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Originally Posted by majortom1981 View Post

Doesnt look like an apple store to me. My local apple store is 2 counters on each side with another counter in the middle of the back and shelves all around the outside. Looks nothing like that picture.

well they can't copy too much since they don't have in house training and techs. unless they are planning to try to copy that as well

frankly that photo, if it is a model of the likely store, looks more like a small Best Buy

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post #42 of 89
this is how they should operate their stores

sign says "open" but doors are locked
"please reboot to enter"
5 different entrances for each version of sp vista
lights flicker
suddenly all sales staff freeze
they use apple software for checkout
all computers lock up showing a porn portal
you must show your virus protection software to enter
they sell condoms for the laptops
$25 to enter, $35 release fee then $45 to leave
they have a kiosk outside each store for immediate fixes for just purchased items
sales staff have black market linux and chrome os reboot disks
fog fills the store--that's their cloud
sales staff speak only dolphin language
card board people to enhance the numbers
sued for unusual punishment for sales staff
run by gateway
sales staff get to downgrade to XP

just add to the list
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post #43 of 89
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card board people to enhance the numbers

Hahahahaha!

Seriously though, they will fail. They're so pathetic.
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I have no idea what the MS stores will look like, nor what they will sell, but the idea of positioning your store near a competitor is standard practice in many retail areas. If you already have people looking at computer-y things you might as well place your store where they are, kinda thing. That's why clothes stores and furniture stores etc are always grouped together. I would think this is a big gamble for MS, however. They will need to create a buzz in their stores to match the Apple stores and that might be hard. I suspect they will focus on fan and games to draw young people and families in order to emphasize the ease of use and accessibility of the Windows experience.
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Clever ruse or is Apple really scared of the PC Hunter ads?

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...unters-ads.ars
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post #46 of 89
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Microsoft retail locations to shadow Apple's

That doesn't surprise me. MS has always been in Apple's shadow, why would now be any different?

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A Microsoft representative eventually confirmed that at least some stores will be "in proximity" to Apple's.

In other breaking news, Apple confirmed 50 new stores to be built in Alaska! Microsoft to follow...

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He wouldn't enter into a discussion of what the stores themselves would resemble other than to say they wouldn't copy Apple.

A little too late to try and pass off that "wouldn't copy Apple" thing!

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post #47 of 89
I wouldn't be too worried. Apparently it's "Life without walls", so the stores will merely be canvas canopies over a bunch of cardboard cutouts of products in wide open parking lots where there will be no windows.

Very easy to move if it doesn't work out near an Apple store.

So, their travelling show just might work.

/sarcasm
post #48 of 89
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In a not-so-subtle move, Microsoft says its retail stores will deliberately open near those run by Apple.

Good grief! Microsoft keeps copying Apple's good ideas and is now putting their stores near Apple's. They're like the geeky little kid who is constantly copying and following the cool popular guy in school. Worse yet, it's the Microstalker. Can Apple get a restraining order against M$? I'm just waiting for the day when the news shows a crazed Steve Ballmer breaking into Steve Jobs' home and squeezing himself into SJ's underwear.
post #49 of 89
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

That doesn't surprise me. MS has always been in Apple's shadow, why would now be any different?



In other breaking news, Apple confirmed 50 new stores to be built in Alaska! Microsoft to follow...



A little too late to try and pass off that "wouldn't copy Apple" thing!

Nah! Just a store bigger than New York's in Wasila. When Apple was asked the reasoning, they said, ``We want to capitalize on the millions of lookers trying to see where Palin made history.''
post #50 of 89
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Originally Posted by canucklehead View Post

They're like the geeky little kid who is constantly copying and following the cool popular guy in school.

And being a slobbering, Apple fanboy makes you the "cool popular guy", and not the geek?

post #51 of 89
I just looked at the photo for the first time (it hadn't loaded when I first read the article, and I jumped straight to the comments). They have all the money in the world, and their premier retail outlet has exposed metal trusses and heating vents?!? Have they learned nothing from copying Apple all these years?

