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Visionary behind Apple's '1984' advertisement steps down
Lee Clow, creator of numerous legendary Apple ads including the iconic "1984" TV spot, has resigned from his position as chief creative officer at TBWA/Media Arts Lab.
For decades, the lab has handled TBWA's client Apple, bringing cultural cornerstones ranging from the "1984" ad that heralded the debut of the Macintosh computer to the more recent "Get a Mac" ads featuring actors John Hodgman as a PC and Justin Long as the Mac. According to AdAge, Clow, a personal friend of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, has stepped down from his position at age 66. "Media Arts Lab was founded in 2006 to serve Apple, as well as embody Mr. Clow's vision of a new type of ad agency that makes culture, rather than just commercials," the report said. TBWA was also behind Apple's "Think Different" campaign and the silhouette iPod advertisements, both made while the organization was under the helm of Clow. He has worked in advertising for more than 40 years, though his best known work has been with the Mac maker. Other memorable campaigns, according to AdAge, include the Energizer Bunny and the Taco Bell Chihuahua. Lee Clow, photo via AdAge Clow will be replaced by Duncan Milner, who has worked on Apple ads and been with TBWA since 1990. Milner has also done campaigns for Nissan, Levi's and Pedigree. This year marked the 25th anniversary of the Mac, which launched with the original Macintosh 128K on Jan. 24, 1984. It was the first mainstream computer with a mouse pointer, windowed desktop, icons and folders priced at a level that was more affordable than previous offerings, like the Lisa. The first Mac cost $2,495, while the Lisa cost four times higher. The introduction of the Macintosh was declared with the Ridley Scott-directed "1984" advertisement, which aired during the third quarter of Super Bowl XVII on Jan. 22, 1984. The 60-second TV spot was made for a budget of $900,000 and is considered to be a masterpiece in advertising. |
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Give the man a spot on the Board of Directors.
(Formerly LTD on Neowin.net) (currently *LTD* on Macrumors.com)
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I couldn't agree more, a wonderful idea. This is one of the greatest minds in advertising history and a close friend of SJ. He's the perfect choice (in my opinion). I'm sure Apple will remain in capable hands but the chemistry and vision behind SJ and Mr. Clow will be hard to replicate. A board meeting from time to time surely wouldn't conflict with his surfing schedule.
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Please don't tell me he's going to be hired or consult for Microsoft.
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I thought those Apple ads were genius, but the "Energizer Bunny"?????
That's just nothing to be proud of at all. ![]()
It was a widely held belief by the smartest people in late 1400's Europe that human knowledge and indeed civilisation itself, had advanced to such a nearly complete and perfect state, that the "end times" were certainly almost upon them.
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I remember "1984".
Guess everyone has to retire sometime, even the Great's. How come there are no other rising stars? Is it because the Greats have taken over the spotlight for so long? Or are we just dumbing down as a country?
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Gazoobee,
Your comment about one of Mr. Clow's highly recognized projects is neither helpful or kind. While you may not appreciate what his firm has done, the Bunny ads have become a highly recognized icon for batteris. (Reference http://www.usatoday.com/money/advert...-adtrack_x.htm). I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate someone publicly slamming your work as "nothing to be proud of" either. |
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Hell, maybe even more than Apple’s long running Get A Mac ads. From an advertising standpoint the energizer bunny ads were brilliant, and unlock the single ad for Apple’s 1984 ad that got revamped once and spoof several time, the Engergizer ads just kept going and going and going*. * See what I did there? ![]() |
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Wow, look who has a crush... ![]() Artists are always a sensitive lot. Chefs too. Both need a little skin thickening. Why you never send a meal back to the kitchen... but you can slam everything else. ![]()
Glossy screens will errode consumers interest in computers because it makes it harder to see the screen around the reflections.
People forced to use glossy screen computers for long hours will have physical problems eventually. See here |
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I think that 1984 ad was iconic, but the Taco Bell Chihuahua add was a rip-off. Not saying that he stole the idea but I would not acknowledge him as the creator either. http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-lawsuit_x.htm
Fat drunk and stupid may not be the best way to go through life but it is my preferred modus operandi.
