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Old 09-22-2004, 05:51 PM   #1
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G5 Powerbooks to be release in 1 month.

I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:57 PM   #2
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I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
From the evidence you present here, I would say yes.
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Old 09-22-2004, 07:18 PM   #3
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I am sold.
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Old 09-22-2004, 07:34 PM   #4
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I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
You make a very compelling argument.
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:00 PM   #5
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I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
Can I get mine with an optional Elvis clone? Maybe a Bermuda triangle proof GPS system? Anti-alien abduction security system?

Why doesn't AI make people post 100 posts before giving them the chance to post to future hardware?


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Old 09-22-2004, 08:16 PM   #6
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If your gullible.... your gullible...

100 posts or not

Maybe a rule where if you heard it from an "Apple Store Guy" or a "Vendor" the post gets automatically locked!


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Old 09-22-2004, 08:33 PM   #7
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Can I get mine with an optional Elvis clone? Maybe a Bermuda triangle proof GPS system? Anti-alien abduction security system?

Why doesn't AI make people post 100 posts before giving them the chance to post to future hardware?

way to ruin it. this guy paints such a vivid picture of the new Powerbook G5 and you go overboard.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:01 PM   #8
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yevgeny

- take your pick!
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:57 PM   #9
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And Future Hardware slides even deeper into the muck.

Minimum post counts for thread starting privileges will never happen…because it makes too much sense.


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Old 09-22-2004, 10:37 PM   #10
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I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
I can corroborate this information. My cat said "mrowr... mrowr... meow... purrrrr"

Which clearly indicates a 10 Ghz septuple processor Platinum and particleboard enclosed Powerbook only a few days away.

Honest.

My cat knows these things.


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Old 09-22-2004, 10:48 PM   #11
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Considering the reports at mac rumors + steve wanting to release + another rep stating the same for 2nd qtr 2004, it is not out of the question.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:23 PM   #12
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In all seriousness, I wouldn't be too shocked. Points:

1. Apple has released new PowerBook specs in the power management extensions in 10.3.5 which equate to PowerPC 970fx.

2. PowerBook revs are due.

3. Christmas is coming.

4. Seeing how Freescale/Motorola has bumped the speed of their latest G4s (7455 and 7447) a whopping 133MHz in the past year, things do not bode well. There is reportedly (TBA in October, we think) a 7448 CPU in development, but that product will not be ready for release in an Apple product in at least 6 months, with no huge gain (1.6GHz reportedly) in speed. This almost signals an end is nearing for Moto/Freescale involvement in Apple products.

5. The "consumer" desktop is faster and cheaper than their "professional" portable.

6. IBM has pretty much gotten over the 90nm curve and the manufacturing process is ironed out.

7. Steve Jobs cannot stand having such a stagnated professional line.

Now granted, Apple has said that people shouldn't be holding their collective breath waiting for a PowerBook G5, but I think that is just marketing-speak for not wanting to kill the final PowerBook G4 sales.

However, this rumor is based on what exactly? What vendor are you referring to?


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Old 09-22-2004, 11:31 PM   #13
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Next time anyone posts these unsubstantiated threads please do us all a favor and add a question mark to the end of the thread title so that we can steer clear of it without feeling like we're missing out. Mmmkay?

Like so: G5 Powerbooks to be release(d) in 1 month?


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Old 09-23-2004, 01:38 AM   #14
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I knew this thread was going to be frivolous the moment I saw its title. Anyone who remotely follows the beat knows Apple has publicly said repeatedly not to expect a G5 in a portable "anytime soon," or "at least not this year."

I think these types of threads should be locked and deleted. It takes away from the constructive comments and dialog this board has built its reputation on. This isn't the SpyMac forums.


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Old 09-23-2004, 09:00 AM   #15
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but we have seen a lot of "lock" rumors that turned out not to be true and a lot of rumors that the general AI population thought to be bunk that turned out to be true. Plus eventually there will be a G5 powerbook. So why not?
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Old 09-23-2004, 11:45 AM   #16
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Old 09-23-2004, 11:56 AM   #17
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I can corroborate this information. My cat said "mrowr... mrowr... meow... purrrrr"

Which clearly indicates a 10 Ghz septuple processor Platinum and particleboard enclosed Powerbook only a few days away.

Honest.

My cat knows these things.
Your cat bahhh! How could he break his non-disclosure agreement with Apple?
Their lawyers would hand him his feline ass on a platter. No more likely the mother ship is beaming messages to him against his will.....
Besides my neighbors pool man's brother-in-law's cousin's gardener's sister works for Apple or something or other says the 040 is back a terabyte speeds!!