It's just like the comparison between the inside of a typical PC versus the inside of a Mac Pro. I don't think Microsoft could pay attention to detail if their life depended on it. Embarrassing.
post #52 of 89
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Clever ruse or is Apple really scared of the PC Hunter ads?
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...unters-ads.ars

I would guess the call from Apple is about as true as him physically doing "cartwheels" down the hallway.

ie. A completely made up story that sounded good and got the people pumped up for how AWESOME MS is.

The timeline especially seems strange, I don't see why Apple would have contacted them 2 weeks ago since they have been airing the commercials for months and the new MBP's have been available for over a month.
post #53 of 89
These Microsoft stores will mark the end of Apple's retail presence once and for all!

Microsoft will show the world once again why they dominate the tech sector!











post #54 of 89
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

This will only result in the same scene I saw in NorthPark Center Mall in Dallas. Apple store was full with shoppers while Dell store employees on the upper level were playing Solitaire.

Same here.. it was some mall in Portland. The apple store was bursting with people, talk, noise, discussions, music. And the sony store across was literally empty, the employees were so bored they were actually surprised to see me visit! And that's when sony sells so many products.
post #55 of 89
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

What exactly would they sell at a Microsoft store? MS Office, Zune, and xbox? Oh, and a mouse? How could they possible make money doing this?

The Apple stores make money, so would Microsoft stores.

Not everyone are iSheep. In fact, most of the world aren't.
post #56 of 89
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

I didn't think Microsoft could be any more pathetic than they already are...but I was wrong. They copied the Mac OS; they copied the iPod; they're copying the iPhone as we speak; and now they're copying the Apple Stores. By the way, all of their "copies" are pathetic and I expect the stores to be horrendous specters.

They didn't copy Mac OS.

They didn't copy the iPod.

I'd love to see your evidence, documentation and proof that they are "copying" the iPhone as we speak.

And I wasn't aware that any corporation opening a retail store is copying Apple. Gosh, I guess Apple copied Best Buy by opening up a retail store.

And you're nothing more than a biased idiot. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to forget your precious corporation known as Apple has done plenty of "borrowing" itself.

And no, Microsoft stores won't fail. Everyone said the Apple stores would fail, and they didn't. Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple still has little market share in the world. It's not an iWorld, at least not yet.
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I'm so daft and vapid, I couldn't think of anything else to say.
post #58 of 89
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They didn't copy Mac OS.

They didn't copy the iPod.

I'd love to see your evidence, documentation and proof that they are "copying" the iPhone as we speak.

And I wasn't aware that any corporation opening a retail store is copying Apple. Gosh, I guess Apple copied Best Buy by opening up a retail store.

And you're nothing more than a biased idiot. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to forget your precious corporation known as Apple has done plenty of "borrowing" itself.

And no, Microsoft stores won't fail. Everyone said the Apple stores would fail, and they didn't. Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple still has little market share in the world. It's not an iWorld, at least not yet.

Yeah, I think you're missing the point. Microsoft rarely ever innovates: it waits for other companies to come up with good ideas and if they pick up traction in the market, Microsoft creates its own version of that idea. Microsoft rarely produces innovative and interesting products (just look at WinMo if you don't believe me).

A great example is the Aero mode it introduced in Windows Vista. Not only did it physically resemble the Aqua UI element that had been in Macs for years, but the actual coding for it was near identical.

And what exactly propelled MS to create the Zune? Were it not for the iPod's popularity in the market, Microsoft would have seen a reason to create an MP3 player or, for that matter, the ZunePass music store.

Anecdotal evidence and common sense will tell you that MS has made a career out of copying Apple and others.
post #59 of 89
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Originally Posted by Quillz View Post

The Apple stores make money, so would Microsoft stores.

Not everyone are iSheep. In fact, most of the world aren't.

Microsoft stores might make money if they sold anything.

RTA, this is going to be an "experience", not a retail store.

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post #60 of 89
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

They will need to create a buzz in their stores to match the Apple stores and that might be hard.

The last time Microsoft was able to create a buzz was for Windows 3.0.
post #61 of 89
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Originally Posted by wilco View Post

And being a slobbering, Apple fanboy makes you the "cool popular guy", and not the geek?


Like you know anything about me. LOL!

And in case you didn't notice, my analogy was for Microsoft and Apple. Apple products have a cool factor that Microsoft Windows doesn't have. Relatively speaking, Steve B = Geek, Steve J = Pretty darned cool.

