[quote]Originally posted by sizzle chest:
All right, all right, the M3 is an exception. Can't a guy make a sweeping generalization any more? I've been hating on BMWs for so long that now that they finally make ONE car that basically beats all the German competition in its class, I can't see saying "BMWs suck.... except the M3." It's easier just to keep it simple!
Jonathan, even if Quattro WERE all that Audi had going for it, that's pretty big, unless you're always going to be driving in a straight line on dry pavement.
And if you think Audis are just "tarted up" VWs, then you haven't been inside an Audi since the 5000 or so, I guess.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hmmm... let's see. My god, the amount of sheer idiocy represented in this post is beyond my comprehension.
Let's dissect, shall we?
You say "finally BMW makes a car that beats all German competition in it's class"
Hmm, looks to me like just about every BMW model for the past, oh, 5 or 6 years has soundly beaten its competitors, German, American, or Japanese, in most comparison tests in car magazines.
Re: Quattro. Yes, it's a good thing for when you're going off-roading in your $40,000 dollar sport sedan
As for wet/snow performance, I would venture that the skid protection fitted to all BMW's and Mercedeses is perfectly sufficient for most wet conditions. Sure, it's not going to blast through a snowbank, but, then again, neither will an Audi... And if you really want AWD, you can get it on some BMW's and Mercedeses.
And yes, I have been inside an Audi this side of the 5000... I drove an A4 1.8T just the other day, actually, mr. sizzle chest, and I was immediately struck by how similar to the interior of a modern Jetta/Passat it was. Granted, the TT has a very, er, unique (read, cheap looking) interior to it, but the fundamental design ethos behind the interiors are very similar.
In addition, Audi seats SUCK. Even the sportiest ones that I could find in the dealership, being in the S4, seemed like flat benches with very little lateral support.
I do like the diversity in interior finishes that Audi offers. It's nice to be able to, with little difficulty, order a non-standard color of leather or Alcantara, with a wierd wood or something.
Fact is, I just can't stand cars that require forced induction (turbocharger) to make power. It seems that it's cheating: It's clear that Audi can't seem to make a normally aspirated engine that is anywhere near as brawny or usable as a normally aspirated BMW engine.
If I had to buy an Audi, it'd be an RS4 or an S8 cars that have no competitors from BMW. In every other category, though, I think that the Audi offering gets stomped all over by their BMW counterparts.