Apple confirms annual iPod event for September 9 - Page 3

duh- that's because iPhone users have no choice due to battery consumption needed for calls.Touch users should have that option of a flash.

Yeah, we want touch users to be able to deep cycle their batteries in a much shorter time frame, if they want.

Very likely:

• iPod touch with camera, larger storage (16 to 64 GB), lower price.
• iPod nano with camera.
• iTunes 9 with app organization and Cocktail.
• iPhone 3.1 and iPod touch 3.1 OS update.

Somewhat likely:

• iPod nano with larger storage (16 - 32 GB).
• iPod classic with camera. Possibly larger storage (160 GB).
• iTunes 9 with social networking, Blu-Ray, and TV subscription.

Wildcard:

• iPod shuffle refresh (new color?).
• Apple TV 3.0 and possibly hardware refresh (1080p, larger hard disk?).

Um, because it's IN the article?

And with one sentence you invalidate any claim
you make of being an 'audiofile'.
Oh... I have tons of flashless pics from my phone that are terrific. I just use a little creativity.
Flash from the camera generally sucks anyway. Flattens everything.
You must be one of those geniuses who use flash at a concert from the 50th row.

A forum would be a boring place indeed without its "characters".

Because most of my photos are of people and people tend to congregate indoors I find that nearly half my photos require a flash (or the tripod that everyone carries around in their back pocket). For a camera on an iPod I certainly don't expect a flash.

The presence of a camera in an iPod isn't really an selling point for me, but because I don't have a camera in my cell phone I might actually use it once in a while.

Great summary.

If all the current shuffles have been discontinued as was rumored then a new color or other minor change requiring a new model number becomes a near certainty.

I'd say the classic with camera is highly unlikely and unless Apple opts for the thicker design they rejected last time increased capacity is out because the drives themselves have topped out at 120GB per platter. I'd say it's more likely Apple will simply keep the classic on the price list for another year to appease those who say 64GB isn't enough. In reality there is demand for iPods with storage all the way up to 500GB as well as those with the ability to serve as general purpose hard drives like the original iPods, but Apple is infamous for only serving the customers it wants to.

Quote: It's only rock and roll, but we like it.
Translation: It's only iPods (not tablets), but we like it.

Good question. I wouldn't be surprised to see something new, that runs the iPhone OS and thus has a placeholder iProd1,1. I'm swayed away from the tablets for now.
AppleTV, tiny laptop with iPhoneOS, or adding basic phone ONLY to iPod Nano (no internet stuff or iPhone apps).

Who knows. I'll bet on AppleTV.


I think that Cocktail music 'albums' is likely, within iTunes 9, linked with a new iPhoneOS 3.1 too.

As for wireless hard drives - I also hope, desperately, they improve the way we access, store and share our media. As a minimum - a network hard drive with ALL our music, and the local hard drive with a SUBSET (sync) of our music would be brilliant, and usage could largely mimic current iPhone/Pod sync methods. I'd like a small amount of music & photos on my laptop.

I think Spotify and Rhapsody have both submitted apps to the app store.
If they are accepted, your wait will be over.

Must be looking at two different articles.
I don't see anything like that.
Okay. You were posting about a different article -> Sources: Apple to unveil new iPod lineup on September 9
not this one -> Apple confirms annual iPod event for September 9, which this thread is about.

I don't know if it is asking too much but iTunes 9 should maintain PowerPC and Tiger compatibility while also becoming less of a resource hog.

If they rewrite iTunes in Cocoa, I imagine it'll have a few opportunities to change and improve. Although I disagreed with the iMovie 08 update (it lost too much), the significant change and rethink that brought with it would be welcome in iTunes IMO. Let's hope they don't just tack on cocktail and social media to the existing code!

Speaking of social media, there's room for some interesting things there. For example, a relatively simple possibility is that Apple could create a social-media-website for users with:
1) links to selected playlists, that you recommend to friends. Friends can play the 30second demo from iTunes and buy if they like.
2) latest photo albums (or is that events? or slideshows?... they really should clean that up)
3) published calendars
4) list of trailers for movies you mark as "interesting"
5) safari bookmarks - show people what you find interesting on the web
6) public area for files (idisk)
7) integrated iChat (Mac only)
8) current location?

