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post #41 of 143
Repeating what others have said: Google Voice is not VOIP. However - it does provide a front-end for dialing through its web interface.

There are two ways GV is a threat to AT&T right now:

Directly: I could use it for ALL my SMS needs from the iPhone. Not as convenient as SMS on the iPhone plans but it works. I can also choose to use GV some of the time, like when my plan is low on SMS messages.

Indirectly: I can use my landline, conveniently, for free outbound long distance, resulting in less use of my iPhone voice minutes. Otherwise I'd be using iPhone minutes to take advantage of free long distance.

The comments about voice quality are moot. This is all about AT&T stifling innovation - which is what they do best. Where have the carriers been with all the features GV offers? Shouldn't their expertise have made it easy to offer these things, even if for a fee?
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post #42 of 143
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the lag on even a 3G network is high enough that holding a regular conversation isn't really feasible, for example

Bollocks. I've spent two hours this morning having conversations from South Africa to the UK, on Skype, over 3G, via my iPhone. The parties receiving the call didn't even notice that I was 6000 miles away.

3G lag == operator kool aid.
post #43 of 143
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple is systematically pulling iPhone apps that use Google Voice to simplify and reduce the costs of making phone calls, though it's suspected Apple isn't the one making the actual judgment call.

This is yet another reason that if Verizon ever gets the iphone I will be one of those goofballs on tv waiting in 5 hours lines to sign up. I give ATT too much money to be shortchanged. If ATT reads this....Ich verlasse dich!!!
post #44 of 143
Yeah, Chipman called me about my app too. He was so polite but still a superjerk. It's probably not him. He's just a meat puppet being told what to do.
post #45 of 143
Joikuspot + Nokia + iPhone = AT&T can suck a fat one.
post #46 of 143
It's really unacceptable to reject such an app. Sometimes Apple does have their boo-boos too.
post #47 of 143
I had a neighbor friend who, when I was going to be flying out of the country, would ask if I would get him a carton of cigarettes, duty-free. No problem.

After a couple of times, he then asked if would I mind getting him a bottle of rum as well.

When he learned that I would be flying out weekly to Jamaica for the next 6 months, sure enough, he expected that I continue to fill his requests. When I hesitated, he simply said, "Hey, you are going there anyway, you don't smoke and you don't drink rum. And it doesn't cost you anything as you are writing off the travel expenses for business."

Well, I did it for a few trips, Then I discovered that he was selling the rum to his brothers, for a profit.

On my following return, he came over for his booty and I let him know that I didn't mind doing it for personal use as a friend…he understood the 'rum' part, "But what about my cigarettes?

To which I responded, "Sorry. But as a friend, I couldn't live with the thought of you getting cancer."

Needless to say, we are no longer 'friends'. Or neighbors.

By the way, when we moved out of the community, I learned that he had gotten his next door neighbor to let him share their internet connection via WiFi. For free. "After all, it didn't cost them anymore money to let him use it too."

P.S. Based on some of the comments here, does anybody here live on Clarkson Drive?
post #48 of 143
From one of your biggest supporters: SCREW YOU APPLE! This really irks me. So many good apps are being pulled/denied for BS reasons: QIK, sling player and now Google Voice. I never thought I'd say this, but your competitors are looking better all the time. Either switch or jailbreak, those are my options.

Zhe Wiz
post #49 of 143
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Originally Posted by Zhe Wiz View Post

From one of your biggest supporters: SCREW YOU APPLE! This really irks me. So many good apps are being pulled/denied for BS reasons: QIK, sling player and now Google Voice. I never thought I'd say this, but your competitors are looking better all the time. Either switch or jailbreak, those are my options.

Zhe Wiz

+1 This is what irks me about this policy of the App Store.
post #50 of 143
I am an other one who will take a good look at the Android phones once my iPhone contract expires.
post #51 of 143
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Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post

Joikuspot + Nokia + iPhone = AT&T can suck a fat one.

