than just the theme music to Jackass... Trumans Water - probably the best 90s art-punk band that nobody ever seems to mention anymore. If you cloned Antennae Jimmy Semens (of the Magic Band) twice and raised the clones on a steady diet of Sonic Youth, Minor Threat, John Zorn, Sun Ra and Boredoms they might end up playing guitar like Trumans Water. |
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[quote]Originally posted by kneelbeforezod:
<strong>The Minutemen - I guess they were pretty popular, but they deserve to be remembered for more than just the theme music to Jackass...</strong><hr></blockquote> Absolutely, but the main reason they couldn't go on was because D. Boon died in a car accident. That didn't help. But I don't see why they could be held up in the same ranks as Nirvana... JUST ANOTHER SOLDIER (boon) Over 300 dead, we still got pride We've lost all our morals,we still got pride Should we fight this war in some far corner of the globe And learn how to die for some unjust cause Is this our future? Ashes are all that remain It's easy when you got pride How much pride does a dead soldier got? His life so short,no chance to even start The ones he left behind The world he'll never see But no one could deny that the soldier died with pride ...sigh. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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HAMPTON GREASE BAND.
Second worst selling double LP ever (second only to a double Yoga LP.)
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
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The Jesus Lizard
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1ghz Powerbook SuperDrive yippeeee!!!! |
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Walking on thin ice
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Wow . . . there are some obscure names bouncing around here . . . . its great!!
and: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[surprised]" /> I was going to ask if anybody had gotten the chance to see Captain Beefheart live . . . I heard some live stuff from that era, Ice Cream For Crow, it didn't seem to have the same gonzo flow as stuff like Troutmask or Mirrorman . . . but you should tell me . . . how was the show?!?
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush "Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes” --Franklin Miller. "Nothing is more real than nothing." - Samuel Beckett |
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By the way, I went to the opening of a show of his, Don Van Vliet's, paintings at the Museum Of Modern Art in SF way back when . .
and he was there . .. hobbling around on a cane and keeping well to himself and away from anybody else . . . . I like his paintings . . . and I do that 'art' stuff fer a living . . . if that means anything . . . <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> Also Martin Mull (Fernwood Tonight)is a good painter as well but definitly, Sylvester Stalone's are Shiite
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush "Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes” --Franklin Miller. "Nothing is more real than nothing." - Samuel Beckett |
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beefheart is great...but was never never gonna be popular...loved clearspot, troutmask, spotlight kid....
loved the minutemen too, and husker du but mission of burma was the best...great live too too bad the guitarist lost his hearing from too many iggy pop concerts when he was young... burma should have been huge.... shit...just posted this and thought i would google mission of burma and found they have re-united after 17 years!!! hope they come to the southwest... oh, i also enjoyed flipper <a href="http://www.here-now.org/topics/_arts/al_020225.asp" target="_blank">burma</a> [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: thegelding ]</p>
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let it be noted that my signature is from trout mask replica.
i think "willie the pimp" with zappa on the hot rats (my fave zappa) album is very accessible, my kids like it anyway! [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: superkarate monkeydeathcar ]</p> |
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[quote]Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar:
<strong>let it be noted that my signature is from trout mask replica. i think "willie the pimp" with zappa on the hot rats (my fave zappa) album is very accessible, my kids like it anyway! [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: superkarate monkeydeathcar ]</strong><hr></blockquote>You never caught the Maskara Snake post I made in another thread as a responce to your sig
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush "Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes” --Franklin Miller. "Nothing is more real than nothing." - Samuel Beckett |
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pfflam: a side note...check out this artist if you ever get the chance:
<a href="http://www.donaldrollerwilson.com/gallery.html" target="_blank">donald roller wilson</a> and <a href="http://www.chelagallery.org/performances/blaster.html" target="_blank">blaster al ackerman</a> fun stuff for the soul g
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Big Head Todd and the Monsters....
Rusted Root..... only two off the top of my head.... |
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The Verve
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[quote]Originally posted by Mr. Macintosh:
<strong>The Verve [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Macintosh ]</strong><hr></blockquote> They did "Bittersweet Symphony" of course...a pretty mind blowing song. |
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the Casbah
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okay, this ain't gonna quite count, because they are insanely popular in texas and the u.s. south -- Cowboy Mouth, from New Orleans.
got a brief record deal with MCA, but it just never went anywhere. great live band, had some good singles, too. but never got radio play, except for Jenny Says in '97/'98 (a good song, but a very radio-unfriendly song to say the least). they're still together, and the members do the occassional solo gig too. you can check 'em out at <a href="http://www.cowboymouth.com" target="_blank">CowboyMouth.com</a> or <a href="http://www.mercyland.com" target="_blank">Mercyland.com (a solid fan site)</a> another good band that i discovered when my wife and i moved up here to toronto was moxy früvous, a band of street performers originally who got a radio-friendly single released, and got notoriety from '92 to '98. imagine if barenaked ladies had become activists, and you get the idea. unfortunately, they have since gone on "indefinite hiatus," as the members have pursued their own individual interests, gotten dissillusioned with the pop scene, and their lead singer jian ghomeshi is so in love with hearing himself talk that he convinced the CBC up here in canada to give him a weekly bad talk show. ugh. at least their first and third albums are worth picking up -- Bargainville and You Will Go To The Moon. they have a fan-based website called <a href="http://www.fruvous.com" target="_blank">Früvous.com</a>, but it hasn't been updated in over a year since the band went their semi-separate ways.
