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post #41 of 68
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

You're confusing augmented identification, which is what that Win Mobile app does, with augmented reality, as in what these new location apps do. Please read the description of what the app you used as an example REALLY does. All it's doing is putting info about the person on the screen.
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No I'm not, you're confusing Apple's version of augmented which requires GPS & Compass, as Androids shipping versions do.

Here's wiki definition of Augmented Reality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality

Augmented reality (AR) is a field of computer research which deals with the combination of real-world and computer-generated data (virtual reality), where computer graphics objects are blended into real footage in real time. The term is believed to have been coined in 1990 by Thomas Caudell, an employee of Boeing at the time[1].

[/QUOTE]You don't really have a 3G either, do you?[/QUOTE]

I have both the original iPhone and the 3G. I use the original iPhone in my Bose dock. 5th Gen iPod hardrive died when I dropped it.

The 3G I use ViewTi Golf & the better of the two GolfShot GPS. Neither can make an entire round since 3.0 came out so I back ordered the following the to get me through an entire round. That is why I continually complain about Apple and the iPhone.

Over advertise, under deliver. I am moving to another phone (likely Android or Palm) when my contract is up. Whichever one has the best GPS golf App and can multi task for the entire line of Apps available.
Not to mention the fact that I've grown to loath Jobs.

Order Details:
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1058_JP-IP3G-BLK\tjuice packā„¢ - iPhone 3G & 3G S\t1\t$99.95\t$99.95

\tSub Total: \t$99.95
\tTax: \t$0.00
\tShipping: \t$31.89
\tGrand Total: \t$131.84

Edit. I messed up the quoting but you get the point.
post #42 of 68
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Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post

Does anyone have any idea if the v3.1 software improves reception issues that many have had since upgrading to v3.0? or is the rumor that the problem is changes AT&T has made to their networks?

I have the 16 gig 3G I bought the first weekend after the launch. Right after I upgraded to 3.0 (second day the software came out) I had reception trouble that finally go so bad I couldn't make any calls or get online. I went to the Apple store and they replaced my phone with a new one (not 3GS unfortunately) because testing showed excessive modem resets, or something like that. I just made it under the wire on the one year warrantee too. Phew!

My new phone works great. I have no idea if this had anything to do with 3.0 or whether my phone just picked that time to go bad. Hope this helps.
post #43 of 68
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post

I have the 16 gig 3G I bought the first weekend after the launch. Right after I upgraded to 3.0 (second day the software came out) I had reception trouble that finally go so bad I couldn't make any calls or get online. I went to the Apple store and they replaced my phone with a new one (not 3GS unfortunately) because testing showed excessive modem resets, or something like that. I just made it under the wire on the one year warrantee too. Phew!

My new phone works great. I have no idea if this had anything to do with 3.0 or whether my phone just picked that time to go bad. Hope this helps.

It's not likely 3.0 related. My 3G phone started to get a lot of static (on my end only).
The speaker phone worked fine.

I had to drive 115 miles to an Apple Store because AT&T won't service them (only other option was to send my phone in and be without it for 2 weeks).

My appt was on a Saturday at 11:50AM. I ended up seeing a "Genius" over an hour late.
He didn't blink an eye and said it was a known problem. In my situation he replaced the entire front casing (which apparently includeds the ear piece). It took 10 minutes.

Drove 115 miles home.

The entire situation is a fricking Joke. I bought both my iPhones at my local AT&T store and they said they didn't bother with them and I have to either send it in or go to an Apple Store.

Not only did I have to wait an hour I had to drive 230 miles to get my phone fixed.
I wouldn't call that Free. By the way, no I can't live without my phone for 2 weeks. I use it for business and even if that weren't the case I couldn't live without it for 2 weeks either way.
post #44 of 68
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Originally Posted by Lorre View Post

Also, new desktops in the altest SL-build:

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2009/07/14293/

Oi! People have to pay for those. Why is he putting them on the web.
post #45 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

Not only did I have to wait an hour I had to drive 230 miles to get my phone fixed.

That's a long way. Hopefully when you get your next phone the Palm or Google store is a lot closer.
post #46 of 68
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Originally Posted by ascii View Post

That's a long way. Hopefully when you get your next phone the Palm or Google store is a lot closer.

I have 3 Sprint stores and 5 AT&T stores (that I know of) in my town. I don't think that will be a problem.

