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post #361 of 484
The only quoting I see is when one site quotes another's article. However, I have seen the G5 mentioned on at least 6 sites. So either each site took a creative license with the info or the site received similar info from there own source. Either way, not much "quoting" going on.
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post #362 of 484
[quote] Im not certain but speeds are 1.0, 1.2, and 1.4 GHz. The reason 1.6 GHz may be out of the question is apparently due to Apple's lack of trust that Motorola can provide sufficient quantities in time to ship the G5. Also, mark <hr></blockquote>

1, 1.2, 1.4 are exactly the speeds I've been predicting. It would be smart of Apple to offer processors a bit slower than Moto can provide, and instead offer dual configuratoins.

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post #363 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Im not certain but speeds are 1.0, 1.2, and 1.4 GHz. The reason 1.6 GHz may be out of the question is apparently due to Apple's lack of trust that Motorola can provide sufficient quantities in time to ship the G5. Also, marketing may play a factor in what speeds they opt to intro at MWSF. Everything else seems to be pretty much in line, although no one really knows what's coming off the pipeline. Who knows.

I will try to get more info. I've e-mailed him now. I don't know when I'll get a response. I'm trying to get as much info as possible, and I'm not sure how much I can say.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hehe hehe
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[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
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1, 1.2, 1.4 are exactly the speeds I've been predicting. It would be smart of Apple to offer processors a bit slower than Moto can provide, and instead offer dual configuratoins.

MWSF is going to be sweet!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well I would put money on at least one dual, maybe a dual 1ghz in place of the 1.4ghz?
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post #365 of 484
Probably duals in the lower speeds, dual 1 GHz. Just my thought, not based on info though.
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post #366 of 484
A dual 1 GHz wouldn't make any sense if there were 1.2 and 1.4 powermacs. More likely that we see dual 1.2 powermacs.

I'd rather see a dual 1.4, but Apple has a history of making the duals the midrange...which is confusing, because then the question is, which is faster, the dual or the faster single?
post #367 of 484
I don't think 1.4 would make it in Jan. Too big a jump. THat's why I said the dual 1.0ghz making the 1.2 top end. The 1.4 would prob wait till July.

(of course assuming we see the G5 at these speeds )
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post #368 of 484
Steve's nickname will be Johnny Blaze after MWSF 2002.
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post #369 of 484
[quote]I don't think 1.4 would make it in Jan. Too big a jump. THat's why I said the dual 1.0ghz making the 1.2 top end. The 1.4 would prob wait till July <hr></blockquote>

Oh. Well, 1.4 wouldn't be too big a jump if there were a wide range of speeds, like:

867-933
1
1.2
1.2 dual
1.4

I suppose it's possible that the low end Powermacs will be G4s, and the high end will be G5s. Then Apple could charge a premium for the G5s, and make a killing on the early adopters. Then later in the year, the entire Powermac line migrates to the G5. A businessman would cream his pants at the idea of selling G5s only at $2500+ prices.
post #370 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>

Oh. Well, 1.4 wouldn't be too big a jump if there were a wide range of speeds, like:

867-933
1
1.2
1.2 dual
1.4

I suppose it's possible that the low end Powermacs will be G4s, and the high end will be G5s. Then Apple could charge a premium for the G5s, and make a killing on the early adopters. Then later in the year, the entire Powermac line migrates to the G5. A businessman would cream his pants at the idea of selling G5s only at $2500+ prices.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The thing is, is that I don't see Apple going with more then 3 models.


So I think-
1ghz
dual 1ghz (or dual 933)
1.2ghz

or something like that. I just hope they are G5s!! Or at least G4's with new system bus and DDR.
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post #371 of 484
Are these machines about which we are talking running true G5 chips or are they running Apollo G4s which could be called the "G4e"? :confused:

The issue is getting confused: perhaps we should stick to Apollo and G5 to keep things straight...

Would someone please help clarify this?

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post #372 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by Mandricard:
<strong>Are these machines about which we are talking running true G5 chips or are they running Apollo G4s which could be called the "G4e"? :confused:

The issue is getting confused: perhaps we should stick to Apollo and G5 to keep things straight...

Would someone please help clarify this?

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It all depends on who you believe and what you read.