When you're lovers in a dangerous time,
You're made to feel as if your love's a crime. Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. Gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight. - Bruce Cockburn, 'Lovers in a Dangerous Time' (also covered very well by Barenaked Ladies) |
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The Black Crowes.
They never got the respect they deserve. This band was as close to perfection as a band can get; their albums, songs and performances can compete with all the greats. |
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Resident Psychologist
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[quote]Originally posted by Mr. Macintosh:
<strong>The Verve [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Macintosh ]</strong><hr></blockquote> True. But they went downhill from after the release of a storm in heaven (which is absolutely kickass). It's too bad because I really liked them... |
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[quote]Originally posted by Haddock.:
<strong>The Black Crowes. </strong><hr></blockquote> Don't mean to be mean, but they are just recycled Stones circa 1973, with a tad of Aerosmith and touch of (oh shiit, the name escapes me . . . you know, typical midwest pick-up drivin style metal band with bandanas and tatoos and pushed up sleeves and long hair . . . um, did 'sweet babe of mine'?!?!?!) anyway . . .pretty much second order as far as I can tell
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush "Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes” --Franklin Miller. "Nothing is more real than nothing." - Samuel Beckett |
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Can
Butthole Surfers Brand New Heavies Inspiral Carpets (should have been way bigger than Oasis).
Episode One: A New Hope.
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Pig
Killing Joke Front Line Assembly PS: Can kicks ass! [ 02-27-2003: Message edited by: BuonRotto ]</p> |
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killing joke...hell yes...forgot that one...their self titled album is amazing....g
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[quote]Originally posted by Haddock.:
<strong>The Black Crowes. They never got the respect they deserve. This band was as close to perfection as a band can get; their albums, songs and performances can compete with all the greats.</strong><hr></blockquote> :confused: they were pretty popular i thought i vote for Echo and the Bunnymen |
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It's always completely blown my mind that "Rockaway Beach" was not a number one single for at least ten weeks. I can't imagine a better pop song. I would also love to see the Fall have a hit. It was funny enough to see the video for "Victoria" on 120 Minutes back in the day.
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Still The Clash ...
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Pearl Jam
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Eels
Episode One: A New Hope.
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Wall of Voodoo
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Cutter of Animals
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[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
<strong> Front Line Assembly </strong><hr></blockquote> FLA=Delerium=Intermix=Synaesthesia=kickass. all the groups w/ leeb and fulber are insanely great. amazing that not many people down here in the south (people here have the worst taste in music, i swear...) know anything about these musical geniuses. amazing record after record they put out--talent that very few musicians can make claims to. too bad they're no more... oh well... at least fulber's got conjure one going strong and leeb is still chugging along w/ delerium (although not quite the same anymore), but seperate they just don't have the same magic as they did together.
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Pulp-In the States anyway.
Disco 2000 is one of my favorite songs ever. Jeff
What are you up to, Norm?
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[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong> Inspiral Carpets (should have been way bigger than Oasis).</strong><hr></blockquote> I've often wondered about them, because I know Noel Gallagher was their roadie. I love Oasis, Blur, Supergrass-do you suspect I would like them? Jeff [ 02-28-2003: Message edited by: jeffyboy ]</p>
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Patti Smith Group
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[quote]Originally posted by jeffyboy:
<strong>I've often wondered about them, because I know Noel Gallagher was their roadie. I love Oasis, Blur, Supergrass-do you suspect I would like them? Jeff</strong><hr></blockquote> I don't much care for Oasis or Blur. I far prefer the darker sound of Suede to both. But ironically, the Carpets, who I love, are a bit more "pop" than Blur, if you can believe it, but they've got a sound that just sticks with you, and a string of great songs. They have a great rolling organ sound (thanks to Clint Boon) that's rare in today's pop music. My favorites are "Generations" as a single and "The Beast Inside" as a record. I met the band backstage when I saw them during the Goldfish tour and I have a fully signed copy of "Revenge of the Goldfish" complete with a drawing by Clint of the famous cow! And I've got a great promo item: a milk bottle that has the same cow on it and the words printed: "Cool as Milk". They stirred controversy during their early days by selling tour t-shirts that said "Cool as F U C K" and then releasing an EP with that same title when they got flak for it. But by all means get the greatest hits. You can't go wrong by them. [ 02-28-2003: Message edited by: tonton ]</p>
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Another incredible band that never really "made" it despite winning gaggles of fans:
The Beautiful South My favorite LP from them: Miaow Their lyrics are absolutely some of the best I've ever heard.
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[quote]They did "Bittersweet Symphony" of course...a pretty mind blowing song.<hr></blockquote>
actually, IIRC they covered that for another group who wrote it, but didn't want to sing it. it was kind of an oddball one too, like Aerosmith or something. anyway, best band that was never hugely popular? NIN other than closer they never really had a hit song, but every single (full) CD he's released has completely kicked ass. |
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