Technical issues could delay iPod camera upgrade - Page 2

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

Stop talking nonsense. Have you upgraded to SL? If not, shut up.

I upgraded four computers to SL at home today (three from Leopard, one from Tiger) and each one went flawlessly. I am blown away by how Apple has delivered.

PS: Btw, please take trouble to do a spell-check on how the animal's name is spelled.

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

No, we haven't. We are an advertising agency and 1 hour of down time for our printer means $2,000 per hour.

I can't afford to let the floor go as our printers are high speed HP's. Our High Res Cover Proofs are Epson with EFI Rips (none of which worked on the test Snow Job Mac).

We tested 1 mac and with our corporation being on Windows almost every factor failed IT testing.

Unlike the average gaming Apple user we use computer for profit. No email, no printers, sparadic network issues and the recalibrating to of all our screens and printers to match the new Gama that is stock in Leopard (to match Windows PC and the rest of our printers) are the few I can think of.

We are doing our 2010 revised budget and since 1/2 our Macs can't upgrade we're going with Windows across the board.

Are the artists upset? Yes. But it's that or be out of a job. The profit margin has taken a huge hit and we can buy 3 PC's for the price of a Mac Pro. We've done the testing with Adobe (all the software we use on the floor) and they will honor our Mac Licenses and swap them out with PC versions for free.

I was able to cut my budget by about 15%.



So Kindly shut your holier than thou attitude and try using Macs OS to make money.
Until then Kindly GET OFF MY ASS YOU TROLL.

Originally Posted by rtdunham

The story may or may not make sense. But journalism (whether as a producer or as a consumer of it) works this way: As a reporter, when you can you attribute your stories, and as a reader you value the information depending upon the credibility of the identified source. As a reporter, if you have a source who's proven reliable in the past but refuses to be quoted, you may choose to publish the story, specifying for the reader's benefit the past reliability of that source, and as a reader, you value the information depending upon the credibility of the news source, rather than of the source himself/herself. That's pretty standard. Your response doesn't acknowledge that--and has been pointed out by others, is unduly hostile, town-meeting kind of static obscuring the discussion.

Originally Posted by aresee

What the hell are you doing upgrading in the first week of release? You never upgrade your production/money machines on the X.X.0 release. That's dumb, dumb, DUMB. You should wait for at least a month before starting your evaluation testing and then only with the X.X.1 or X.X.2 releases.

As for being faster in the Windows world. My corporation usually waits a year or more before releasing MS upgrades to the workforce. So don't give us that crap about failing IT testing. They haven't had it long enough to even get started. Besides most of ITs testing is buzzword compliance and Apple uses a different set of buzzwords.

Do your artists really need the MacPro? I think less and less people are limited to requiring the Pro. Take another look at what the artists needs are and the systems they must have to support them. You might be surprised that a Pro system is no longer needed.

BTW, most gamers use Windows. No serious gamer would be caught dead using a Mac.

Originally Posted by Dorotea

I have to believe that Apple is announcing new iPods on Wednesday and that there is no problem with the hardware. Why have the event if the iPods aren't really ready.

Originally Posted by Hattig

Indeed. "experienced technical problems with the cameras months ago" - why would they announce an event months later if they hadn't fixed it?

Maybe there was a problem - remember the rumours that Apple bought loads of 5MP cameras? Maybe those cameras had the problems, so Apple used 3.2MP cameras in the iPhone 3GS and in the upcoming iPod Touch instead of the 5MP cameras.

Originally Posted by jasenj1

No, the story is reported like Apple got a batch of BAD PARTS - flawed, broken, not working like they should, B. A. D. - from a supplier. Apple's ready to launch a significant new product and the thing gets screwed up because of a supplier's error. That is a significant story.

- Jasen.

Originally Posted by hillstones

And who is this so-called BS source that claims to have a strong track record in predicting Apple products? Here is why this story is full of it: The camera already works fine in the iPhone, so why would there be a technical problem adding it to an iPod Touch?

If you are going to post this BS as a story, at least post the moron who is making this up.

Originally Posted by aresee

What the hell are you doing upgrading in the first week of release? You never upgrade your production/money machines on the X.X.0 release. That's dumb, dumb, DUMB. You should wait for at least a month before starting your evaluation testing and then only with the X.X.1 or X.X.2 releases.

As for being faster in the Windows world. My corporation usually waits a year or more before releasing MS upgrades to the workforce. So don't give us that crap about failing IT testing. They haven't had it long enough to even get started. Besides most of ITs testing is buzzword compliance and Apple uses a different set of buzzwords.

Do your artists really need the MacPro? I think less and less people are limited to requiring the Pro. Take another look at what the artists needs are and the systems they must have to support them. You might be surprised that a Pro system is no longer needed.

BTW, most gamers use Windows. No serious gamer would be caught dead using a Mac.