I believe the G5s will debut in Jan. I believe that the Apollos were meant for the iMac and tiBook. The Apollo will debut in Jan like maccentral, moto and a few sites say-but that doesn't mean in a tower.

So we say G5s but to be safe we also say 'or G4s".
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post #373 of 484
Agreed, except I think the Apollo is meant for the iMac and the Titanium. The iBook will probably use a G3 until it's next major revision.

Alternatively, the Titanium could use the Apollo at one speed, and the iBook at a lower speed. Then the individual Ti and iBook models are differentiated by HDs, GPU, etc. This is a good idea for Apple, I think, because if they use only a single CPU speed for each model, it lowers manufacturing costs.
post #374 of 484
True G5.
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post #375 of 484
Tiger -

All I have to say is that you have been around here as long as a lot of us. I take your word for it but I do not think I need to remind you what happens to people here when they come here predicting this and that and it turns out they were yanking our chains...for your sake of course.

Jonathan -

I have a question. I have been curious - How does a rumor site fact check a rumor? What lends credibility to one source over another...unless of course that source has a history with correct predictions. What would an anonymous email to AI regarding fairly accurate sounding info be construed as a bad source?

the only reason I ask is in regards to your comment about the MOSR/Register mole. Now MOSR I take not even a grain of salt, but the Register has stated that this source has indeed been correct in the past. Just curious, if you can share insight that would be great.
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post #376 of 484
Bodhi,

Are you threatening tigerwoods99? What the hell is wrong with you? If Apple doesn't come out with a G5 at the Keynote, the world will not end, and you will wake up the next morning. Calm down.

After all these are message boards on a rumor site, for crying out loud, with people posting anonymously...I think abandoning credibility is necessary when you post at AI, or even read posts.

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post #377 of 484
I'm not trying to to make predictions or anything, I'm just going off what I've been told. Nobody really knows exactly what Apple will release, not even Apple employees. They may have a fair idea, but things change up until the last minute. Just trying to provide some light on the situation.
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post #378 of 484
Wow, some people take this 'rumor/speculation' thing really serious
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post #379 of 484
Sorry, tigerwoods, it wasn't my intention to imply that you were fabricating information.

I choose not to assume anything, vis a vis truthfulness or credibility.

I'm just saying, that these message boards aren't exactly SEC filing statements or set in stone--it seems pointless to get all butthurt about MOSR or people's posts when they aren't fulfilled.

So..tell us more tigerwoods. Lets talk performance..I don't care at what speed the CPU clocks at...I want instant reponse in InDesign 2.0 and to never, ever see that spinning disc again.
post #380 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>Wow, some people take this 'rumor/speculation' thing really serious </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, that's why we're here
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post #381 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>I'm not trying to to make predictions or anything, I'm just going off what I've been told. Nobody really knows exactly what Apple will release, not even Apple employees. They may have a fair idea, but things change up until the last minute. Just trying to provide some light on the situation.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, I'm pretty sure they know what will be released by now. they have to make the marketing materials, packaging, test production runs, etc.

people know, they just aren't saying
post #382 of 484
"Apple employees" Applenut, is a very general term. Fact is, only a fraction of them probably know about the G5 and new iMac. I've interned out there and I know what its like. Employees work on their own individual team projects, and they only know what they need to know to complete that project. The Apple retail team, for example, knows nothing about the products being released at MWSF.

Now the marketing people obviously know, as do the engineers of course, and case designers, but employees in these departments have no urge to leak any info, because they truly honor their NDAs, and they take such pride in Steve taking everyone by surprise at Macworld. A lot of people here would be surprised how much Apple employees working on sensitive projects truly respect the NDAs.
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post #383 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by mslee:
<strong>Bodhi,

Are you threatening tigerwoods99? What the hell is wrong with you? If Apple doesn't come out with a G5 at the Keynote, the world will not end, and you will wake up the next morning. Calm down.

After all these are message boards on a rumor site, for crying out loud, with people posting anonymously...I think abandoning credibility is necessary when you post at AI, or even read posts.

.</strong><hr></blockquote>

mslee -

Who are YOU?? Please read my post:

[quote]All I have to say is that you have been around here as long as a lot of us. I take your word for it<hr></blockquote>

I have all the respect in the world for Tiger and his "Mecury Rising" post! But I think that if you had been around here long enough, some people really took advantage of people's hopes here in the past and at times it got ugly. Not implying that Tiger is doing that at all. There was nothing threatening in the least bit in my post. And yes this is a rumor board and yes people are going to disagree with each other and yes you will not agree with everything as I will not agree with everything so just deal with it.