Oh and for your information, I've been a PC user for 20 years and got my Mac a year ago, after years of frustration with Windows. If that qualifies me as a fanboy, then so be it. I'd rather be a fanboy than a moron trying to insult someone he knows nothing about.

post #62 of 89
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

I didn't think Microsoft could be any more pathetic than they already are...but I was wrong. They copied the Mac OS; they copied the iPod; they're copying the iPhone as we speak; and now they're copying the Apple Stores. By the way, all of their "copies" are pathetic and I expect the stores to be horrendous specters.

yeah it's a pretty stupid idea, especially when they are asking people to compare them to apple stores, although i don't see a shortage of products microsoft could sell. it really could be a full fledged store, selling not only pc software, hardware, games, but also xbox hardware and games and zunes.

if they have better knowledge and service than big box retailers, they might be quite successful. i think small computer stores (now corporate boutiques rather than the old fashioned locally owned computer shops) are making a big comeback because of the uselessness of customer service at big box stores.

knowing microsoft, they'll call them some ridiculous name like "microsoft customer experience and purchasing center 2009" and somehow screw it all up
post #63 of 89
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Originally Posted by Quillz View Post

And no, Microsoft stores won't fail.

They already have. Do try to keep up.
post #64 of 89
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Originally Posted by macnyc View Post

It looks like Microsoft's version of an Apple store. In other words they took the colors and materials of a clean, simply organized Apple store and made a big complicated mess of it all.

THAT comment was hilarious!!! just luv it!
post #65 of 89
Microsoft is another word for Apple-envy.

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post #66 of 89
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I have no idea what the MS stores will look like, nor what they will sell, but the idea of positioning your store near a competitor is standard practice in many retail areas. If you already have people looking at computer-y things you might as well place your store where they are, kinda thing. That's why clothes stores and furniture stores etc are always grouped together. I would think this is a big gamble for MS, however. They will need to create a buzz in their stores to match the Apple stores and that might be hard. I suspect they will focus on fan and games to draw young people and families in order to emphasize the ease of use and accessibility of the Windows experience.

burger king has been doing that for years, same for private labels at stores , have you ever seen an add for "little debbie cakes" who cares as long as they are positioned next to its rivals

but quality product regardless of the marketing technique sells, i go by many stores and services to get to those i use, that's why a MS store can't sell its wares since just reminds people of how not to do things. at the easton mall in columbus the gateway store was just a little walk from apple and had much better exposure, next to the music store both closed.
customers drive a business and MS isn't tuned into customers wants, if so they would shut them selves down and restart with different leadership--reboot MS because it's frozen
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post #67 of 89
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It looks like Microsoft's version of an Apple store. In other words they took the colors and materials of a clean, simply organized Apple store and made a big complicated mess of it all.

THAT comment was hilarious!!! just luv it!

just like their os, maybe as you enter the store it could welcome you with the MS vista "splash"
maybe call their store "vista"
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post #68 of 89
I hope MS makes its store look just like it does in the picture. The more they can get it to resemble a big-box store like best buy, Circuit City (RIP), or CompUSA (RIP) the better, because people already know what kind of help they can expect entering a store like that.

And I'd love to be there when the first customer asks "How much does this cost?" and the MS employee has to hang his head and say, "Sorry, these products aren't for sale."

I'm going to go into these stores and ask them about viruses and spyware and put their responses up on YouTube. LOL
post #69 of 89
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The last time Microsoft was able to create a buzz was for Windows 3.0.

Excel 3.0 for Windows was a pretty fantastic product. The company I worked for at that time bought 486's with Windows 3.0 just so we could run that version of Excel. It was that groundbreaking (i.e. it ate 1-2-3's lunch). What ever happened to that Microsoft?

