Lots of torches and pitchforks in the air toward AT&T without much, if any, consideration for the facts of the situation. There are some good posts in here, too, but unfortunately they are being over shadowed by all the crying and screaming. Whats worse is that the objective viewpoints are likely being seen as AT&T apologists when they are only pointing out that the iPhones success would likely cause problems with any of the US carriers if the data usage was left as unregulated as it is on AT&Ts network.
Originally Posted by wizard69
AT&T has been building out their network since before the first iPhone hit the shelfs. In fact between them and the other carriers they even drew congressional interest due to tower construction accidents. To imply AT&T is not working on it is simply silly.
Is there any info on how much the 3 other major US carriers have put into upping their network?
Originally Posted by domerdel2
looking from a 30,000 ft. perspective.. why is AT&T investing this much in 3G? By this time next year, Verizon is planning LTE (4G) ... I could be missing many factors into this, but it's like if 4G wasn't on the rise, AT&T would be throwing money at EDGE... seems like they're a step behind... i'm hoping verizon gets the iPhone....
You are using marketing terms here: 3G and 4G. Do you know what they really mean? Do you realize that CDMA2000 is coming to a dead end that is requiring CDMA-based carriers to move to LTE (4G) as the next logical step and that UMTS (3G) is still in its infancy, thus allowing GSM-based carriers to use it effectively for many years to come with a more reliable and cheap foundation than LTE will be to CDMA-based carriers. Evolved HSPA, still considered 3G, will allow for 42Mbps down/22Mbps up. That is still a long way off considering we dont even have the HW to support those kind of 3G speeds in a phone. LTE has much greater potential than HSPA+, but that isnt why Verizon and most other CDMA-based carriers have chosen it. Theyve chosen it because its the best choice between WiMAX and now defunct UMB. I predict that well likely see HSPA+, still 3G, speeds besting LTE for some time to come, but by the time LTE is up to par GSM-based carriers will be well on their way to deploying LTE of their own. Sprint has dug themselves yet another hole with WiMAX.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimizedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Accesshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
"As of August 2009, there are 12 HSPA+ networks running in the world at 21Mbit/s and the first 28Mbit/s network has been completed in Italy. The first to launch was Telstra in Australia in late 2008, with Australia-wide access in February 2009 with speeds up to 21Mbit/sec."
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Like I've said before, wait till (and if) Verizon gets the iPhone. They'll be on their knees too, crying 'uncle.' They should be careful what they wish for!
I really want Verizon to get the iPhone so that we can see their network fall victim to such excessive usage and to alleviate some of the constraints on AT&Ts network.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
I don't know about Russia or Brazil, but India and China, despite being much poorer, seem to have achieved very good coverage across their impressive land masses. However, it's also possibly the case that they were able to leapfrog legacy infrastructures and technologies to be able to do so.
There are great many places in China and India without coverage. I recall having problems in India and China where my pre-paid SIM didnt work on the network I was in, much like crossing over to another country in Europe. That just doesnt happen in the US. From Puerto Rico to Hawaii the same usage rates apply.
Originally Posted by nvidia2008
Ha Ha... Global Warming... Or, NONE LIKE IT HOT!
"Just like Daddy puts in his drink in the morning.
Then he gets mad"
HAHA Next up, Electro-gonorrhea, the noisy killer.