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This ain't your daddy's Adium.
![]() Back before iChat was released, I routinely switched between Adium and Fire for my chatting needs. I couldn't stand AIM's interface; so, just about anything else would do, even if it was feature-starved. Adium and Fire were both pretty weak clients back then. Fire has since added file transfer, buddy icon support, and other goodies. Adium went seemingly untouched for a long time. I still loved Adium 1.x's clean, minimalist interface, but with iChat's arrival, I had grown too dependent on the "oscar" feature set: file transfers, proper away message checking, etc. iChat's video and audio conferencing was a fantastic new set of features too, but I rarely use it and can easily live without it (or just fire up iChat when necesary). Meanwhile, Fire had added these features (minus the AV), but its interface had grown even uglier (of course, it wasn't quite a beauty queen to begin with). Enter Adium 2.0. Some time ago, development on a new Adium revved back up. Adam Iser began working on an all-new plug-in driven code base for Adium and promised new features that would match the other chat clients and make Adium much more expandable. Months passed as new developers jumped into the Adium project. Features were gradually added in and the Adium developers started looking at Gaim as a way to develop the protocols quicker. Fast forward many more weeks and builds later. Gaim hit a milestone at version 0.76 and developers were pouring its features into Adium. Now a multiple-protocol app, Adium supports AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Jabber, MSN, Napster, Trepia, and Yahoo. File transfer is implemented and works well (but there's no GUI indication of transfer success/failure/progress yet -- it just sends). On top of the new protocol support, developers have totally rewritten the interface. It maintains Adium 1.x's simplicity, but it adds features and customization galore. It has themable buddy lists... ![]() New Mac OS X-friendly preferences with new options for sound sets, emoticon sets, and icon sets (all of which are double-clickable bundles)... ![]() and an awesome new WebCore-based chat view... ![]() That's my own message view I've been tinkering with. There are plenty more that other people have designed... ![]() It is ready? Alpha? Beta? Adam Iser decided that "Adium 2.0" sounded too official, too complete to post for download anywhere. So, the developers decided to do a temporary rename to "Adium X 0.50" and increment the number with weekly builds. This less-than-1.0 title does a better job of conveying Adium's actual status. Something to keep in mind is that Adium X is a whole new app under the hood. It's not an incremental update to Adium 1.6.2. On top of that, it's still under a state of heavy flux. Things *will* break and features will come and go in the coming weeks and months. The developers label Adium X in an "alpha" state. It should be treated as such and you shouldn't expect it to to everything properly just yet. That said, I'm using it full-time now and have been for a couple of weeks. The update to the new Gaim core with proper file-transfer sealed the deal for me.How is it? For me, Adium X works beautifully. It'll hang or crash occasionally every couple of days, but otherwise it's as stable as iChat and many other titles I use regularly. I am very happy to see Adium progress as it has. My 2 cents. ![]() Your thoughts? You can get information and download from Adium X's home page, adiumx.com. Note: I am not the same Brad Smith as that name-stealing "Brad Smith" on the Adium forums. ![]() |
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So when do you post your themes and make AI's emoticons into an Adium set or whatever it has to be.
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Dude, I would love to use it, and have, but today, when I tried to open it, Adium crashed while trying to connect, and then the Crash Logger crashed. I have deleted preferences and reinstalled twice.
Thus, I have not tried .51, but how is theme handling going to work in later versions, because in .5 it did not seem very user friendly, and it seemed like something a dim-wit could do. Does it have Rendezvous support? I know it has Address Book support, which is great. The standard emoticons are not super. I wonder if it would be possible that people have their own user set themes, so that when you talk to them, you get their theme, and vice versa. Like, if I was talking to some dude who loved golf, I would be looking at his golf set theme. That would have to be a custom setting, because it would just confuse some users. ![]() |
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Adium might have been released prematurely to steal Proteus' thunder. But Proteus looks to be the more stable and final release.
As much as I like Adium, it's not ready for public consumption. That said, if you love Adium, you might love Proteus. But they cater to different crowds. |
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How do you make your own themes? I haven't read anything yet, or looked too hard, but I didn't see anything sticking out at me on how to do it. Is it easy?
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Changing the WebCore theme is still quite rough at the moment. You have to edit the actual plugin in the Adium bundle and you have to relaunch Adium for changes to take effect. The path to the files it uses is: Adium.app/Contents/PlugIns/Webkit Message View.AdiumPlugin/Contents/Resources There's no real documentation yet for redoing the WebCore view because, as I mentioned before, it's going to be changing a lot in the near future. Support for user-selectable background colors (among other things) are on the to-do list and will require modifications to any existing themes. If you just peek through the files, though, I don't think it's too difficult to figure it out. |
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I'll have to learn CSS, but I like it a lot.
I'll need to make a sound file with no sound though, as I only like sounds to tell me I got an IM from someone the first time. I also like that the buddy list tells you if they are typing or whatever...perhaps it shows I haven't used it forever? ![]()
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Preferences: Sound: Sound Set: Custom. Now, simply select and delete any events you don't want to hear. ![]() |
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Any way you can tell me how to stop the dock icon from showing people who are signing on and off?