LOL! I laughed upon seeing that.
post #52 of 143
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Neither Apple nor AT&T has clarified their stances on the issue

Neither Apple nor AT&T have a stance on this issue. They will simply do as they please and invent whatever flimsy justification their PR departments feel like using that day. I think pulling Google Voice apps is incredibly stupid on Apple's part.
post #53 of 143
Even as of a few weeks ago, I was craving an iPhone on Verizon. But I wouldn't be surprised if Verizon pulled these stunts too and Apple complied. The iPhone has so much room for innovation, but in terms of just being a phone (if Apple keeps getting rid of apps that encourage competition with cell carriers), it seems like Android is looking better all the time, if Google fully incorporates all of their services into the phone OS.
post #54 of 143
I am baffled how Skype can be allowed but not GoogleVoice!
Skype also allows you to make and recieve phone calls as well as send text messages.
Skype is limited to WiFi and this is a reasonable restriction.
GV should be allowed but restricted to WiFi use as well.

I wonder if any of this is to give the appearance to the Attourney General that Apple and Google aren't in bed with each other. Should there be any antritrust action they can point to this and say "look we didn't give them any preferential treatment".

Also on a side note, If Apple can sell an iPod Touch for $229, An iPhone 3G S shouldn't cost $600-700. I'm guessing Apple is making 30% profit on an iPod Touch and around a 50% profit on the iPhone.
post #55 of 143
You still charged for inbound SMS. This is no different from AOL IM. This is Apple at work and not ATT&T. Google voice is already out for Blackberry, which ATT has many models, and is coming for WM, with ATT has dozens of models.
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Repeating what others have said: Google Voice is not VOIP. However - it does provide a front-end for dialing through its web interface.

There are two ways GV is a threat to AT&T right now:

Directly: I could use it for ALL my SMS needs from the iPhone. Not as convenient as SMS on the iPhone plans but it works. I can also choose to use GV some of the time, like when my plan is low on SMS messages.

Indirectly: I can use my landline, conveniently, for free outbound long distance, resulting in less use of my iPhone voice minutes. Otherwise I'd be using iPhone minutes to take advantage of free long distance.

The comments about voice quality are moot. This is all about AT&T stifling innovation - which is what they do best. Where have the carriers been with all the features GV offers? Shouldn't their expertise have made it easy to offer these things, even if for a fee?
post #56 of 143
This is ridiculous. I have PURCHASED three apps that have been removed, almost immediately after my purchase.

Aside from the fact that this is fraud, it's totally unfair and really bad business to limit a developer or a buyer, post fact. I am not a stupid person, nor do I think that any buyer is going to be confused by any similarity an app might (or might NOT) have with the iPhone.

Application development is a time consuming and expensive process. This is a very stupid move on Apple's part. Expecting application developers to spend the time and money to complete an application on the chance that it will make to the "App" store is unfair and wrong headed. An applications success or failure should be a market decision.

Has Apple become an enemy?

I've been in several major law suites (which I've won) but anyone who's been through that process will tell you that there are no winners, it doesnt matter what you walk away with because the time and energy it takes to win, is time taken away from the rest of your life.

However, this a case worth winning. A class action case worth bringing.

I waited more than a year for Google Voice. Now that I have it, I can tell you it's fantastic. Its helpful and works for me. HOWEVER, it needs a dedicated iPhone App.

Both of the pulled apps are good, but need ongoing development. Given they have been pulled after my purchase, I AM PISSED. There wont be anymore development. Why limit any of this, why tie third party development to Apples self-image?

This is exactly the type of behavior I've "Joked" with Apple about, only now it's become a fact and not a joke. This kind of thinking(lack of thinking, really) kills innovation. Exactly the type of behavior that killed what little innovative spirit Microsoft once had.

I think it's time to put together a class action, give WGM in NY a call but more important get the best PR firm in the world to start making noise.

Apple needs to get real and stop acting like Microsoft. PMG can't you get anybody to listen there? WAKE UP.