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Old 09-23-2004, 12:10 PM   #18
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Au contraire. This looks like a dead cert.

The poster's name is 'arondale'. In the Pleat-du Plessis numerological system 'a', the first letter of the alphabet, is assigned the value '1'. 'R' has '18'. The last letter of the poster's name, 'e', is the fifth letter of the alphabet, and has (of course) the value of '5'.

5.

But this is where things get interesting.

arondale started this thread with his 76th post. What's 7 + 6 ?

Exactly. 13. 1 + 3 is 4. Add the 'a' (1) to the post value, as you should, since his nick begins with the first letter of the alphabet, and you get 5. There are two 5s, bookending the name and the post count, suggesting the PowerBook will be a dualie — surprising, but you can't argue with maths.

I've worked out how to get a 'G' too, honest, but I really don't have the time to explain it here. Needless to say, this is exciting, exciting stuff.


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Old 09-23-2004, 01:11 PM   #19
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Now this is some great arithmology lesson.
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Old 09-23-2004, 03:03 PM   #20
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Old 09-23-2004, 03:08 PM   #21
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The current PPC 970 fx is too hot, to be used in a powerbook.
Perhaps a special version with low K, and SSOI will be able to bring this chip into a laptop. But there is no sign that IBM has started to use this tech for the G5.
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Old 09-23-2004, 04:42 PM   #22
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The current PPC 970 fx is too hot, to be used in a powerbook.
Perhaps a special version with low K, and SSOI will be able to bring this chip into a laptop. But there is no sign that IBM has started to use this tech for the G5.
Dude, get out of here. If we wanted to talk about stuff like that, we would be in current hardware, not future hardware.


Personally, I think that if you slap some water cooling on this powerbook, then it could be shipped in a month. Who needs fancy low k stuff? Water cooling will fix all our problems. Here's my mockup of the soon to be released powerbook running virtual PC for the G5


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Old 09-23-2004, 04:42 PM   #23
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Hmmm... a G5 in a Titanium Powerbook, that would be a nice portable grilling unit. Anybody want some bacon and eggs? Damn, the battery won't last long enough to cook the bacon and eggs.

I have to agree with Powerdoc, Apple can't put a 970FX in a 1" Powerbook, it would be too hot and take too much power. My guess is Apple is going to delay until it gets a faster G4 or a low-power G5 - maybe one is on the way, but I haven't heard a rumor about it.
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Old 09-23-2004, 04:51 PM   #24
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Dude, get out of here. If we wanted to talk about stuff like that, we would be in current hardware, not future hardware.


Personally, I think that if you slap some water cooling on this powerbook, then it could be shipped in a month. Who needs fancy low k stuff? Water cooling will fix all our problems. Here's my mockup of the soon to be released powerbook running virtual PC for the G5
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:05 PM   #25
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There may be some truth to there being a PB update round the corner. Apple are giving me a new replacement 12" powerbook, but for some reason it is likely to take at least two more weeks (already on order for one). There are a good few in stock in shops round London, but as Apple's pointlessly unbending internal beaurocracy (sp?) only allows for one to be ordered completely new from what sounds like the factory, it'll take a while. Also, while trying to find out a quicker way of getting one (I failed!) a sales rep from a major London department store said that they were out of ALL powerbooks, and that they were rumoured to be G5s. (Yeah - like he knows! )

Anyhow, on the other side of things, the US AppleStore says that a 12" PB would ship within 24 hrs - WHAT IS IT?!?!?!

So it looks like there will either have G7 "Melt your lap-tops" by yesterday, or we'll all be touting our 'kick-ass' '040s for years to come...


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Old 09-23-2004, 07:46 PM   #26
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Hmmm... a G5 in a Titanium Powerbook, that would be a nice portable grilling unit. Anybody want some bacon and eggs? Damn, the battery won't last long enough to cook the bacon and eggs.

I have to agree with Powerdoc, Apple can't put a 970FX in a 1" Powerbook, it would be too hot and take too much power. My guess is Apple is going to delay until it gets a faster G4 or a low-power G5 - maybe one is on the way, but I haven't heard a rumor about it.
They might not be able to put one into a 1" powerbook, but they could expand the powerbook line and and give us a portable G5. PC companies are putting full 3.4GHz P4s into portables -- the G5 can't be hotter than that.