Guess my town and the 6 other towns between mine and the closest Apple store is like Lauren. Just not cool enough to have an Apple Store.

Wih any Luck, we'll get a Windows Store. The Best Buy here has 2 Macs (never running and when they are they have no WiFi) and all Windows Machines so it is likely.
post #47 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

Apple is way behind the curve because they control everything. Including what I can put on my phone and view with Safari with their lack of support for Flash.

Here you go, why don't you buy an HTC Hero so you can have "maddening" and "unusable" Flash.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/htc-hero-review/

Scroll towards the bottom to see the flash stuff.
post #48 of 68
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Originally Posted by Trajectory View Post

So I guess this will only work on 3GS iPhones. It's too bad there will no longer be iPhone parity between models. It means that a lot of the new applications that developers will be writing won't work on millions of older iPhones, further diluting their market potential.

Your kidding, right?

Apple should just freeze features now and never advance the platform?

Go ahead, use the word Beleaguered - it will make you feel better
post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Doesn't matter who had it first. What matters is who executes the best. Whose software is going to be used most.

Your wasting your time with "him".

it's Tekstud 2.0 \
post #50 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

No I'm not, you're confusing Apple's version of augmented which requires GPS & Compass, as Androids shipping versions do.

Here's wiki definition of Augmented Reality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality

Augmented reality (AR) is a field of computer research which deals with the combination of real-world and computer-generated data (virtual reality), where computer graphics objects are blended into real footage in real time. The term is believed to have been coined in 1990 by Thomas Caudell, an employee of Boeing at the time[1].

You don't really have a 3G either, do you?[/QUOTE]

I have both the original iPhone and the 3G. I use the original iPhone in my Bose dock. 5th Gen iPod hardrive died when I dropped it.

The 3G I use ViewTi Golf & the better of the two GolfShot GPS. Neither can make an entire round since 3.0 came out so I back ordered the following the to get me through an entire round. That is why I continually complain about Apple and the iPhone.

Over advertise, under deliver. I am moving to another phone (likely Android or Palm) when my contract is up. Whichever one has the best GPS golf App and can multi task for the entire line of Apps available.
Not to mention the fact that I've grown to loath Jobs.

Order Details:
Code\tItem\tQty\tPrice\tTotal
1058_JP-IP3G-BLK\tjuice pack - iPhone 3G & 3G S\t1\t$99.95\t$99.95

\tSub Total: \t$99.95
\tTax: \t$0.00
\tShipping: \t$31.89
\tGrand Total: \t$131.84

Edit. I messed up the quoting but you get the point.[/QUOTE]

That definition mixes what was with what is, and with what's coming. Most of it is not applicable to what we are discussing here, which is cell phones.

The apps that are generating the most excitement is not what the article was hardly even discussing, which is location based augmented reality, which needs, in all phones, both a GPS and a compass.

You are trying to wiggle out of that. No one cares about F-35 helmets, or games. This isn't relevant to the discussion of this technology being applied to cell phones. Try to keep it on track.

The modern expression of this technology is that of an app which allows you to move, turn, walk and otherwise find places of interest or importance to you in a locatable 3D space within the real environment.
post #51 of 68
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Originally Posted by DocNo42 View Post

Your wasting your time with "him".

it's Tekstud 2.0 \

Don't get on Tekstud. He actually contributes.
post #52 of 68
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

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That definition mixes what was with what is, and with what's coming. Most of it is not applicable to what we are discussing here, which is cell phones.

The apps that are generating the most excitement is not what the article was hardly even discussing, which is location based augmented reality, which needs, in all phones, both a GPS and at compass.

You are trying to wiggle out of that. No one cares about F-35 helmets, or games. This isn't relevant to the discussion of this technology being applied to cell phones. Try to keep it on track.

The modern expression of this technology is that of an app which allows you to move, turn, walk and otherwise find places of interest or importance to you in a locatable 3D space within the real environment.

You better inform Wiki that a Moderator at an Apple Rumor site finds their definition outdated.

Better Yet. send them a link to the currently working Android videos all over the web that are already doing what Apple is attempting to do.

It's a wonder that they can't find the battery power for True Multi-Tasking, yet they can now do video and a copied job of Augmented Reality.

Copy and Paste must take a hell of a lot of battery usage to make it work, no wonder why it took them 2 years.

