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groverat 
From your link:
"We would not be issuing birth certificates of individuals not born in the state of Hawaii," - Hawaii state Registrar Dr. Alvin Onaka.
"I, and Dr. Alvin Onaka have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," - Hawaiian Health Director Chiyome Fukino.
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But the statement didn't reveal what the document contains, nor has any clarification ever been released.
While Onaka documented the need for medical records and statements from a midwife, he did not cite any independent investigative procedures for a report that would be submitted by a midwife. Also, Hawaiian law specifically allows "an adult or the legal parents of a minor child" to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document.
The only requirement for proof cited in the law doesn't address the birth of the child either, just "that the legal parents of such individual while living without Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal resident for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."
According to Jerry Fuller and Mike Persons of the passport services division of the U.S. State Department, a document such as the online COLB could be acceptable to prove U.S. citizenship for the purposes of getting a passport if it contains a certain number of components, such as time and date of birth, location and name.
Fuller also said birth certificates should reveal the location of the child's birth accurately, but he confirmed there are cases known where that has not happened.
"There are some documents that say things that aren't true," Fuller said. "That's not what's supposed to happen."
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs in recent weeks has referred repeatedly to an online image of a "Certification of Live Birth" as President Obama's "birth certificate," suggesting it documents the president's origins.
But the vagueness of the law has produced different answers at different times.
Robert Klein Engler, who writes at Chronwatch-America.com, said he called the State Department to ask about obtaining a U.S. passport with only a "Certification of Live Birth."
"I was told flat out, 'No!'" he told WND.
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Not really. It's pretty simple. Every single Hawaiian official who would know has plainly stated that Obama was born in Honolulu. There are newspapers corroborating the state evidence.
No, it really isn't that simple, as indicated by the passage I quoted above.
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This is a racist conspiracy theory.
You are the first person to mention race in this argument, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Where a person is born has nothing to do with his/her race, anyway. I wouldn't care if Obama was born in the U.K., Lithuania, or South Africa. If he is not a natural born citizen of the United States of America, then he is ineligible to hold the office of president.
And what? The information on the website originally stated that the Long Form Certificate was required, as they needed information that could be found only on that document.
You need to get out more. The conservative movement is alive and well, and certainly not represented or lead by any of the parties you referred to above.