If this is the result of AT&T it is time for congress to move on the "exclusivity" issue. In fact, it's time to consider whether or NOT Apple should have the exclusive rights to limit what developers want to produce and the public wants to purchase. Freedom is NOT just another word for nothing left to loose
post #57 of 143
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This is yet another reason that if Verizon ever gets the iphone I will be one of those goofballs on tv waiting in 5 hours lines to sign up. I give ATT too much money to be shortchanged. If ATT reads this....Ich verlasse dich!!!

You are insane! Verizon is 10X more resrtrictive than AT&T. They cripple Bluetooth on their phones and tell the handset manufacturers what Apps can be on the phone. Apple tried to work with Verizon first before they went with ATT. Verizon wanted to control the iPhone and limit a lot of it's capabilities. AT&T is far from perfect bit they aren't nearly as draconian in protecting their antiquated business model.
post #58 of 143
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

You are insane! Verizon is 10X more resrtrictive than AT&T. They cripple Bluetooth on their phones and tell the handset manufacturers what Apps can be on the phone. Apple tried to work with Verizon first before they went with ATT. Verizon wanted to control the iPhone and limit a lot of it's capabilities. AT&T is far from perfect bit they aren't nearly as draconian in protecting their antiquated business model.

Basically, all cell carriers suck.
post #59 of 143
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Originally Posted by eksodos View Post

This is a great decision by Apple.

Why should Google come along and deprive Apple and their valued partners of revenues? Go play with your Android friends Google. You are not wanted here.

Even more important ensuring voice calls are of the highest possible quality. Guess who is going to get blamed when call quality is terrible, lines drop, and latency makes conversation next to impossible? The iPhone of course!!!

Apple did the right thing here.

Amazing. You've managed to troll these guys with a single statement better than anyone I've ever seen. First rule of trolling: Believe it. You have to sell it, and you did just that.

I mean, I don't pick up on any sarcasm, and what you said pretty much wraps up the wrost of what people think of Apple fanboys; Just let Apple do what they want and praise them for it, even when what they are doing only benefits themselves and not the consumer.

I applaud you sir. You are king of the trolls.
post #60 of 143
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Originally Posted by fraklinc View Post

Dude STFU, you don't have a clue of what your talking about, google voice is not a VOIP service.
Google Voice is just a virtual phone # that forward calls to your phone. Pulling this App makes no sense at all cause people can still log to google voice via the web browser and use the service. If AT&T had a free incoming call plan i will understand that they could be losing out on something but since they don't, i don't see a how this app could heard them.

Google Voice isn't a VOIP service? Really? Really?
How is it they can afford to allow unlimited calls to anywhere in the US and Canada?
How does my voice get from point A to point B? Voice Over Magic?
post #61 of 143
Yes because of all of those VoIP apps that Verizon has on it's phones.


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This is yet another reason that if Verizon ever gets the iphone I will be one of those goofballs on tv waiting in 5 hours lines to sign up. I give ATT too much money to be shortchanged. If ATT reads this....Ich verlasse dich!!!
post #62 of 143
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

I had a neighbor friend who, when I was going to be flying out of the country, would ask if I would get him a carton of cigarettes, duty-free. No problem.

After a couple of times, he then asked if would I mind getting him a bottle of rum as well.

When he learned that I would be flying out weekly to Jamaica for the next 6 months, sure enough, he expected that I continue to fill his requests. When I hesitated, he simply said, "Hey, you are going there anyway, you don't smoke and you don't drink rum. And it doesn't cost you anything as you are writing off the travel expenses for business."

Well, I did it for a few trips, Then I discovered that he was selling the rum to his brothers, for a profit.

On my following return, he came over for his booty and I let him know that I didn't mind doing it for personal use as a friendhe understood the 'rum' part, "But what about my cigarettes?

To which I responded, "Sorry. But as a friend, I couldn't live with the thought of you getting cancer."

Needless to say, we are no longer 'friends'. Or neighbors.