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Old 09-24-2004, 03:34 AM   #27
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They might not be able to put one into a 1" powerbook, but they could expand the powerbook line and and give us a portable G5.
This is the new iMac. Well, not quite but close to that.
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Old 09-24-2004, 09:41 AM   #28
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The place to look for G5 PB progress may be the xServe page. The G5 PB is not likely to be ahead of the announcement of a 2.5 or 3.0 GHz xServe.
As the xServe is a low volume system, early low yield CPUs are likely to go there first.
The thermal budget of the xServe is quite tight, so a faster xServe implies that IBM can produce the improved dielectric in some quantity to solve the G5 thermal issues.
The improved dielectric, in turn, can lead to lower operating voltages that are more suitable for laptop use.
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Old 09-24-2004, 11:13 AM   #29
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The place to look for G5 PB progress may be the xServe page. The G5 PB is not likely to be ahead of the announcement of a 2.5 or 3.0 GHz xServe.
As the xServe is a low volume system, early low yield CPUs are likely to go there first.
The thermal budget of the xServe is quite tight, so a faster xServe implies that IBM can produce the improved dielectric in some quantity to solve the G5 thermal issues.
The improved dielectric, in turn, can lead to lower operating voltages that are more suitable for laptop use.
And on top of this is, the new iMac is the first G5-based Mac that utilizes PowerTune. On the horizon is a PowerBook7,1 PowerBook7,2 and PowerMac9,1 all utilizing 970fx with PowerTune.


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Old 09-24-2004, 12:05 PM   #30
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The PowerBook G5!


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And on top of this is, the new iMac is the first G5-based Mac that utilizes PowerTune.
How you can know that?
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:39 PM   #32
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I am not sure if this is BS, but someone just spoke to me about a vendor who is trying to pre-release a G5 Powerbook.

Is this BS?
I heard that a G5 PB is coming out the day after tomorrow AND Apple is going to outsource the hardware contract to this company..

http://go-l.com/


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Old 09-24-2004, 01:56 PM   #33
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I can see new PBs in a month or so- it is time for a refresh. I think that we will get one more iteration of G4s and then we will get G5s next summer, and G5s at about 1.8GHz. I just don't see Apple making G5 powerbooks in the next rev. Sorry, maybe I lack imagination, but there is much more to a PB than the CPU- there are also new mobo issues, power constraints of a 600MHz bus, etc.


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Old 09-24-2004, 02:27 PM   #34
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well what is apple going to do?

release a new g4 that is 33mhz faster?
announce a new mobile chip in London?
come out with g5 powerbooks in January?


they dont have a lot of options it will be interesting to see what they do because they have to make a move
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Old 09-24-2004, 03:41 PM   #35
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Here is the deal.

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New PowerBook G4 coming

As we've told you in the past, this Autumn will show us another round of PowerBook G4 series. (G5 PowerBooks will come in Spring/Summer 2005.) According to our sources, there'll be nothing radical about the next upgrade to the PBG4. We'll see the 12" model move up to 1.6 GHz, as well as the lower-end 15" model. The high end 15" and the 17" model will get the 1.8 GHz processor.
All of them are PPC 7448 processors that should run cool enough at these high rates (as cool as current PBs, our sources put it, although we find that not really 'cool' on some occasions...). The graphics card will be the ATi Mobility Radeon 9800 for 15 and 17 inch models, the 12" will - according to sources - stay at its current nVidia card but lowered in price by 100 USD. The release date for the PowerBooks has been specified as "mid to end October".
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well what is apple going to do?

release a new g4 that is 33mhz faster?
announce a new mobile chip in London?
come out with g5 powerbooks in January?
If there is no genuinely faster G4 chip available, then Apple will go with ption A, with more RAM, larger HD, and a lower price. If Apple dropped the price by 10% and bumped the options a bit, then that would make quite a few people happy. Of course, Apple can only do that for one release... not that they haven't had to do it for more than one, but it is a stopgap measure.


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Here is the deal.
Sounds like a decent hold me over upgrade. Nice video card!

A 1.8GHz CPU running on MaxBus? oh the shame!


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Old 09-24-2004, 03:49 PM   #38
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<------ Really disappointed.






looks like my wait is going to be extended till next fall, because you know they wont have a new powerbook model out by then other than bump ups.
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looks like my wait is going to be extended till next fall, because you know they wont have a new powerbook model out by then other than bump ups.
Is not the iMac G5 good for you? Do you really need a machine that can run on battery and be taken on the road?
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Is not the iMac G5 good for you? Do you really need a machine that can run on battery?


yes
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