Originally Posted by NoahJ
No, you can not.
I think Floorjack's reply was sarcastic....
, never a truer word was spoken in jest. I am not suggesting that this was the case here, although there was
sworn testimony given in the Megrahi case that pointed to such.
Those who gain by terrorism have on countless times in history used such, even against their own people or nation, while blaming an established enemy, in order to gain public support for a program, agenda, or war(s) that would otherwise be a no-go in the minds of the public of that nation.
"False flags" are very commonplace. Whenever there's a major terrorist case (or other "funny business" that leads to war), they should be considered as one of the more likely scenarios; they are a common modus operandum in politics, and many nations have tried such methods sometime in their histories.
"False flags" sometimes don't even require actual violence to get the public support for an agenda. 3 of the US recent major wars all started as a result of a variant on the false flag principle, by solely using deception:
(a) Gulf of Tonkin Incident. A public not keen on a military involvement in south east Asia were swayed by this report of North Vietnamese military aggression, splayed all over the US media, which never checked into the accuracy of the story. It never happened
(b) 1991 Gulf War. The US public was split 50:50 on whether to support a US led coalition to respond to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. The GHWB admin, itching for military action, hatched a plot with the PR firm Hill Knowlton and the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador: Along comes came the outrageous, emotionally sapping, tear-jerking story of Kuwaiti babies being tossed out of incubators by Saddam's army to die on the unheated hospital floors. The US mainstream media lapped up the story and gave it blanket coverage (again without checking their sources' credibility), and spoon-fed the gullible US public. Overall support for military action rocketed to 90%, and other nations bought into it as well. Mission accomplished, indeed. The problem being, the Kuwaiti babies story was 100% bogus
(c) 2003-2XXX Iraq War. The GWB admin. was busting for war, and had been planning it since well before 9/11. The neocons got Colin Powell to lie to the world in his UN speech all about WMDs, including mobile bioweapons labs which could launch biological and chemical weapons at 45 minutes notice. The US public was scared near shitless by Fox, CNN and the rest, with stores quickly selling out of plastic sheeting and duct tape. None of this stuff was true
, ad the admin knew it all along...., but the media, as usual never checking the veracity of this material and sources, did their part in persuading the public to support the invasion. (This case is slightly different, as GWB was going ahead with the war, no matter what).
Floorjack mentioned Israel (probably in jest), but really, that nation would probably not exist today if it wasn't for the terrorist activities of the Irgun and Stern Gang etc.... and being a very small nation in an area surrounded by larger and hostile nations, they had had to pull every trick in the book. Mossad even has as their motto "By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War". (I am not justifying the way that Israel got started, but the circumstances of WWII did make for a special case in the minds of most).
Its not wild conspiracy speculation to suggest alternative realities to the often fabricated fairy tales presented by government(s) of all stripes and political persuasions, all over the world, with mainstream media always dutifully in tow. Governments (including ours) have lied and pulled so many stunts like the above (and on occasions far, far worse), on so many occasions, that we really have shaky grounds to believe their versions of such events, as regards the motivation and/or perps behind major events relating to terrorism and the motivation for wars that often follow.
Perhaps our blanket denial is expected: we all feel disbelief and outrage when told unacceptable news, for example, 'I am sorry, but your favorite uncle just happens to be a child molester".