By the way, when we moved out of the community, I learned that he had gotten his next door neighbor to let him share their internet connection via WiFi. For free. "After all, it didn't cost them anymore money to let him use it too."

P.S. Based on some of the comments here, does anybody here live on Clarkson Drive?

What in the hell does this have to do with anything?

You're saying GV was pulled because Apple got tired of Google being an asshole? :P
post #63 of 143
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

What in the hell does this have to do with anything?

You're saying GV was pulled because Apple got tired of Google being an asshole? :P

I expect that from one who wants everything for nothing. As you said before, I gather a lot of things are out of your price range.

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ah the price for osx. It's no wonder they are posting profits seeing as how they are making a killing off their inflated pricing.

But that's my opinion. I'll take a laptop with equal or better hardware specs running vista or xp for much less any day.
post #64 of 143
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Originally Posted by wlow3 View Post

AT&T charged me for using AIM for iPhone ($.20 per text) and I was messaging/texting with an iPod touch, which also had AIM for iPhone installed (and didn't obviously get charged). They said it's an SMS app so they can do that even though AOL's own FAQ says it should be charged as data not an SMS transmission. Unfortunately it is impossible to find any support number or email for AOL (it's peer-to-peer community boards or nothing apparently) so I can't get AOL's position.

AT&T is rapacious so this article does not surprise me.

Chargeback.

Next problem...
post #65 of 143
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

I had a neighbor friend who, when I was going to be flying out of the country, would ask if I would get him a carton of cigarettes, duty-free. No problem.

After a couple of times, he then asked if would I mind getting him a bottle of rum as well.

When he learned that I would be flying out weekly to Jamaica for the next 6 months, sure enough, he expected that I continue to fill his requests. When I hesitated, he simply said, "Hey, you are going there anyway, you don't smoke and you don't drink rum. And it doesn't cost you anything as you are writing off the travel expenses for business."

Well, I did it for a few trips, Then I discovered that he was selling the rum to his brothers, for a profit.

On my following return, he came over for his booty and I let him know that I didn't mind doing it for personal use as a friendhe understood the 'rum' part, "But what about my cigarettes?

To which I responded, "Sorry. But as a friend, I couldn't live with the thought of you getting cancer."

Needless to say, we are no longer 'friends'. Or neighbors.

By the way, when we moved out of the community, I learned that he had gotten his next door neighbor to let him share their internet connection via WiFi. For free. "After all, it didn't cost them anymore money to let him use it too."

P.S. Based on some of the comments here, does anybody here live on Clarkson Drive?

Google isn't just ripping off Apple, in my opinion some of the apps they provide are good reasons to buy an iPhone, spending money on Apple's product in the first place. You're saying Google is allowing people to have "something for nothing" by comparing this situation to some guy that was taking advantage of you? If cell carriers didn't make a killing off of SMS messages which cost almost nothing (aka they charged reasonable prices), not enough people would care about the alternative GV messages introduces. And from my understanding of GV, you're using ATT minutes anyway, for the iPhone at least. You're just using what you paid for in a different way.
post #66 of 143
GV is not a VOIP app.
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Yes because of all of those VoIP apps that Verizon has on it's phones.
post #67 of 143
Well, I don't like what Apple and ATT have been doing. They are doing everything they can to keep user costs high. They are doing everything they can to stifle any opportunity for prices to come down. Of course, that's what businesses do, but I have to be honest; because what they are doing is very anti-competitive, and because all they care about is taking as much money out of my pocket as possible, I am starting to dislike Apple Computer and ATT.

They are doing many of the same things everyone has detested about Microsoft.

To me, Apple and ATT are squeezing everything out of the consumer with no care for the consumer's pocket books. Of course they don't care, I know. But, as someone who is cost conscious and looking to control my spending, at some point in the future, when a viable alternative is offered by another company, I will jump...with sour grapes knowing Apple and ATT care nothing about me, and that they squeezed me for as much as they could.
post #68 of 143
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Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post

Joikuspot + Nokia + iPhone = AT&T can suck a fat one.