How about putting out an update before 3.1 that addresses the current bugs before introducing more.

That would be the responsible thing to do.
post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by MacTel View Post

Does any other handset have the components like the 3Gs to do the same?

All Android phones on the market have a hardware compass + gps, as well as the high end Nokia S60 phones released in the last year. Both Android and S60 phones have APIs for accessing the compass, GPS and live video feeds that are required for AR.

It's cool that iPhone is getting these features too, because of its simplicity in developing software- making AR apps able to be made by more developers and reach a much wider audience.
post #54 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

I had to drive 115 miles to an Apple Store because AT&T won't service them (only other option was to send my phone in and be without it for 2 weeks).

Doesn't Apple offer "Advanced Exchange" over there? If you don't want to wait or go to an Apple Store, you pay $30 and they'll send out a new phone and a postage paid label to send the broken one back.
post #55 of 68
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Originally Posted by retroneo View Post

Doesn't Apple offer "Advanced Exchange" over there? If you don't want to wait or go to an Apple Store, you pay $30 and they'll send out a new phone and a postage paid label to send the broken one back.

AT&T said they don't even touch iPhones.

I called Apple and told them my dilema and they said send it in or go to the Apple Store.

I didn't care about the cost I have to have a phone 24/7. Every hour I dont have a phone costs me money. I called Apple and they said you have store X but I can't make an appointment for you. You have to Log into Apple, Go to the store and then make an appointment.

AT&T & Apple failed me.

EPIC FAIL on both APPLE AND AT&T.

Why can't anyone but FRICKING Apple repair their products? Hell 7-11 is going to be selling the iPhone by next year. You'd think that the 85% of America that don't live near an Apple store would have more options.

It cost me more than my battery pack I just purchased to get my phone fixed so I could finish a round of Golf without a DEAD BATTERY.

DEAD BATTERY for 4.5 hours GPS use is weak at best. At this point Apple will never have multi-tasking, their fricking phone would blow up or burn children.

Edit. For the person that said buy an HTC becuase their Flash sucked so bad. Look at the Video again. It Multi-Tasked at every other function flawlessly. Apple can't.
post #56 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

You better inform Wiki that a Moderator at an Apple Rumor site finds their definition outdated.

Better Yet. send them a link to the currently working Android videos all over the web that are already doing what Apple is attempting to do.

It's a wonder that they can't find the battery power for True Multi-Tasking, yet they can now do video and a copied job of Augmented Reality.

Copy and Paste must take a hell of a lot of battery usage to make it work, no wonder why it took them 2 years.

How about putting out an update before 3.1 that addresses the current bugs before introducing more.

That would be the responsible thing to do.

So, are you 12, brain damaged, or both?

I ask because your every post is a near unbelievable hash of random observations, petty gripes, and apparently deeply held resentments. It's like what you'd get if you cut up a real Apple bashing post and put it back together blindfolded.

I have no objection to good old fashioned trolling, but you have to try and make sense. You seem less like a "troll" and more like "insane."
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post #57 of 68
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So, are you 12, brain damaged, or both?

I ask because your every post is a near unbelievable hash of random observations, petty gripes, and apparently deeply held resentments. It's like what you'd get if you cut up a real Apple bashing post and put it back together blindfolded.

I have no objection to good old fashioned trolling, but you have to try and make sense. You seem less like a "troll" and more like "insane."

Your analogy of me puts me so at peace with myself. This is the forum that calls the iPhone the Jesus Phone.

I'd say you seem less like an Apple FanBoy and more like a White supremist.

You are a minority in your beliefs. You worship a man that is not God an Hate everything that is NON APPLE.

The only saving grace (currently) is you're not stringing up Microsoft users. You're using KKK tactics and cowardly forums to show your hate.
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post #59 of 68
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DEAD BATTERY for 4.5 hours GPS use is weak at best. At this point Apple will never have multi-tasking, their fricking phone would blow up or burn children.


hmm, tom tom lists their battery life for dedicated GPS at "up to 5 hours"....
garmin will give you up to 7 hours. Make a phone call with that bad boy and get some push notifications and check your email while you're at it...

good luck with that.
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post #60 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

Your analogy of me puts me so at peace with myself. This is the forum that calls the iPhone the Jesus Phone.

I'd say you seem less like an Apple FanBoy and more like a White supremist.