Originally Posted by emulator

Have you ever heard of different designs, different manufacturers or even bad batch of production?

I know fanboys are put together in a sterile, error free environment, but still...

Originally Posted by SGSStateStudent

I only use my MBP to play Crysis. ;0

Originally Posted by nvidia2008

Have you tried Wolfenstein? Gonna install it later tonight yaaay... It might not be the greatest game but I've been waiting for something new since Fear2, Left4Dead and DeadSpace (which were all quite good by the way).

Tried Prototype but the graphics are really poor, man... Everything is f*ng made for consoles nowadays.

Mac gamers? PC gamers may soon be going extinct too. Nah, just joshing, probably not so soon.

But PC gaming is definitely a b*tchslave of console gaming, the way it's going. I mean, Batman: Arkham, NO ANTIALIASING UNLESS YOU ARE USING an NVIDIA card. So wrong.

Originally Posted by rtdunham

Let me ask you a question. Suppose you publish a blog about things Apple. Suppose you have the highest of standards and principles. Suppose your desire, above all else, is to give your readers the very best information and insights possible into things Apple. (I'm not saying AI is all that, i'm just asking you to flow with this hypothetical).

Now, suppose you hear from a source who has on, let's say, 3 occasions in the past, given you information that you did not publish, but which to even your surprise, proved to be spot on. Suppose the source hasn't been wrong yet.

So you get this information about the camera problems. Do you say nothing about it? Do you publish it as fact? Based on the source's past accuracy with you, do you report what he/she's said this time, while telling your readers of the track record? How would YOU handle it, if someone you believed had an inside line on apple news, came to you with this report, and if you were a writer/editor for a blog about things apple?

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

As I said, we are the advertising branch for our company. Nothing went live on the floor.


We have also been testing Windows 7 in conjuction with Snow Leapord. All testing has passed both corporate IT and we are actually using it on 2 test PC's and get jobs out of both every day. To move a 2gb file from our Server (PC) to our test PC's were 80% faster.

The 1 Mac we had was still copying while the PC's were already working on LIVE WORK.

Adobe has been great and has had a tech and sales person with us for over a month.

You have a lot more control when you have 29k employee's and Adobe is pushing Windows. They upgraded our Type 1 library to OpenType so we could handle the few customers we have that haven't made the change.

Edit. I didn't read the rest of your rambling. Yes, we create files that are on Average 2gb per piece. Put that 64 up on a printing plate and you need all the RAM and Computing Power you can use.

We went from Sun (Cost and yearly fee charges) to Mac's. With Windows 7 we've been given the budget for the switch and Adobe has helped us working with our other Vendor to make sure it's a smooth upgrade.

Yes, we will wait until our next quarter to make the change, until then PC Vendors are giving us everything we need to make the switch seamless. Heck even our Artist's realize change the Apple Key to Command Key and all of the shortcuts are the same (they even mapped the same for our auto workflow features).

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

As I said, we are the advertising branch for our company. Nothing went live on the floor.


We have also been testing Windows 7 in conjuction with Snow Leapord. All testing has passed both corporate IT and we are actually using it on 2 test PC's and get jobs out of both every day. To move a 2gb file from our Server (PC) to our test PC's were 80% faster.

The 1 Mac we had was still copying while the PC's were already working on LIVE WORK.

Adobe has been great and has had a tech and sales person with us for over a month.

You have a lot more control when you have 29k employee's and Adobe is pushing Windows. They upgraded our Type 1 library to OpenType so we could handle the few customers we have that haven't made the change.

Edit. I didn't read the rest of your rambling. Yes, we create files that are on Average 2gb per piece. Put that 64 up on a printing plate and you need all the RAM and Computing Power you can use.

We went from Sun (Cost and yearly fee charges) to Mac's. With Windows 7 we've been given the budget for the switch and Adobe has helped us working with our other Vendor to make sure it's a smooth upgrade.

Yes, we will wait until our next quarter to make the change, until then PC Vendors are giving us everything we need to make the switch seamless. Heck even our Artist's realize change the Apple Key to Command Key and all of the shortcuts are the same (they even mapped the same for our auto workflow features).

Originally Posted by bizwarrior

Do not let the fanboys get to you. There are a lot of reasons that windows is so dominant in the business place and will remain so. They are unwilling to admit to the problems with their operating system and other issues.

Originally Posted by the cool gut

THEY do??!??

If you have proof that Windows machines have a installed base higher than 40% I would love to see it....

... yeah - didn't think so.

Originally Posted by steviet02

Umm, what the hell are you talking about? He said they were dominant in business. Are you saying they aren't?

Originally Posted by the cool gut

What dominance is there? All the business hanging onto an 8 year old os? XP? You call that dominance. Everyone is transitioning to Linux and OSX.

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

You have a lot more control when you have 29k employee's and Adobe is pushing Windows. They upgraded our Type 1 library to OpenType so we could handle the few customers we have that haven't made the change.

