Apple attempted to silence newspaper profile of Steve Jobs - Page 3

that was what 10-12 years ago. Steve came back, cleaned house and has hand picked, trained and supervised a good 90% if not 100% of the top staff. you can bet that those folks know exactly what he's thinking and planning and are in the game. very much unlike when he left the first time.

I disagree. If you have contacts synced in multiple places, and the contact information is the same in all of them, the system should be smart enough to know not to duplicate the entries. From a user's perspective this is a bug. Contact syncs should be based on content not source, e.g. I should not get the same contact multiple times just because it is coming through multiple sources. Badgering users and making out like they are dummies for having the audacity to have check-boxes checked in multiple-programs is silly.

How dare those users expect software to behave sensibly!

you mean the Sam Walton that started a company that was and might still be totally anti-union. so anti-union that there are reports of spies being sent into stores and such to look for signs of attempts to unionize and anyone guilty of even uttering the world was let go. people being paid barely above minimum wage, keep on part time so they didn't have to get benefits, not getting decent cost of living raises or merit raises.

that Sam Walton (don't even get me started on his tactics for running smaller shops out of business). yeah, a real saint. NOT


a fair number of those complainers are probably duplicates. it's not uncommon for folks to be on several boards and post the same comments on all of them.

also, consider how many complaints there are against how many devices there are. is it really that many or are we talking about another 15 incidents out of 175k devices made sort of deal. there's was what 15 million phones sold in 2008, add to that the phones this year and in 2007 and we are talking probably an easy 20 million. these 'bug' posts are maybe 1000 devices. not bad numbers really. after all, no product as detailed as a smart phone or a computer is going to be 100% perfect in all models. s--- happens.

OS X 10.5.7 wasn't smart enough to not duplicate the info for me when I moved from a Windows 7 machine to a Mac with my iPhone. I had my contacts synced with Google Sync on my iPhone. When I moved to the Mac, Address Book duplicated my contacts so now they are doubled up.

I had to manually select Google Sync contacts instead of All Contacts on my iPhone to stop the duplications from being displayed on my iPhone.

And yet there are still those falling for it - one just has to read some of the comments in this thread

Appleyard must have written his article right after he finished watching "Pirates of Silicon Valley".

What happened to it just works? Shouldn't be a big deal for apple to detect if the contacts have the same info and not make duplicates. My outlook does that already. Maybe tomorrow I'll try it on my blackberry but we have an older version of bes and I'm not sure if it has over the air sync of contacts like microsoft does with active sync

It's embarrassing, when the great thundering Times has become a gossip magazine. That's what Rupert is doing to it.

If you like the products, you can see the profits and losses, why do you want to see what Steve eats for breakfast? Want to see a videotape of his operation? Our media are turning us into a bunch of hypnotized readers of celebrity news.

And this idiot wants to diagnose the "narcissistic personality" from afar? Hey, I got a diagnosis for him: he's the kind of moron who works for Woopert Murdoch.

All part of his plan to charge for all of his "news" websites by next year. His only hope is to publish sensationalized "news", holding on to the pipe dream that people will actually pay his pathetic online subscription fees for this kind of tripe.

I wonder if he ever feels like the last holdout horse-and-buggy dealer with that dying news empire of his.

The only racist thing I've seen on this thread is the term "gringo"

I wish I am lucky enough to work with such a gifted person. All these criticisms I look at as jealousy and nothing more.

Name a person who created so much fun for so many people. If Apple is a cult, I am happy to be one the devotees. And the man who made it all possible is my hero.

If he is so bad, why even research and write about him? Stupid gossipers masquerading as journalist. Can't believe myself after reading this trash on Times online.

silencing journalists is a very honourable thing, seeing as 95% of them are lying, greedy, uneducated, know all, manipulative, blackmailing idiots (and the list of adjectives could have go one for pages...they make it easy.) Apologies to the decent 5%.

They print these stories just to get a big hand out and few macs to go along (because they are to cheap to purchase the macs with the big hand out )

For some really inspiring moments watch Steve's commencement speech.

So who do you think did worse by Latin America: Ernesto Guevara or the multitude of CIA-backed dictators like Augusto Pinochet?

"only make minimal, low-level software and they only do it *just* enough to add value to the hardware"

er no actually. The pro software apple makes such as final cut pro, aperture and the dominating logic are hardly low level. Iphone is really all about software when you compare it to other smartphones. To say Dell is anywhere near that level of sophistication with software is just plain wrong. The majority of their business is boxing up and selling on windows and parts from other suppliers. Nothing wrong with that though, I just don't like their hardware or choice of operating system. I have two dells for the record.

On the whole I thought the article was interesting in parts albeit a bit negative and biased against Steve but why not judge for yourself at http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...ffset=0&page=1

You refer to the Cuban missile crisis. Last time I checked, Fidel Castro was the man in charge of Cuba back then, not "Che and his cohorts". Did you mean Castro?

