Originally Posted by Wiggin
Aborted? Dell sold the Jukebox for awhile before killing it.
A device that needs an RF card would imply that I have two accounts with my wireless carrier.
as such devices become more popular you can expect alternative billing plans. If that is not the case now it still isn't a major problem.
One for my phone and one for my internet device. So I'm essentially carrying around two independent client machines. If I send a message from one, then I need to keep that with me all the time to get the reply. They could potentially be kept in sync in "the cloud", but that seems an overly complicated solution.
I'm not at all sure where this idea cAme from but if thing are setup right there is no issue. In my case I use @mac.com and it works perfectly fine with my MBP and iPhone. They are kept in sync and I can reference mail on either machine.
I'm not sure if this is even considered cloud computing as mail has worked this way for a long time. That is why we have mail servers, it allows you to use the right client anywhere to catch your E-Mail. Worked great years ago when I use to travel a lot for work. I suppose one could look at E-Mail as one of the first cloud like apps.
Also, putting more and more functionality into an iPhone-like device is less than optimal. For some (including me), the iPhone is at the same time too small and too big.
Putting more functionality in place does not imply a bigger device. What it does imply is fewer devices. This is a key point and is one of the reasons I'd like to see FM in the iPhone, it means one less device to keep track of.
For an internet device I'd want a bigger screen. And as a phone it's too big to carry around everywhere I go. Sometimes all you want/need with you is your phone and the small, the better.
Funny I thought iPhone was to small as it is.
You are right about some things related to the Internet. Iphone is small for that at times. But it could also use flash at times. That doesn't stop me from using it very often for web stuff. Now given that iPhone needs to be larger to experience the web how about a fold out display. A clam shell would offer almost twice the display area.
My ideal solution would be to have both a small, basic functionality phone, like today's standard non-smart flip phones and then an iPod touch type of device. The phone provides the gateway to the carrier's network, and the touch tethers to the phone with Bluetooth (or uses wi-fi when available) for it's internet connection. One connection, one phone number, one account with your carrier.
I still don't know what is up with the one account thing. Since one can do this with an IPhone and a MBP already what you are asking for is possible and already here.
What you are missing is that some will want that account anyways so as pointed out Apple needs alternatives.
The phone itself would perhaps offer iPod shuffle or nano media functionality for listening to music at the gym etc. You could start with that and then add to it.
the problem is most of us like what comes on the current iPhone. Taking away features or adding a low end model won't lead to lots of sales. I just don't see the industry or consummers going backwards here.
If the touch is a big enough screen, you get that. If/when Apple later releases a larger version, you can upgrade (without having to enter into a new contract with your carrier because you are still using the same phone).
you get the same carrier swap potential with a standardized RF card slot. Just move the modem from old to new.
Or you could start with a touch and use it only on wi-fi like the current touch, but later get a phone to expand it's connectivity when your aren't near wi-fi.
The phone could stay in your pocket, backpack, purse, etc unless you are actually making a phone call. As long as it's within range for Bluetooth, you'll have a connection on your touch. And the Bluetooth connection should require less power than a cell phone connection, so the touch's battery should last longer and you can continue using it while the phone sits connected to a charger. And for the times you don't want to carry around the touch (or the larger version of it), you simply leave it at home and take your phone. And since all messages would come via the phone, you could send a message from the touch, leave it at home, but still view replies on the phone when they come in.
I think you are confused about how e-mail works.
Sure, it's two devices, but would offer far more flexibility and options for users.
the only way I can see two devices being justified is if one had a dramatically larger device. Otherwise as much functionality as is possible needs to be crammed into the iPhone sized devices.
All to get that one device per person goal meet.