Originally Posted by bizwarrior

That would be a major business story on the business networks if that were true.

Originally Posted by the cool gut

It was - it's called the Vista train wreck. Business ran away from Windows in a panic. If you have proof showing otherwise - I'd love to see it.

Originally Posted by bizwarrior

My proof is the obvious domination of windows and linux in the business place When asked for proof of the move to mac you provide nothning! Enough said.

Originally Posted by the cool gut

Mac has 90% of the premium market - it's over. Microsoft has lost. Their revenue is plummeting and they are now borrowing money for day to day operations.

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

That's pretty funny. NO really,

220.66 Billion Dollars - Microsoft current Market Cap
154.64 Billion Dollars - Apple's current Market Cap

66.02 Billion dollars to go. How long will the iPhone and Touch hold up as popular?

Mac OS has been about the same low percentage of Market Share and has not gained more than a few points in 30 years.

Get a Phone that will Multi Task or Games over for Apple.

Originally Posted by Logisticaldron

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PS: Note that MS’ Windows is no position to fail at this time or at the hands of Apple. MS’ business model of supporting legacy HW, legacy APIs and supporting a multitude of PC vendors means that their business model of supporting corporate sales is no jeopardy. Perhaps in the future Chrome OS will reduce costs and be robust enough in browser-based apps that Windows will lose out, but that is still a theory and in no way a reality at this time.

Originally Posted by the cool gut
Mac has 90% of the premium market - it's over. Microsoft has lost. Their revenue is plummeting and they are now borrowing money for day to day operations.

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

You preaching to the wrong guy. Try telling it to the cool gut. He has a different view.

What Apple Fan's don't seem to realize is that MS is not threat as much as they hate them.
I'd be looking out for Google. They're hitting Apple in every Market except music.

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Just days before Apple is expected to unveil its new line of iPods, multiple reports are suggesting that some of the widely anticipated camera-equipped media players could be delayed due to technical difficulties. [Updated with info from Hardmac.]

A person with a strong track record in predicting Apple's upcoming product launches recently told AppleInsider that the iPod maker has experienced technical problems (bad parts) with the cameras modules. The person said that it was uncertain whether the new hardware, which has been widely expected to debut at Wednesday's "Only rock and roll" media-centric event, would make the cut for early September retail distribution.

The report echos one published earlier Monday by Hardmac, the English-language version of French Apple news site Macbidouille.

For months, photos of third-party cases for the iPod touch and iPod nano with camera holes have been surfacing online, leading most to believe that the new hardware was essentially a foregone conclusion at the Sept. 9 keynote. Though there have been no such cases to support a similar upgrade for the iPod classic, one rumor has implied Apple's only hard drive-based player could also see a photographic upgrade. At the time, reports suggested that the line would be receiving 3.2 megapixel CMOS image sensors -- the same lens currently available in the iPhone 3GS.

Rumors of the camera upgrade cropped up long before the case evidence surfaced, but in recent months the evidence has become more convincing. One person even took photos and video of what was alleged to be a third-generation iPod touch prototype with a camera. That person even provided a teardown of the device, showing its inner workings.

With the latest tip provided to AppleInsider, it is unclear whether the debut of iPods with cameras has been scrapped from the Sept. 9 event entirely, or if the products will simply not be available for sale for some time after an unveiling.



Apple's long-rumored tablet device, with a 10-inch touchscreen and 3G connectivity, is not expected to be at Wednesday's event. That product will likely see its debut in early 2010.

Originally Posted by brucep

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so many questions ??⌅

Originally Posted by SGSStateStudent

That's true and no, I have not tried Wolfenstein. But, Deadspace FTW!

Originally Posted by FuturePastNow

Technical problems? They're cellphone cameras. A billion of them are manufactured every year.

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

Its a supplier problem, but still Apple could keep an eye on QC a little bit better if they were made here instead in a slave labor factory in China.

Originally Posted by nvidia2008

Case in point. Wolfenstein was a great PC franchise that got raped by the consoles in the latest version. It's interesting so far, but no antialiasing (why am I not surprised) and the graphic engine is not that great for a 2009 title.

Dead Space would have been a sucky experience for PC gamers (fairly average textures, no antialiasing) if not for how fabulously creepy and mysterious it was... Just so freaky.

DX10 has been a complete sham. DX11? Yeah we'll see how many console ports in 2010 bother with DX10 or DX11, the way consoles are dominating the big game titles.

Originally Posted by SGSStateStudent

People are gonna complain that there's no MAC Tablet on an IPOD event.

Originally Posted by FuturePastNow

Technical problems? They're cellphone cameras. A billion of them are manufactured every year.

Originally Posted by NonVendorFan

... Snip..

So Kindly shut your holier than thou attitude and try using Macs OS to make money.
Until then Kindly GET OFF MY A*S YOU TR*LL.