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post #70 of 89
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this is how they should operate their stores

sign says "open" but doors are locked
"please reboot to enter"
5 different entrances for each version of sp vista
lights flicker
suddenly all sales staff freeze
they use apple software for checkout
all computers lock up showing a porn portal
you must show your virus protection software to enter
they sell condoms for the laptops
$25 to enter, $35 release fee then $45 to leave
they have a kiosk outside each store for immediate fixes for just purchased items
sales staff have black market linux and chrome os reboot disks
fog fills the store--that's their cloud
sales staff speak only dolphin language
card board people to enhance the numbers
sued for unusual punishment for sales staff
run by gateway
sales staff get to downgrade to XP

just add to the list

Brilliant. Funny. You should start your own blog.
post #71 of 89
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Originally Posted by Jack Mac View Post

Okay, so I have been overwhelmed by Microsoft's past but recent innovations ie: Vista, Zune, I look forward to their strategy to " "innovate for the long term". I guess that means more second rate copies of Apple's first rate products.

What's that loud-mouthed innovator's name running Microsoft? Isn't he the same guy that innovated their way out of the EU monopoly suit Zune-style?

God rest Microsoft!

AT LEAST NO ONE WOULD ACCUSE MICROSOFT OF COPYING APPLE!!!! ( once again )

(Do you think the current head of retail for Target is available? Or at least find someone else who may just have the initials RJ might be good luck?) By the way, that store looks like a security nightmare. But then again, MS customers never steal-it's only the execs that do that. Sleazy at best. Say, they don't call him ball-mur for nuttin'!
post #72 of 89
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Originally Posted by Quillz View Post

They didn't copy Mac OS.

They didn't copy the iPod.

Ssshhh- remember what you're dealing with on here sometimes. Remember, Apple didn't buy and copy Soundjam, they created iTunes. Ask solipism.
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Do folks really pay retail for Windows?


Yes, someone who wants their OS to be safe, stable and secure...

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post #74 of 89
That store looks like Office Depot.

Good for Jobs. He should get out more. Maybe he'll become more approachable if he does so that roadies (and others) don't feel intimidated by his presence. I've never actually seen Jobs described as as "nice guy". He could change that by acting more like a regular joe.
post #75 of 89
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

Excel 3.0 for Windows was a pretty fantastic product. The company I worked for at that time bought 486's with Windows 3.0 just so we could run that version of Excel. It was that groundbreaking (i.e. it ate 1-2-3's lunch). What ever happened to that Microsoft?

I don't know, but, MS hasn't been able to create the same fanfare for a Windows release the way they did with 3.0. Probably because since then, every release has been a disappointment or taken way too long.
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And being a slobbering, Apple fanboy makes you the "cool popular guy", and not the geek?

Why do nearly all of your posts contain personal attacks?
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Ssshhh- remember what you're dealing with on here sometimes. Remember, Apple didn't buy and copy Soundjam, they created iTunes. Ask solipism.

They bought SoundJam. They based iTunes off of SoundJam. It is the foundation that started iTunes. Nothing more.

Your claims that they stole SoundJam, that iTunes is in anyway the same SoundJam from a decade past, that all that is in iTunes today was dreamed up, conceived, and/or included by SoundJam, or that the iTunes trademark was in anyway a part of SoundJam is, per your MO, erroneous and false. What truly is sad is that you learned a little about the origins of iTunes and you actually jumped to a conclusion that iTunes is any a SoundJam creation simply because it formed the foundation of the app so long ago. Do you also go around telling people modern US English is Insular Germanic?
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post #78 of 89
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The Apple stores make money, so would Microsoft stores.

Not everyone are iSheep. In fact, most of the world aren't.

Hahahahaaaa. So you actually admit following the bigger crowd. Maybe you are trying to not come across as a sheep, makes you a sheep. Because not being a sheep is the in-thing. What's wrong with following others? I read so many posts each day where people argue that they do not want to buy an iPod because everybody has one. So that person was willing to be put up with an inferior product, just because else he would be labeled as a sheep. Meeehh. So stating a fact does not make one a sheep. Ignoring a fact does. Sorry I could not resist.
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post #79 of 89
Microsoft must've looked at Apple's iPhone growth curve and made a deposit right in their Microshorts. With all of their competitors on all fronts nipping at their heels, they are in danger of imploding soon. First step toward the cure... Fire Ballmer.

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post #80 of 89
PC users will wander into the Apple Store out of curiosity, see the beautiful unibody Macbooks with their stunning screens, naturally follow the intuitive need to tap the cursor on the dock, then when nothing happens ( because the staff do not enable tap-to-click by default ) they will move on.

Seen it a dozen times !

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