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Originally Posted by SGSStateStudent View Post

LOL! I laughed upon seeing that.

Could you please elucidate for the rest of us?

Joikuspot? Nokia+iPhone?
post #69 of 143
I don't even know where to begin with this. Let me start here:
"the lag on even a 3G network is high enough that holding a regular conversation isn't really feasible, for example."

No, that's totally wrong. I jailbroke my iPhone and not only does Skype work well on 3G, but it works well on Edge. I was on my boat doing an Edge connection doing a conference call via Skype and had a great connection for about 2 hours. I know people in the city who swear they can't even get a regular call through AT&T without being dropped within 15 minutes.

As far as GV, which is different of course, for AT&T it's all upside. If I want to bypass AT&T for SMS, I'd use any number of free alternative web-based SMS services. AT&T, you have to compete here on offering better service...which when it comes to SMS, you actually do.

For other aspects of GV, the irony here is that it's going to be all about redirecting other lines to my iPhone.

All of this of course just makes jailbreaking far more attractive, and applies pressure for Apple to dump the exclusive relationship with AT&T.
post #70 of 143
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

Google Voice isn't a VOIP service? Really? Really?
How is it they can afford to allow unlimited calls to anywhere in the US and Canada?
How does my voice get from point A to point B? Voice Over Magic?

It is only 'magic' for the simple minded.

RTFM or the FAQ.

You call your GV number and push 2 to dial an out. Enter the phone number and GV connects you to your party. So, you are making a local call. You pay for that local call, unless you plan allows otherwise. (My5, unlimited local, etc) VoIP is involved, but from the GV server to your party. Your call is a regular call to the GV service.

In essence, this is no different than using a calling card service.

Does GV offer VoIP services? Sure. SMS,

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post #71 of 143
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but greatly reduces the cost of outbound long-distance and messaging, all of which potentially deprive AT&T and eventually other carriers of possible extra revenue.

People are always complaining about being nickeled and dimed by AT&T, or any carrier for that matter, but that is just the way the phone business is. Like any other contractor, for example my landscaper, who billed me around $200 an hour for his crew to work on my yard. Sure he was only paying them around $45 an hour total, but they have trucks and equipment and insurance etc etc.

Same thing for AT&T. People seem to think that it doesn't cost them anywhere near .20 cents an SMS, it should be free, but AT&T needs to make money for expenses too.

I just wish we could simplify the way we get billed. Sure there may be some technical distinction between voice and data but that line is getting rather blurry. Pretty soon it is just going to be data for everything. Then AT&T can bill like Akamai, by the bandwidth used.

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post #72 of 143
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

I had a neighbor friend who, when I was going to be flying out of the country, would ask if I would get him a carton of cigarettes, duty-free. No problem.

After a couple of times, he then asked if would I mind getting him a bottle of rum as well.

When he learned that I would be flying out weekly to Jamaica for the next 6 months, sure enough, he expected that I continue to fill his requests. When I hesitated, he simply said, "Hey, you are going there anyway, you don't smoke and you don't drink rum. And it doesn't cost you anything as you are writing off the travel expenses for business."

Well, I did it for a few trips, Then I discovered that he was selling the rum to his brothers, for a profit.

On my following return, he came over for his booty and I let him know that I didn't mind doing it for personal use as a friendhe understood the 'rum' part, "But what about my cigarettes?

To which I responded, "Sorry. But as a friend, I couldn't live with the thought of you getting cancer."

Needless to say, we are no longer 'friends'. Or neighbors.

By the way, when we moved out of the community, I learned that he had gotten his next door neighbor to let him share their internet connection via WiFi. For free. "After all, it didn't cost them anymore money to let him use it too."

P.S. Based on some of the comments here, does anybody here live on Clarkson Drive?

I'll be the second to ask, WTF does this amusing story have to do with the thread?