[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</p>
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post #384 of 484
[quote]I do not think I need to remind you what happens to people here when they come here predicting this and that and it turns out they were yanking our chains...for your sake of course. <hr></blockquote>

Well at least you didn't tell him how nice his family is.....for his sake.
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I'm starting to wonder if Apple may pull a Pismo/iBook situation here. If supplies from Mot are as tight as they seem and have been in the past then it may make more sense for Apple to announce these at MWTK. What I mean by iBook/Pismo is that when the iBooks were bumped to the Lime Green color, they were actually faster than the Powerbook at the time, just a slower bus. Apple bumped the Powerbook hard drive sizes and bundled iMovie2 with it to try and make the difference up. Could Apple actually do this again with the iMac / Powermac?

For once I am just very uncertain of a Powermac bump at MWSF. With Apple's track record this year it's obvious they are trying to prevent the "people stop buying hardware a month or more before a show" syndrome. Plus shouldn't we be seeing by now a shortened supply of Powermacs in the channel?
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post #387 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by Pegges:
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Well, that's why we're here </strong><hr></blockquote>

My post was in reply to an aggressive poster threatening another post because of predictions. Predictions and rumors are for fun, not to be taken too seriously.
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post #388 of 484
Bodhi, the iBook never outperformed the PowerBook. The Pismo G3s came out at MWT 2000 in Feb. running at 400 and 500 MHz. The key lime iBooks didn't come out until Apple Expo Paris in the Fall, and they topped out at 466 MHz.
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post #389 of 484
KidRed and EVERYONE -

In no way did I threaten anyone because of rumors, nor did I threaten anyone at all. Has anyone ever been misconstrued over email or AOL IM? Someone thought you said something that you didn't say at all, but they read it the wrong way and BAM you are accused of something? I was just telling Tiger about how some people that used to be on this board way back in the day were ridiculed for BSing about rumors, that is all. I have been a member of AI since the begininng of 1999 and have no history of this whatsoever. Jesus, give it a break. You read something wrong, let it go! Talk about taking something too seriously...it came across wrong. MOVE ON.....

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[quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:
<strong>KidRed and EVERYONE -

In no way did I threaten anyone because of rumors, nor did I threaten anyone at all. Has anyone ever been misconstrued over email or AOL IM? Someone thought you said something that you didn't say at all, but they read it the wrong way and BAM you are accused of something? I was just telling Tiger about how some people that used to be on this board way back in the day were ridiculed for BSing about rumors, that is all. I have been a member of AI since the begininng of 1999 and have no history of this whatsoever. Jesus, give it a break. You read something wrong, let it go! Talk about taking something too seriously...it came across wrong. MOVE ON.....

Aggressive poster....me....Hilarious! KidRed to the rescue!

[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Bodhi ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep, that's me You tell someone to watch what happens to someone and yea, I guess it comes off as a threat. You move on. Someone misread my post as you seem to claim about yours and I was clarifying it. So, get a grip, deal with it, we all read things differently and that's what the smiles are for. I saw none in your post so I didn't misread anything, you mis- wrote it. If i assuse you, you will know


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post #391 of 484
No way is 1.4GHz a huge jump. Maybe in terms of the PowerMac speed but for a radically different processor it's mild. It's 10-14 stage pipeline (no one has concrete info on this). That's already a huge jump from the 7 stage of the 7450. And some people can overclock those to 1GHz! Add to that the fact that it will be made using SOI on a 130nm process and 1.4GHz seems absolutely mild. But it is a new process and there is bound to be glitches. So maybe 1.4GHz is a good top end ofr now but it should quickly scale to 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0GHz as the process matures. By MWNY 2002 (if they DO release the G5 this winter) they should have 1.4, 1.6, and 1.8 in their line up.
post #392 of 484
You want me to do speed tests? LOL I'm not a prototype tester! I haven't seen a G5 or anything....I can only give information about the CPUs.

I know how that is when people take something you say online the wrong way, my girlfriend does.

