Originally Posted by emig647
There are many things you must keep in mind of why PC laptops are so cheap and apple will NEVER be able to produce them.
Sorry but you are wrong. Apple very much could produce cheaper laptops. they are perfectly able to do so.
but they choose not to.
Originally Posted by camroidv27
I want a desktop hard drive, a desktop processor that I can change out and over clock, I want standard drives and be able to install a blue-ray drive if i wish. I want to be able to upgrade to USB3 when it comes out, or install a new networking card. I want to be able to use a standard graphics card that isn't specially built for Mac, and more so I want SLI or CrossFire. I want this in a smallish desktop form factor. Apple doesn't sell this. I want all this AND OSX, but that's not a possiblitiy through Apple... so then what do I do?
you are one of what I call the SuperGeeks. the highly techno users of all things (computers, smartphones, televisions etc) that make up about 5 (maybe 10)% of Apple's user base. one of those that says that anything less than 1080 is NOT HD and it's a sin to call it that, who will always find something to complain about that Apple isn't doing that you think they should, because (in your wise opinion) they are stupid not to. and so on
sorry to say it but they don't focus on you. they focus on the other 90-95% who only think of their tv when they buy blu-rays, who can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080, who only care that they can build a little family website, not that the coding is bloated, who want to edit that home movie of the kids, not make a blockbuster, etc.
Originally Posted by camroidv27
I understand that Apple cannot make computers for all people. I don't think they should make computers for everyone. No computer maker really does. I think a good idea would be to have two divisions. Apple computers just how they are now. Then the "build it yourself" model.
how is this different than the whole cloning fiasco. aside from the fact that Apple had to support those authorized clones.
for the record, Apple doesn't go around and knock on every house and check that you didn't build a hackintosh for your own use. just like they don't randomly walk up and demand folks let them inspect that they didn't unlock/jailbreak their iphones. they don't make you sign 20 pages of legelese that you aren't buying that retail copy to "build it yourself". if you want to build one yourself and you think you can do it and make OS X work on it, great. just keep it to yourself. don't go putting the instructions online, making that DCMA violating bootloader available for folks to download etc. yes by letter you are still breaking the law, but you aren't going to get caught if you don't brag about it.
Originally Posted by Gmac
Yeah right. And when these people that are building their own macs run into problems and apple refuses to support them because "hey we told you this Mac OS really only runs on our HW" they'll be perfectly happy with that response? Apple would get sued left right and center.
actually they wouldn't. because the folks building those machines know they tampered with the software etc and won't get support.
now who is the problem is these illegal iphone resellers. I'll put down good money that they have unlocked the phones and aren't telling the buyers that there's no warranty or that any updates to the software will kill the phone. And without that info, they will blame Apple when the phone fails.
Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss
No no, you miss the point. Apple must be made to compete against itself
, or there's no justice in the world.
No, you are the one that has missed the point. there is no such thing as a Macintosh Computer Market. which is what Psystar tried to claim when they tossed AntiTrust at Apple.
but the market is Personal Computing Systems, if which Apple is a merely 8% (give or take a percent). as such, the courts have validated that due to a lack of market power, Apple can do whatever they want in regards to tying hardware and software.
now when they get to more like 40-50%, the issue becomes dicey and the courts might say otherwise, which is part of why I don't think Apple is in all that much of a rush to push their share growth too hard. thus why no cheap ass computers etc