That's before they actually offer anything directly managing a social-media page. And most of that could work direct from iPhone, iTunes(Mac) or iTunes(Windows)

I THINK I'd rather see them just put that information up on an existing service... but I'm not positive.

CD is digital.

I still have 500 vinyl LPs as well as a large CD collection and I worship at the altar of great graphics and liner notes and I'm a sucker for well produced boxed sets, like the ones Rhino used to produce, but the reality is no one really gives a crap anymore. People care who their favorite performer is going out with or how badly they behaved on some reality show, but no one really takes any music seriously, which is why most music is so bad and uninspiring these days. Music used to be listened to in the context of an album which was usually defined by a concept, but now we're back to the simplicity of the early 1960s when little girls used to buy their little singles.

It's actually amazing to me that the new Beatles boxed sets are selling out, but I guess the Beatles continue to break all the rules and they're probably primarily selling to 50-year-olds. There are forums for this and people are really going nuts...just on the debate over remastered vs. remixed, there's something like 900 posts on Amazon alone. The ABKCO SACD Stones remasters and the Dylan SACD remasters got a great big yawn. In fact, I don't even think you can even buy those versions anymore unless your local record store has old stock. (Record store? What's that?)

Back in the 1970s, when the conglomerates started eating up all the independent labels and then we went into a bit of a recession, the labels deleted tons of product. It didn't come back until the advent of CD. The same thing seems to be happening again, due to the combination of physical sales substantially declining, the demise of record stores and the recession. I've noticed that about 35% of my CD collection is no longer available and more than 50% of my boxed sets have been discontinued. I think the tracks will largely show up online, but there's a whole lot of music culture and history that is simply not going to be available in physical form anymore.

Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality. I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.

When you say 'uncompressed' I presume you mean CDs?

The reason I ask is that given CDs aren't a perfect reproduction, is there scope for a compressed format that is actually better than a CD?


That is truly a worry!

You pretend you can.

yeayeayeayea she love's you yeayeayea

Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.

Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been,
Lives in a dream.
Waits at the window, wearing a face that she keeps in a jar by the door,
Who is it for?

All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?

Father McKenzie, writing the words of a sermon that no-one will hear,
No-one comes near
Look at him working, darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there,
What does he care?

All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?

Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.

Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name.
Nobody came.
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave.
No-one was saved.

All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?

cd sound like shit
vinyl has a fabric that makes beatles shine

if the beatles come to itunes it will strike a death blow to any other music player vendor
million never forgot the beatles
millions will now find out how great they are/were

peace

9

lossless transfer ??
aiff is best
just drag the files from the disc onto your hard drive
then import at aiff setting
lossless is still 50% compressed

And for the record: since when are Jack Johnson and John Meyer and their like considered Rock n Roll? Lame. If you're gonna call an event rock n roll, then give us rock n roll.

Touch users don't need power for phone calls, etc.

Apple lossless files are compressed to around 50% of the file size, but it is still a true Lossless codec (i.e. returns the same waveform as the original, the exact original data reconstructed from the compressed data).

Sort of like a zip file.

No- you must have tons of underexposed pics that are worthless and wasted precious moments.

No problem. That was kind of funnny. Kind of.

Dat true- but what would you buy, a Beatles CD or an iTunes file?

Ah... well that's embarrassing. \

The Beatles and Stones were friends, at least back in the day, and several of the Beatles jammed on a few cuts on the Stones one venture into psychedelia (my fave Stones album ever which no one recognizes when I play a few cuts for people) - "Their Satanic Majesties Request"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Their_S...esties_Request

So the event title doesn't, methinks at least, totally preclude an overdue "#9, #9, #9" resolution between Apple and Apple.

Yes, if it's lossless compression. It would have to be a higher sampling rate and word length, like the 96/24 of DVD-Audio or the 1-bit audio of SACD. But those high-resolution formats completely failed in the marketplace in physical CD form because people chose the convenience of portable audio over quality and because even in testing, 95% of people could not tell the difference between standard 44.1/16 Redbook CD and the high resolution formats. Some people think the new Blu-ray Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio formats are the future for high-resolution audio, but I just don't see the labels going there in the short term.