You are a minority in your beliefs. You worship a man that is not God an Hate everything that is NON APPLE.

The only saving grace (currently) is you're not stringing up Microsoft users. You're using KKK tactics and cowardly forums to show your hate.

Christ, you're actually straight up nuts. Interesting. We don't get many of those.
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post #61 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

You better inform Wiki that a Moderator at an Apple Rumor site finds their definition outdated.

Better Yet. send them a link to the currently working Android videos all over the web that are already doing what Apple is attempting to do.

It's a wonder that they can't find the battery power for True Multi-Tasking, yet they can now do video and a copied job of Augmented Reality.

Copy and Paste must take a hell of a lot of battery usage to make it work, no wonder why it took them 2 years.

How about putting out an update before 3.1 that addresses the current bugs before introducing more.

That would be the responsible thing to do.

And you think that the Wiki's definitions are all so wonderful, or correct? Do you even know who wrote that? No, you don't.

And now you're making up more junk. You don't know how the phone works, and despite you're insisting that you have one, I don't believe it.
post #62 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

DEAD BATTERY for 4.5 hours GPS use is weak at best. At this point Apple will never have multi-tasking, their fricking phone would blow up or burn children.

So you want Flash on this device as well, therefore lowering battery life significantly and then what? I think you have no concept of running a desktop class OS on a slim mobile device whilst delivering an optimal user experience.

I think the iPhone is not for you... If you are so upset at this device why not get something else?
post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

You're using KKK tactics and cowardly forums to show your hate.

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. However, notice the person you are referring to is not on the Palm forum trolling, unlike you.

The ability to overlay CG onto the camera video would add many new capabilities to the system that developers could take advantage of in so many new and exciting ways. I can't wait to see what is done with this on the platform of the iPhone.

Oh, and on your gripe about having to repair your phone. I had to send my Motorola to Texas for two weeks, no help here. At least I can walk into an Apple store anywhere across the country and get my phone fixed.
post #64 of 68
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Originally Posted by beg View Post

Here you go, why don't you buy an HTC Hero so you can have "maddening" and "unusable" Flash.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/htc-hero-review/

Scroll towards the bottom to see the flash stuff.

LOL I hate that phone with that stupid chin. Looks dumb.
post #65 of 68
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

And you think that the Wiki's definitions are all so wonderful, or correct? Do you even know who wrote that? No, you don't.

And now you're making up more junk. You don't know how the phone works, and despite you're insisting that you have one, I don't believe it.

Why not you just ban him? It's irritating to see and have a troll on the forums. It spoils the user experience, dear Melgross.
post #66 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

Your analogy of me puts me so at peace with myself. This is the forum that calls the iPhone the Jesus Phone.

I'd say you seem less like an Apple FanBoy and more like a White supremist.

You are a minority in your beliefs. You worship a man that is not God an Hate everything that is NON APPLE.

The only saving grace (currently) is you're not stringing up Microsoft users. You're using KKK tactics and cowardly forums to show your hate.

Now look right here. "White supremist." Are you trying to be a damn racist to others? God, Ban Hampster time should be coming real soon for you then... sad to see such trolls here on AI forums.. Tsk Tsk..
post #67 of 68
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Originally Posted by addabox View Post

So, are you 12, brain damaged, or both?

I ask because your every post is a near unbelievable hash of random observations, petty gripes, and apparently deeply held resentments. It's like what you'd get if you cut up a real Apple bashing post and put it back together blindfolded.

I have no objection to good old fashioned trolling, but you have to try and make sense. You seem less like a "troll" and more like "insane."

Don't you think it's sad to have people like this here who spoil our experience here at AI? If you ( the other guy )are unhappy, don't post it here. You should go count to 100 just as Forum Rules have stated and not rant and post about your displeasure. It makes everybody unhappy.
post #68 of 68
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Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post

You better inform Wiki that a Moderator at an Apple Rumor site finds their definition outdated.

Better Yet. send them a link to the currently working Android videos all over the web that are already doing what Apple is attempting to do.

It's a wonder that they can't find the battery power for True Multi-Tasking, yet they can now do video and a copied job of Augmented Reality.

Copy and Paste must take a hell of a lot of battery usage to make it work, no wonder why it took them 2 years.

How about putting out an update before 3.1 that addresses the current bugs before introducing more.

That would be the responsible thing to do.

Don't argue with a moderator. He has every right to ban you.
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