You are coming to a sad realization...cancel or allow? |
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MS had half the brains in marketing and advertising as Mr. Clow's maybe Apple would have some competition in iPhone, music and handheld media player market. Someone asked me why do we enjoy Apple so much and I said look at the "1984' that's why! |
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Thanks for the memories, Mr. Clow!
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Pity the agnostic dyslectic. They spend all their time contemplating the existence of dog.
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Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.
I'm curious as to exactly what aspect of the creation was Clow's, and what was Ridley Scott's. The art direction certainly seems to have Scott's paws all over it (particularly given that it was made around the same time he would have been doing Blade Runner
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It was a widely held belief by the smartest people in late 1400's Europe that human knowledge and indeed civilisation itself, had advanced to such a nearly complete and perfect state, that the "end times" were certainly almost upon them.
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So if Microsoft did hire him, a MS "1984" commercial would fit the bill considering MS seems to always be a day late and behind the times with its innovative "cultural iconic" products... ![]()
Global Warming, Carbon Dioxide, Greenhouse Gases, Shrinking Ice Caps, Carbon Neutral, Carbon Credit, Generation Investment Management - Al Gore - "Beware the Prophet seeking Profit!" - Dennis Miller
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You know after reading this article and letting it sink in it's really a crucial time for Apple marketing on many levels. iphone competition is increasing, app store competition, a new tablet, response to Windows 7, ipod sales waning a bit, mac vs. pc becoming a little tired. I wonder if Mr. Clow will stay somewhat involved with Apple on some level or if the reigns will truly be passed on. It will be interesting to see what comes out of marketing in the next year or two. I'm sure the tablet campaign is set but the war sure does seem to be heating up on all sides.
Oh yea, and the whole Windows retail thing (joke). I'd love to see Apple rip MS in an ad with pc in his store. I'm still disgusted with MS over this. Forget the best form of flattery B.S. |
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My comment was more along the lines of how his work was being presented by this article as in being more about cultural transformation than sales. I was trying to make a distinction (as the article itself does), between "successful adverts" and the stuff that goes beyond that. The Energiser Bunny was a highly successful ad campaign, but it's the worst kind of low-brow culture, as well as being patently deceptive. For instance the whole time they were running those ads saying the Energiser batteries were the best, they were actually second best. Other brands have often beaten out Energiser batteries on a pure performance level but through some tricky wording, the perception was built that Energiser was best. That's great for the Energiser people but hardly noble or "cool" IMO. The Energiser Bunny campaign is a classic example of a single iconic advertisement that was original in itself, and only intended to run once, that was then extended into a sort of "character" simply because the audience found it bemusing, and then literally milked to death over a long, long, long period of time. Not cool, not that original, and (IMO) nothing to be proud of. I'm not saying the Energiser thing wasn't "good" or "successful" in the sense of brand building and selling batteries, but it just doesn't compare to "think different" in my book at all. I'm sure Jonathan Ive could design a really amazing dog house if he tried also, but I don't think it would be anything to put on his resume or shout about.
It was a widely held belief by the smartest people in late 1400's Europe that human knowledge and indeed civilisation itself, had advanced to such a nearly complete and perfect state, that the "end times" were certainly almost upon them.
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Btw: Apple are known for their ads as there have TV ad in TOP TEN best TV ads of all-time as described by TIME Magazine http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...691234,00.html P.S. you missed the point of my reply, since we are talking about it now, since Gazoobee said something about the "Energizer Bunny" ads that means he watched it and that is what Mr. Clow wants and his client P.P.S. you always seen to found a way to dismiss Apple's achievements, but you never have any facts! Last edited by souliisoul; 10-30-2009 at 04:43 PM.. |
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Yeah. No kidding.
I think they may have banged their head too many times while skateboarding without protective gear. ![]()
Pity the agnostic dyslectic. They spend all their time contemplating the existence of dog.