A well recorded and mastered CD is actually quite wonderful, as good if not better than anything we heard in the studio back in the 1970s and 1980s. The problem is playing them back on a $30 CD player that has inferior D to A conversion as well as poor recording, mixing and mastering techniques. CDs have the capability of 90db of dynamic range and the tendency today is to give them less dynamic range than LPs were capable of, just to make everything sound louder. But overcompressed audio sounds like crap.

In the 1960s and 70s, there was tremendous interest in high-end audio, but that market is pretty much dead, except for extreme audiophiles and to some extent, in home theatre. And in spite of all the hype about renewed interest in vinyl (which actually doesn't sound better, people just want to believe that it does), in 2008, it was less than 1/2 of 1% of unit sales in the marketplace. That's not a market, it's a rounding error.

The only way we're going to get to better audio is if people want a multichannel experience at home: 5.1 or more channels. The better quality will come along for the ride.

yes
and no
not only do you lose 50% percent < by compressing and un compressing the sound it becomes cold metal like> you lose the warm rich bright bass sound .>>
the cd digital process itself lowers the highs and and shortens the low wave lengths

loseless to most people is fine > our damaged hearing from loud rock and roll could not tell the difference anyway and since space until recently was so hard to keep smaller files was sorley needed .

BUT now its all changed gigbits are cheap and dragging a file straight from the cd to harddrive give you exactly what the band intended you to hear
the files are large i know .
AIFF IS THE FORMAT
So for a live bootleg soundboard by pink floyd a AIFF file give you as close to what the band heard during a live show as possible
AIFF for a studio album gives you exactly what the sound mixer intended . EXACTLY .
LOSLESS i find to be a litle less bright and cold

this really matters for hendrix and the who and bands like that
for milli Vanilli mp3 or mp2 is fine

Of course if you own a 160g ipod classic AIFF ROCKS
IF YOU own a iphone lossless is still too large

just some thoughts

go beatles

PLay maxwells silver hammer in lossless and AIFF and you may see what i mean .

i would try to buy a beatles 5.1 audio DVD if it exists
or buy an album which is the best since the 5.1 or 7.1 dvd is mastered from an analog gold audiophile album anyway
last choice would be the new reissued cd's

ITUNES is 3 yrs away from true HD .or ACC file encoding. But itunes can now import winmax and the wav so i forgive itunes


The beatles will rock the world

great info
great post
except vinyl sound true to what the artist intended when played back on say a SANSUI 5000 b
VINLY in a pure digital world may not sound better
And vinyl may have 10 good playbacks before degrading
BUT play
FROM WOODSTOCK's on vinly
ALVIN LEE'S >>> I GO HOME >>>>
The timbre or fabric or brightness of that song is not as good in the cd world
maybe a sacd froma gold master would be close .BUT i go on vinly is miind blowing

of course i may be wrong about all this i was alive for each beatle album release .

That would be a Beatles Blu-ray audio.

PS: What does "I am A Walrus" mean?

Agree. Given Apple's legendary secrecy, using the Stones reference could be the perfect red herring for a return to the "one more thing...[Beatles catalog]"

or S A C D
OR A C C 5.1
// 7.1
OR
GOLD AUDIO PHILE DISC FROM MASTER

OR DVD ECODED IN Q SOUND
>>>>>
A H AHA

PAUL IS DEAD
PAUL ID DEad
NUMBEE 9 NUMBER9 NUMBER 9

THE WALRUS PLAYED BACK WORDS SAID OR SAYS PAUL IS THE WALRUS
PAUL IS DEAD >>>>>>

READ THIS WHILE I THINK OFANWSER
I

Two of us riding nowhere
Spending someone's
Hard earned pay
Two of us Sunday driving
Not arriving
On our way back home
We're on our way home
We're on our way home
We're going home

Two of us sending postcards
Writing letters
On my wall
You and me burning matches
Lifting latches
On our way back home
We're on our way home
We're on our way home
We're going home

You and I have memories
Longer than the road that stretches out ahead

Two of us wearing raincoats
Standing so low
In the sun
You and me chasing paper
Getting nowhere
On our way back home
We're on our way home
We're on our way home
We're going home

You and I have memories
Longer than the road that stretches out ahead

Two of us wearing raincoats
Standing so low
In the sun
You and me chasing paper
Getting nowhere
On our way back home
We're on our way home
We're on our way home
We're going home

We're going home
Better believe it
>>>>>>


I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Mister City P'liceman sitting
Pretty little p'licemen in a row.
See how they fly like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run.
I'm crying, I'm crying.
I'm crying, I'm crying.

Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog's eye.
Crabalocker fishwife, pornographic priestess,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you let your knickers down.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun.
If the sun don't come, you get a tan
From standing in the English rain.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.

Expert textpert choking smokers,
Don't you thing the joker laughs at you?
See how they smile like pigs in a sty,
See how they snied.
I'm crying.

Semolina pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower.
Elementary penguin singing Hari Krishna.
Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allan Poe.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.
Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo...

TO ME IT MEANT JOHN WAS SAD ABOUT ALL THE BULLSHIT OF 66/67 LIFE AS A BEATLE JOHN WAS SAD ABOUT A LOSS OF INNOCENCE HIS AND THE WORLDS
>>>>
WINI SAYS THIS
>>>m Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"I Am the Walrus"

Single by The Beatles
from the album Magical Mystery Tour
A-side\t"Hello Goodbye"
Released\t24 November 1967 (UK)
27 November 1967 (U.S.)
Format\t7"
Recorded\tAbbey Road Studios
5 September 1967
Genre\tPsychedelic rock
Length\t4:34
Label\tParlophone (UK)
Capitol Records (U.S.)
Writer(s)\tLennon/McCartney
Producer\tGeorge Martin
The Beatles singles chronology
"All You Need Is Love"
(1967)\t"Hello, Goodbye"
(1967)\t"Lady Madonna"
(1968)
Magical Mystery Tour track listing
"Your Mother Should Know"
(5)\t"I Am the Walrus"
(6)\t"Hello Goodbye"
(7)
Love track listing
"Eleanor Rigby/Julia (transition)"
(4)\t"I Am the Walrus"
(5)\t"I Want to Hold Your Hand"
(6)
"I Am the Walrus" is a 1967 song by The Beatles, written by John Lennon and credited to Lennon/McCartney.[1] Lennon claimed he wrote the first two lines on separate acid trips.[2] The song was in The Beatles' 1967 television film and album Magical Mystery Tour, and was the B-side to the #1 hit "Hello, Goodbye".

Lennon composed the avant-garde song by combining three songs he had been working on. When he learned that a teacher at his old primary school was having his students analyse Beatles' lyrics, he added a verse of nonsense words.[3]

The walrus is a reference to the walrus in Lewis Carroll's "The Walrus and the Carpenter" (from the book Through the Looking-Glass). Lennon expressed dismay upon learning that the walrus was a villain in the poem.

Contents [hide]
1 Origins
2 Recording
3 Personnel
4 Reception
5 Interpretation
5.1 Who was the walrus?
5.2 Who was the Eggman?
6 Cover versions
7 Notes
8 References

[edit]Origins

The genesis of the lyrics is found in three song ideas that Lennon was working on, the first of which was inspired by hearing a police siren at his home in Weybridge; Lennon wrote the lines "Mis-ter cit-y police-man" to the rhythm of the siren. The second idea was a short rhyme about Lennon sitting in his garden, while the third was a nonsense lyric about sitting on a corn flake. Unable to finish the ideas as three different songs, he combined them into one.

Lennon received a letter from a pupil at Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended. The writer mentioned that the English master was making his class analyse Beatles lyrics. (Lennon wrote an answer, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992.) Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting so much effort into understanding The Beatles' lyrics, wrote the most confusing lyrics he could. Lennon's friend and former fellow member of The Quarrymen, Peter Shotton, was visiting, and Lennon asked Shotton about a playground nursery rhyme they sang as children.

Shotton remembered:

"Yellow matter custard, green slop pie,
All mixed together with a dead dog's eye,
Slap it on a butty, ten foot thick,
Then wash it all down with a cup of cold sick".[4]
Lennon borrowed a couple of words, added the three unfinished ideas and the result was "I Am the Walrus". The Beatles' official biographer Hunter Davies was present while the song was being written and wrote an account in his 1968 book on the band. Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let the fuckers work that one out."[3]

All the chords are major chords or seventh chords, and all the musical letters of the alphabet (A, B, C, D, E, F and G) are used. The song ends with a chord progression built on ascending and descending lines in the bass and strings, repeated over and over as the song fades. Musicologist Alan W. Pollack analyses: "The chord progression of the outro itself is a harmonic Moebius strip with scales in bassline and top voice that move in contrary motion."[5] The bassline descends stepwise A, G, F, E, D, C, and B, while the strings' part rises A, B, C, D, E, F#, G: this sequence repeats as the song fades, with the strings rising higher on each iteration. Pollack also notes that the repeated cell is seven bars long, which means that a different chord begins each four-bar phrase.