Please that so bloody untrue, you sensitive pooor boy, I could say that and I am Black, a Indian could say that.

Please let get pass this sensitive society crap that USA had developed and pushing on the world, due to their issues. If you fart in USA, you are being racist to the air!

The pot calling the kettle black then.

Also, Steve isn't Latino, and dictatorships aren't an idea exclusive to Latin America. I suppose making any reference to Nazis is racist against Germans, because we so rarely think of anything else the Germans did without thinking of that era.

A profitable Dell with some geniuses working for it, making its own OS and equipment, which is world-class design, with big profit margins instead of being in the red. In otber words, not like Dell.

Only this was about 1978. The "incident" is a scene in Pirates of Silicon Valley. The character came in spouting the usual business-school jargon. Jobs wasn't interested.

I remember when Microsoft hired Nathan Myhrvold as their uber-genius-type CTO. He was just going to think up great stuff, you know, out of the blue. I wonder how that worked out... Hmm... Last I heard, he was buying patents for a patent troll venture he founded.

Being smart != being creative.


Which brings to mind this quote from El Jobso:

As Henry Kissinger once said, "95% of the politicians give the other 5% a bad name."

They were both equally bad.

What's your point?

Learn history my friend - Guevara earned the nickname 'Castro's Brain' for good reason. He was an instrumental part of Castro's 26th of July movement, and was second in command during the insurgency in Cuba that deposed Batista. After the revolution, he served in the new Cuban government as minister of industries, national bank president, and training director for Cuba's armed forces. More interestingly, he oversaw the appeals process and the firing squads, and personally oversaw the executions of hundreds of prisoners. During the war, he was feared as a ruthless disciplinarian who would execute defectors without hesitation, and who would send out execution squads to dispose of revolutionaries who decided to quit fighting, whom he considered to be traitors. He became feared for his summary executions of those accused of being spies, informers, or deserters, conducted without trials. As for the Cuban missile crisis, Guevara was the architect of Soviet-Cuban relations. He played a key role in bringing the missiles to Cuba.

A lot of self-described leftists and anti-government types have embraced Che without possessing any knowledge at all regarding just what sort of man he actually was. Che is not a snazzy image on a t-shirt - the man was a brutal killer.

I encourage you to read up on Che just a little - you clearly don't know much about him, as you were unaware of his significant involvement with Cuba. Wikipedia has a lengthy article on him - start there.

If they give out awards for thread drift, I nominate this one.

The image of the cast of Arrested Development each doing their version of the chicken dance in the aisles of some presentation hall with Jobs on-stage. Oh, what I would pay to see Jobs react to that!

Your comment not-withstanding, of course. Only CERTAIN off-topic remarks are worthy of comment, I suppose.

Steve Jobs is Hitler. There, I said it.

Ah, I see. If someone posts lengthy diatribes with absolutely no relationship to the thread topic, then the equally guilty party is the one who points it out.

Not my point at all, but I did find it to be ironic of you to do so.

Here is the problem I have with what you said: You have essentially appointed yourself as moderator of this forum; this isn't the first time you have complained about people being off-topic here. From my perspective you have staked out a position where you consider yourself to be the arbiter of what is germane or appropriate for discussion. But of course, you base that position only tenuously upon the original topic; the rest comes from your own ideas, interests, and perceptions. If someone had said something you felt strongly about, you would have waded in off topic or not. In the end, then, your use of words like 'diatribe' reflect your own biases more than they reflect the circumstances. To be fair, I understand what you are getting at - I just think you could have done it a little less abrasively and arrogantly.

To be clear, I was not the one who went off topic to begin with. However, someone posted a message that glorifies a historical figure who was objectively a murderous thug, and that kind of uninformed or willful misreading of history is something I feel very strongly about. If someone wrote here that the Holocaust never happened, I bet you would speak against that almost immediately. So of course, I said something about it, and would do so again.

Dr Millmoss is correct though, this thread has gotten more than a bit derailed. Some of it is interesting, but still, wandering a bit too far off topic.

My argument here, in short: Pot, kettle, black.

Sorry, I really don't see how you're in the right here. Just pointing this out doesn't makes him a self-appointed moderator. If that's the case, by your own standard, harping on him about pointing this out would seem to suggest that you're appointing yourself as a moderator.

You seem to have taken it personally, it wasn't a specific indictment against any one person, and we're all guilty of it from time to time.

We tend to just let it go, but if it's about politics, that tends to get derailed quickly enough that I try to discourage it from getting too far out of hand.

Thank you. Irony has to be one of the most abused words in the English language. And no, I don't want to discuss that. Suffice to say, it isn't going off topic to remind the other participants in the forum that going off topic is... going off topic. You don't have to be a moderator to understand that concept. I was careful to not direct my remark to anyone in particular.

I stand corrected - apologies.

No problem, if I came across a bit aggressive myself, I'm sorry about that.

Ha, ha, great quote!

I wonder where henry would position himself.

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timeless tv lines...


I wish Buster and Annyong had do the chicken dance.