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Gazoobee,
My reaction was not over the top, but rather pragmatic. Both set of your comments show a lack of consideration for others, and a bit of snotty immaturity. YOU have a nice day! ![]() |
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Everybody works gets commented on and people do not have to like everything thats why we are human! Oh yeah, you have a nice day. Last edited by souliisoul; 10-30-2009 at 05:16 PM.. |
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Lee Clow Isn't Retiring
Lee Clow will remain Chairman of MAL, Global Creative Director of Media Arts and
Chief Creative Officer of TBWA Worldwide. |
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FLAME WAR!! Hey jef you going to let him call you that? You should hear what he says about you in PM... heehee! ![]() PSST: I'm just kidding, nobody cares jef, just relax... ![]()
Glossy screens will errode consumers interest in computers because it makes it harder to see the screen around the reflections.
People forced to use glossy screen computers for long hours will have physical problems eventually. See here |
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Exactly. The story is being misreported.
What have you done with...
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Ooo ick Duncan Milner?
Hope he does better than the train wreck he caused in St. Louis. He took a wing of the TBWA empire and ran it into the ground in less than a year. Granted it was always being carried as a mantlepiece agency for Bill Tragos (The T in TBWA) who hailed from St. Louis, and they didn't have squat for billings after Boatman's was merged into another bank, losing Chris Wigert and other creatives resulted in the wholesale conversion of a (quite) creative shop to a mere media-buy outpost.
I left the agency before he arrived, but it wasn't even 2 years before it imploded on his watch. http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/11/bu...ay-office.html http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/st...wscolumn1.html http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/11/bu...is-office.html The whole mess still smelled like a leash-yank from New York (who basically subsidized the office), and he might have been placed there during what was otherwise a standard spin-down, but who knows. Last edited by DoctorBenway; 10-30-2009 at 06:04 PM.. Reason: awkward bit after Chris |
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It's everything to be proud of in the advertising industry.
“The true measure of a man is how he treats someone that can do him absolutely no good.”
—Samuel Johnson Last edited by Xian Zhu Xuande; 10-30-2009 at 06:08 PM.. |
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Energizer bunny was copied
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in fact the energizer bunny is a copy of the duracell bunny so i agree it is nothing to be proud of- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duracell_Bunny on the other hand, i watch that 1984 ad today and it still resonates with me and i want to run out an get a mac Last edited by samanjj; 10-30-2009 at 08:36 PM.. Reason: spelling |
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All I was really saying is I think the word 'viisionary" is a bit much for someone that makes tv ads. Its not like he cured cancer. I also find it very interesting that Apple tends to make ads in the attempt to make the rest of the world look like followers when in reality Apple has far more of a cult like following. Apple hardcore followers are willing to overlook just about anything when it comes to Apple products. A good example is SL and Leopard for that matter which have both been pretty poor when it comes to stability compared to Tiger or Panther. I know you going to want a link for that but really all you have to do is go to Macfixit or the Apple discussion form related to topics on 10.6.1 hangs. For those of us that use these products I believe we can all agree the myth it just works is really just a myth. |
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Yes I do want a link, a link that shows the number of people complaining about SL versus total number of people who have bought the SL and it shows that yes SL has been poorly accepted by consumer. Unless you have those figures, then please stop the false opinion throwing, its just lame and boring now. IF SL was so bad as you say, then it would be a major story in majority newspaper/magazine reporting the IT market. P.S. There is only one "Vista" in this world and sorry but that is NOT an APPLE product ![]() Last edited by souliisoul; 10-30-2009 at 11:38 PM.. Reason: Thanks for the reply Quadra 610, just about to link some facts! |
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Lee Clow has already refuted the reporting on this story. He's still going to be involved with Apple. What happened was a re-org at his agency. That is all.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground."
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"easy. Most apple products are excellent, best in class. Their flaws are often outshone by their benefits to the user. "
It has to be best in its class seeing Apple is a closed arena so no one else competes. Its easy to be best in your class when you are the only player. The flaws lately have been pretty equal to the benefits. "a well-deserved folllowing that *actively* chooses apple. See my sig. microsoft would kill for such a following. But it's . . . Microsoft." You are really proud of that signature aren't you. Like that actually means anything. Microsoft does have a following about 90% of the market...LOL. Your links mean nothing. Unlike you i could care less what businessweek says and unlike you I have a mind of my own and go by real life experience not what some journalist writes. However I do think its rather funny yet pathetic that you save all these links. |
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