Lennon explained much of the song to Playboy in 1980:[2]

"The first line was written on one acid trip one weekend. The second line was written on the next acid trip the next weekend, and it was filled in after I met Yoko... I'd seen Allen Ginsberg and some other people who liked Dylan and Jesus going on about Hare Krishna. It was Ginsburg, in particular, I was referring to. The words "Element'ry penguin" meant that it's näive to just go around chanting Hare Krishna or putting all your faith in one idol. In those days I was writing obscurely, a la Dylan."
"It never dawned on me that Lewis Carroll was commenting on the capitalist system. I never went into that bit about what he really meant, like people are doing with the Beatles' work. Later, I went back and looked at it and realized that the walrus was the bad guy in the story and the carpenter was the good guy. I thought, Oh, shit, I picked the wrong guy. I should have said, 'I am the carpenter.' But that wouldn't have been the same, would it? [Sings, laughing] 'I am the carpenter....'"
Some have speculated that the opening line, "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together", is a parody of the opening line of "Marching to Pretoria", a folk song: "I'm with you and you're with me and we are all together." [6]


[edit]Recording

"I Am the Walrus" was the first studio recording made after the death of The Beatles' manager Brian Epstein in August 1967. The basic backing track featuring The Beatles was released in 1996 on Anthology 2. George Martin arranged and added orchestral accompaniment that included violins, cellos, horns, clarinet and a 16-piece choir. Paul McCartney said that Lennon gave instructions to Martin as to how he wished the orchestration to be scored, including singing most of the parts as a guide. A large group of professional studio vocalists named "The Mike Sammes Singers", took part in the recording as well, variously singing "Ho-ho-ho, hee-hee-hee, ha-ha-ha", "oompah, oompah, stick it up your jumper!", "got one, got one, everybody's got one" and making a series of shrill whooping noises.[7]

The dramatic reading in the mix towards the end of the song is a few lines of Shakespeare's King Lear (Act IV, Scene VI), which were added to the song direct from an AM radio receiving the broadcast of the play on the BBC Home Service (or possibly the BBC Third Programme).[3] The bulk of the audible dialogue, heard in the fade, is the death scene of the character Oswald (including the words, "O untimely Death! Death!"); this is a piece of the Paul is Dead urban legend.

In the original (1967) stereo release, at around two minutes through the song, the mix changes from true stereo to "fake stereo" (with most of the bass on one channel, and most of the treble on the other). This came about because the radio broadcast had been added ‘live’, off-air, into the mono mix-down and so was unavailable for inclusion in the stereo mix; hence, fake stereo from the mono mix was created for this portion of the song. In 2003, the first-ever true stereo mix of the song (excepting the introduction) was included on The Beatles Anthology soundtrack DVD, and in 2006, the first-ever stereo mix of the complete song (from beginning to end, including the formerly "fake stereo" second half) was issued on The Beatles' album Love. The true stereo mix had been made possible when a separate recording of the same King Lear radio performance used in the original mix was located.

The mono version opens with a four-beat chord while stereo mix features six beats on the initial chord. The U.S. mono single mix also includes an extra bar of music before the words "yellow matter custard"; an early, overdub-free mix of the song released on The Beatles Anthology 2 reveals John singing the lyrics "Yellow mat - " too early—this was edited out.


[edit]Personnel

yea and some jap company will make hundreds of them

Yes, you go out and buy either an external or internal BluRay drive and install it yourself. Of course you wasted your money on a useless product for a computer, but I am sure some dumbshit went out and bought one. Wow, $25+ per disc. What a bargain.

What about giving iTunes a new app icon? Perhaps that's the biggest news with iTunes 9?

It's weird that Apple is clingin on to the CD as an icon for their music playing software. I don't know about you but I'm rarely using CD's for playing music anymore.

Please look up "lossless compression". Thanks! You're unfortunately spreading misinformation.