Anywayz I'll try to update.
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post #393 of 484
Any one seen the latest article @ OsOpinion by Kelly McNeil
<a href="http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/15194.html" target="_blank">http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/15194.html</a>

If anything, one of the replies in the forum had an outstanding review of rumors and facts by Ed M.

<a href="http://www.osopinion.com/cgi-bin/w3t4/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=talkbackforum&Number=23 354&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5#Post23354" target="_blank">http:/ /www.osopinion.com/cgi-bin/w3t4/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=talkbackforum&Number=23 354&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5#Post23354</a>

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[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong>Any one seen the latest article @ OsOpinion by Kelly McNeil
<a href="http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/15194.html" target="_blank">http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/15194.html</a>

If anything, one of the replies in the forum had an outstanding review of rumors and facts by Ed M.

<a href="http://www.osopinion.com/cgi-bin/w3t4/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=talkbackforum&Number=23 354&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5#Post23354" target="_blank">http:/ /www.osopinion.com/cgi-bin/w3t4/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=talkbackforum&Number=23 354&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5#Post23354</a>

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I prefer to do not see G5 in january if it is to say that you can buy it one in march, we see this for the 7450 one time it's enough.

It is strange to consider that in january a new chip made for the first time from Mot with SOI like the appolo will be consider to a chip for the cheaper macs. In the future why not, but now ...
There is chance that the chip for i mac will be the sahara from IBM, and not a G4 anyway.

The G5 is on the way, but i guess january is a little short for this kind of happening. The appolo chip is not even noticed on the Motorola site, it would be a merry christmas if we see in junuary G5 for power mac, and G4 appolo for I mac. Like everyone here i would not be desapointed if such a chip was launched, but the problem with mervellous dream is to wake-up.
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TigerWoods99 writes....

[quote]The reason 1.6 GHz may be out of the question is apparently due to Apple's lack of trust that Motorola can provide sufficient quantities in time to ship the G5. <hr></blockquote>

Gee, why would Apple think that?
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post #396 of 484
[quote]Originally posted by Tarbash:
<strong>Bodhi, the iBook never outperformed the PowerBook. The Pismo G3s came out at MWT 2000 in Feb. running at 400 and 500 MHz. The key lime iBooks didn't come out until Apple Expo Paris in the Fall, and they topped out at 466 MHz.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes they topped out at 466 while the Pismo was 400MHz, and the iBook was hundreds cheaper. People thought that Apple would never do anything like that but they did. My point being that the fact that iMacs are coming in Jan. doesn't necessarily mean we will see updated Powermacs. Apple could very well do exactly what they did with the Powerbook G4, do not increase processor speed, just go from a G3 to a G4.
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post #397 of 484
powerdoc

I agree that the G5 in all probability will not be ready for MWSF in Jan., but if you read the article and especially the post by Ed M. it gives the most detailed history I've seen concerning the rumors and facts surrounding the G5.

Worth it to just copy Ed M.'s post to have easy access to the URL's.

That said, I wouldn't be disappointed to be completely wrong and the G5 come out in Jan.

Regardless, I'm up to $1630 and will be buying a new computer in Jan. I have been putting away $5 -$10 a week away for a LONG LONG LONG time to accumalate the money.
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post #398 of 484
Ok Bodhi, I understand now. I thought you meant the fastest PowerBook was 400 MHz.

I still think though that we will see new PowerMacs as well. It's been 6 months since each line has had an update and all the portables were just updated.
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post #399 of 484
Tarbash -

I hope you are right I just hope that Apple doesn't take the "we are doing things differently" approach and not update the Powermacs like everyone expects. I am getting ready to put my Powermac up for sale and I do not want to be stuck without a machine for a long time.
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Over the last few years, the surest indicator that new products were coming out has been watching the "special deals" at the Apple Store. The last month or so before release of a new product, they always run these to clean out the inventory channels.

Current specials at the Apple Store:
Free printer with iMac.
$500 off a monitor with a PowerMac.
Double RAM offer on PowerBook.

Additionally, Apple is offering 180 days free financing on all products.

All this points to major inventory clearage, and new PMs, PBs, and iMacs in January. Exactly what the new models will be, I don't care to guess (although I'm am desperately hoping for G5 PMs). I'm planning my budget for a new CPU come next month. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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