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Old 07-16-2004, 08:53 AM   #1
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Bobby Fischer arrested.....

....in Japan.

BBC link.

I was always a big fan - one of the greatest players ever imo although Go is more my game than chess. Knew he had disappeared but didn't realise there was a warrant out.

Recently there were rumours that he was playing several (all time classic) games on the net under an alias. No-one knew for sure it was him but it was someone with a very similar style.

Sad really. Guess he just couldn't handle it.


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Old 07-16-2004, 09:36 AM   #2
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How pathetic, a man arresteed for playing a game of chess 10 years ago!
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:19 AM   #3
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I agree, this man obviously wants nothing more than to be left alone and is being arrested largely due to his famous chess play.
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:41 AM   #4
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Looks like he is being used as a pawn in an international game.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:15 PM   #5
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This is terrible. prosecuted for having playing chess 12 years ago. Which prosecutor will be ridicule enough to charge him ?

I am ready to sign a petition to free him. The cold war chess propaganda have cease with the fall of the Berlin's wall.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:18 PM   #6
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Good to see our resources being spent on prosecuting truly important criminal activity. Go get 'em Ashcroft!


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Old 07-16-2004, 02:59 PM   #7
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Wrong, he should be prosecuted. He violated an Executive Order "Executive Order 12810". he can't merely be forgotten.

And no, he doesn't only want to be left alone, he spends his time travelling and spouting incredibly absurd and hateful anti-jewish and anti-American broadcasts on any radio that will have him . . . he is a very big celebrity who is also a seriously disturbed nutcase who loves more than anything to spread his views through any means.

here is a very good Biographical article: Fischer's Pathetic Endgame


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Old 07-16-2004, 03:06 PM   #8
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Soooo... He should be prosecuted for playing in Yugoslavia when he wasn´t allowed because he is spewing anti american and -jewish spew and is a nutcase?


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Old 07-16-2004, 03:08 PM   #9
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Wrong, he should be prosecuted. He violated an Executive Order "Executive Order 12810". he can't merely be forgotten.

And no, he doesn't only want to be left alone, he spends his time travelling and spouting incredibly absurd and hateful anti-jewish and anti-American broadcasts on any radio that will have him . . . he is a very big celebrity who is also a seriously disturbed nutcase who loves more than anything to spread his views through any means.

here is a very good Biographical article: Fischer's Pathetic Endgame
I have ignored this part of his personality. In this case, better to see him hidden somewhere.
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:27 PM   #10
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Yeah, let's start locking everyone up for going places our government says we can't and for saying offensive things!

YAY @ FASCISM!!!


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Old 07-16-2004, 04:12 PM   #11
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Yeah, let's start locking everyone up for going places our government says we can't and for saying offensive things!

YAY @ FASCISM!!!
But that's how the law works. If you break it you pay. If you willfully go to Yugoslavia when sanctions are in place then you've broken the law. If you go to Yugo to play chess for a 3+ million dollar pot then you've broken the law. Now, Fisher's outspoken ideas about jews haven't helped him but he wasn't arrested for being a jew hater. He is being detained for and will possible be extradited to the US because he broke the law.


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Old 07-16-2004, 04:17 PM   #12
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But that's how the law works. If you break it you pay. If you willfully go to Yugoslavia when sanctions are in place then you've broken the law. If you go to Yugo to play chess for a 3+ million dollar pot then you've broken the law. Now, Fisher's outspoken ideas about jews haven't helped him but he wasn't arrested for being a jew hater. He is being detained for and will possible be extradited to the US because he broke the law.
Yes, but this particular law, have much to do with politic than traditional morale.
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:25 PM   #13
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Yeah, let's start locking everyone up for going places our government says we can't and for saying offensive things!

YAY @ FASCISM!!!
It's ironic that Fisher is a facist--he has preached holocaust denial and believes in a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:29 PM   #14
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Chess genius are often egocentrist people.

There is not so many kind poeple among them, I am afraid.
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Old 07-16-2004, 05:06 PM   #15
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Old 07-16-2004, 05:38 PM   #16
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Good to see our resources being spent on prosecuting truly important criminal activity. Go get 'em Ashcroft!

He is clearly using his position in the Chess community to stir up anti-American sentiment. There is rumor he was in Japan to meet that Japanese subway terrorist guy. Never can be too careful in Bush's brave new world! I mean really, don't you feel safer now knowing this guy who willfully disobeyed his government to play chess, is now going to pay for his crimes? I'm sure he'll be in custody at Guantanamo before the month is over...


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He was sending hidden messages to terror cells with his online chess games.

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Old 07-16-2004, 06:23 PM   #18
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Chess genius are often egocentrist people.

There is not so many kind poeple among them, I am afraid.
So true. It takes a mean mindset to play competitive chess. There is no peace, love, empathy or collaboration in that game. It is also male-dominated.

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Old 07-16-2004, 06:31 PM   #19
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He is clearly using his position in the Chess community to stir up anti-American sentiment. There is rumor he was in Japan to meet that Japanese subway terrorist guy. Never can be too careful in Bush's brave new world! I mean really, don't you feel safer now knowing this guy who willfully disobeyed his government to play chess, is now going to pay for his crimes? I'm sure he'll be in custody at Guantanamo before the month is over...
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:49 PM   #20
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Soooo... He should be prosecuted for playing in Yugoslavia when he wasn´t allowed because he is spewing anti american and -jewish spew and is a nutcase?
My post was a response to two seperate posts above:

In one part I said he should be arrested for breaking the law . . .a law given through direct Executive order. If he felt that the law was unjust then he could have attempted to do something about it through legal means, but he didn't.

Then,
in a completely different paragraph,
I responded to the idea that he is merely a nice guy that wants only to be left alone:
which is apparently not true.

He doesn't want to be left alone, he wants to use forms of media to desseminate his ideas, ideas that are hateful and paranoid
This has nothing to do with his arrest.

In the course of a trail it will probably be found that he is at least borderline schizo/paranoid and might actually find some relief through therapy as well as avoid hard jail time.

This (in a completely different paragraph) also has nothing to do with 'fascism' except insofar as he admires Hitler's 'ability to force his will on the world'


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In case I have to spell it out for you, he's mentally ill. The guy is paranoid schizo, which is kinda ironic, given that the US gov't is out to get him.


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In case I have to spell it out for you, he's mentally ill. The guy is paranoid schizo, which is kinda ironic, given that the US gov't is out to get him.


"[Saddam's] a bad guy. He's a terrible guy and he should go. But I don't think it's worth 800 troops dead, 4500 wounded -- some of them terribly -- $200 billion of our treasury and counting, and our reputation and our image in the world, particularly in that region, shattered."
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In case I have to spell it out for you, he's mentally ill. The guy is paranoid schizo, which is kinda ironic, given that the US gov't is out to get him.
I'm not sure you're posting a response to me . . . but you will note that I too recognized that he is mentally ill . . . perhaps, strangely enough, maybe he now can get some kind of help . . .


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Old 07-17-2004, 03:36 PM   #24
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In case I have to spell it out for you, he's mentally ill. The guy is paranoid schizo, which is kinda ironic, given that the US gov't is out to get him.
Might be, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. He could just be a really weird guy. And I'm not sure a schizophrenic would be capable of playing chess at such a high level.
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Might be, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. He could just be a really weird guy. And I'm not sure a schizophrenic would be capable of playing chess at such a high level.
I don't see why.
I don't say he is a schizophrenic either.
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