So, when Apple next bows to AT&T and blocks you from using calling cards on the iPhone, you will be OK with this (or Rogers in your case). How about if they keep you from using services like YAK, where you call a local number which routes your actual call through? These are legal and important services companies offer. it is called competition.

You must have been very disappointed when Bell couldn't keep out long distance (and local) competition in Canada. I imagine the same argument would hold true: "People that don't want to pay Bell are simply broke-ass cheap skates and should just shut up and pay Bell. they are simply trying to take advantage. It cost Bell money to create their phone network, people should only pay them"

An ignorant, arrogant, elitist argument to say the least.

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post #73 of 143
Does GV not use the internet to connect voice communications?

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GV is not a VOIP app.
post #74 of 143
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post

I am baffled how Skype can be allowed but not GoogleVoice!

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post #75 of 143
I love Google Voice. Was a Grand Central user and continue to use GV extensively. It is my voicemail of choice for both my cell and home number. The service is great and even better when used with an iPhone (or iPod Touch) and an app such as Sean Kovac's GV Mobile . This might be a preemptive thing as Google is giving GV a lot more love and attention as of late.

Lord Acton said Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely." This quote comes to mind when I think of the App Store and Apple's behavior with regard to apps in a number of cases now. I have been trying to avoid jailbreaking as I assume many others have also but if this type of thing continues I won't think twice.
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post #76 of 143
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Apple owns the playground and they reserve the right not to serve some things, in the same way a GM dealer can refuse to service a ford

Bad analogy. More like comcast telling you what webites you can visit or AT&T barring you from using a competing long distance provider. The second is exactly what they are doing here. Just that they are doing it by proxy through Apple.

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post #77 of 143
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Originally Posted by Drow_Swordsman View Post

Google isn't just ripping off Apple, in my opinion some of the apps they provide are good reasons to buy an iPhone, spending money on Apple's product in the first place. You're saying Google is allowing people to have "something for nothing" by comparing this situation to some guy that was taking advantage of you? If cell carriers didn't make a killing off of SMS messages which cost almost nothing (aka they charged reasonable prices), not enough people would care about the alternative GV messages introduces. And from my understanding of GV, you're using ATT minutes anyway, for the iPhone at least. You're just using what you paid for in a different way.

It must be nice to be born in an era when somebody else has paid the Piper to do and benefit from most of the things we do today.

And then to demand that everything connected to it be free or let somebody develop a vehicle so that freeloaders can sponge on the creativity and work of others.

As for, "SMS messages which cost almost nothing," perhaps you, as a IT genius, could illustrate how you could build the infrastructure to your for-free-designed system.

http://communication.howstuffworks.c...s_tutorial.htm

And just to make it quite clear, I would like to pay less for a lot of things. However, there are countries that thrive on copying the works of others. I would rather live here and realize that there is a cost for such freedom.

The idea that everybody is ripping everybody off and all the time, including Apple, suggests that perhaps relocation is better choice for a lot of the futures here.

As for GOOGLE, it must be nice to make money basically off the backs of others, and in particular, Apple.
post #78 of 143
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Wow. Here's a gold star for you Extreme Apple Fanboy. Enjoy.

This is simply terrible news for consumers and iPhone fans and iPhone developers. Simply god awful terrible news.

w00master

Not at all fanboism. I use VoIP as my regular phone, and on poor internet connections, it is nearly unusable and highly frustrating for me and the person I'm trying to talk with. VoIP does not work well except with dedicated, low-hop configurations.
post #79 of 143
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Does GV not use the internet to connect voice communications?

From their servers to the party you are calling, yes. From your phone, no.

Even with the GV apps banned, you can still use the GV service. It means you have to manually dial the GV local number and then manually enter the number you want then to call for you. The GV apps simply streamlined this process. You could select a contact from with the app, it would call the GV local number and then connect to your contact.

This is just being a bully to remove LD competition...or at least make it far less convenient.

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As for GOOGLE, it must be nice to make money basically off the backs of others, and in particular, Apple.

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