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naw, I bet there is a preference, just dig through the preference panels. ![]() |
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I have the custom thing set up, but it still does whatever.
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I'm no real expert, but here are some ideas: Are you using Mac OS X 10.3? There are some bugs with the implementation when running on 10.2. Are you behind a firewall or proxy? Gaim (and thus Adium) doesn't support proxies. Try disabling any firewalls. Have you deleted all of your preferences? This includes ~/Library/Application Support/Adium 2.0/, ~/Library/Preferences/com.adiumX.adiumX.plist, and ~/Library/Caches/Adium/. |
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then, i bet it is a bug... it is not at 1.0 yet, although somehow at X. But, does X represent a variable, or doe sit represent 10. Like X could be the every man, the unknown...... ![]() |
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Preferences: Dock: Sow Contacts: uncheck Who connects and disconnects |
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so much. It's losing meaning because of you. |
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The only way I can pee on me is by using a pipe. It is my "tag."
For Adium, one thing I don't like is that there is no border on the Buddy List window, which I have gotten used to on the iChat, the fatness of the window... also,where do i set buddy icon? ![]() |
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I'd like to be able to put the buddy list in the lower corner of my screen and then it extend up instead of down, but it's not that smart. Wish they'd fix that.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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well, no ICQ=no deal for me. although fire is anemic in a lot of areas, at least it connects to the protocols people i talk to use.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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alcimedes, I'm not at my computer so I'm not entirely sure if this will work, but I believe when you create a new account, one of the options is "AIM/ICQ" or something along those lines. Since ICQ and AIM seem to work together pretty well, maybe you can actually use your ICQ number when creating a new AIM account.
Some day, when I'm awfully low, when the world is cold,
I will feel a glow just thinking of you... and the way you look tonight. - Frank Sinatra |
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Yes, the AIM network supports ICQ; so, I would suggest trying the AIM/ICQ account option.
I've never used ICQ. So, I'd like to see if this works for you, alcimedes. |
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hmm, sounds like a plan, i'll give it a try, let you know how it works out.
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ICQ options works great.
"There is one profession and one only, namely architecture, in which progress is not considered necessary, where laziness is enthroned, and in which the reference is always to yesterday." -Le Corbusier
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Last night I registered an ICQ number and added the one person I know who uses the service to my buddy list. Worked fine.
I am wondering - are they planning to add some sort of message or progress dialog for file transfers? I have sent a few files, and it's awesome that Adium can now do that, but it would be nice to have some sort of confirmation. Even just a message saying "Your file was sent" so I know it was.
Some day, when I'm awfully low, when the world is cold,
I will feel a glow just thinking of you... and the way you look tonight. - Frank Sinatra |
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File transfer is literally brand new. It's just over a week old and the bare bones are just in place for interfacing with Gaim's file transfer code. Getting a real GUI hooked up for it is on the to-do list.
Since Adium is open source, one of the reasons (I suspect) for publicizing the 0.50+ builds is to rally a little more developer support. Previously, you would only find these new 2.0 builds if you actively went looking for a new version of Adium because Adam had specifically not wanted the underdeveloped versions to be floating around sites like MacUpdate and VersionTracker, giving Adium a bad name. So, if anyone out there wants to get their feet wet with a little Cocoa programming, snag the CVS and poke around in the code. Several of the Adium developers got their first start with Cocoa by tinkering with Adium's source. Adam and the gang would gladly accept any new submissions to squash bugs or add features like this that people would expect. |
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icq worked like a charm. (that's where all the real tech folks are anyway).
two things. where do i get hte domo-kun icon for adium, and where's the strong bad chat window option? ![]() good stuff. |
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Do either Adium or Proteus have the same amount of compatibility (or more!) of AIM X? Mac AIM itself is pretty crappy with compatibility and with each "update" it gets buggier. For example it frequently hangs on quit, hangs out of the blue, or two weird issues I've seen: 1) takes a while to get Info. 2) rarer: the mouse button "hangs". Only on my external mouse, when I hit the trackpad it unclicks. Anyhow I had never even considered Adium before because I file transfer every day. Thanks for the input.
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"It's all bullshit as far as I'm concerned, until I actually see the thing working faster." -Ireland on 10.6 |
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I've never seen those problems with Adium. User info always pops up instantaneously as I scrub over my contact list (it appears in a tooltip).I don't know about Proteus 4's features. It's supposed to be released this week. Someone else can make a thread about Proteus if wanted. ![]() Here's a quick rundown of Adium's features (mostly from just skimming over the preferences). I've italicized the features that AIM does not offer and put in bold the features that are basically the same as AIM's.
What does AIM offer that Adium doesn't?
That's all I can think of right now. I'm tired and I've got other work to do. Download it and give it a try. It's free; so, you've got nothing to lose. |
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edit: sorry, redundant post...
I like the strongbad email theme, where can I get it?
Worst...Signature...Ever
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OK I just tried Adium out. Niiice.
"Overpopulation and climate change are serious shit." Gilsch
"It's all bullshit as far as I'm concerned, until I actually see the thing working faster." -Ireland on 10.6 |
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I've been using Adium 2 (X, whatever) for about four months now as my full time client and I love it. Highly recommended.
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