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post #41 of 128
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Originally Posted by darwiniandude View Post

OS X does have handwriting recognition built in, and always has. You need a graphics tablet connected for 'Inkwell' to show up in System Preferences. This is what the Axiotron Modbook people have taken advantage of.

Agreed, I'd love Apple to make hardware to use this out the box. For me it would be for mainly artistic reasons, there is no way I can write as fast as I can type.

This is kind of cool use of Snow Leopard and multitouch trackpad. I have already used it to send a document with my signature on it without having to print it out and then scan it again for fax/email. Though it took me several tries to get it right.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...autograph.html
post #42 of 128
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Originally Posted by DCJ001 View Post

That may be because you're not using Windows 7 yet.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Win...DSoD,8620.html

As it happens, I am. I have no reason to share my files or printers so I guess it will continue to be that way. I did see this article earlier this morning and thought to myself how coincidental that this exploit appear just as I make a statement on BSOD.

All I'm trying to say if that the BSOD boogeyman is just that. People parade it around like it happens on an almost daily basis when it is simply not true. People can continue to hang on to that notion if they wish but they would be deluding themselves. Yes, applications do crash as they do on every operating system, and as you should expect, it doesn't bring the whole OS down.
post #43 of 128
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

Does it have an iDisk equivalent? Find my iPhone service? Remote wipe service? Contact and calendar syncing? That list is just going to grow as mobileme matures too. They are different services, the only thing that relates them is that they are online services.

Edit: You can get a lot of stuff free from other services, but iLife doesn't have them all. They are different services that share a couple common ones.

Dont forget the zero-config Back To My Mac and the auto-backing up of pretty much every desktop setting on a Mac that can be synced across multiple Macs.

Essentially, BeyondYourFrontDoor is correct in that pretty much every basic aspect of MobileMe is available for free, but there is no equivalent for every service that MM offers, much less one that is all inclusive and so simple for the end user.
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Originally Posted by halfyearsun View Post

Anecdotal evidence is only so effective. My friend just had her entire computer go BSOD a week ago. Windows XP i think.

True, anecdotal evidence is only so effective.
post #45 of 128
No real "pants on fire" lies here, just marketing distortions. And the truth is that MS and Apple really do have different business models that lead to a different set of pluses and minuses associated with both companies' products. Some of the advantages that MS touts really are advantages -- you can get more Hz or bytes for the same $$, you can get more choice in hardware configurations/style, and there is more software for Windows (although the only category where that's really noticeable to consumers is games). Similarly, the apple advantages are real, too -- Mac users simply do not have problems with viruses and malware (as we know, a theoretical "vulnerability" is not the same thing as a problem that affects real users), the flip side of fewer hardware choices is much greater stability and software/hardware integration, and Apple has an overall style and elegance that PCs don't (a point that is completely lost on some but matters a great deal to others).

The problem I see for MS is that while this same comparison favored MS 15 years ago, I think it actually favors Apple today. Fifteen years ago, when computers were MUCH more expensive, and an extra 25 MHz made a HUGE difference in real world experience, the PC advantages tended to trump the Mac advantages for most consumers. Today, though, marginal differences in Hz and bytes are almost imperceptible to consumers, computers are generally less expensive (so paying a little more for a Mac isn't as big of a deal), software development is a lot easier on the Mac than it used to be, and you really can run Windows programs at full speed on your Mac (thanks to Intel). Oh, and of course there's Steve Jobs -- Apple didn't have him 15 years ago, they do have him today, which means that the Apple business model is actually being implemented by the guy who invented it, not by some well-meaning but kind of clueless suits.

So the bottom line is that I don't think Apple has anything to fear from MS here, and MS is kidding themselves if they think that they can run the same talking points today that they ran 15 years ago. People no longer see computers as DIY tinker toys that they want/need to customize -- they see them as appliances that are expected to "just work". This clearly favors apple (and it's why Windows Mobile is a disaster and the iPhone a huge success).
post #46 of 128
I'm getting rid of my Macbook Pro and Mobile Me and swithing to WINDOWS!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAA
post #47 of 128
Don't forget to include the cost of maintenance utilities, such as a good disk defragmenter and registry cleaner, to keep your Windoze system's performance up to snuff.
post #48 of 128
Microsoft continues its arrogant posturing which clearly ignores the fact that the vast majority of 'real people' use computers as a means of communicating and getting their jobs done efficiently and effectively, not as some 'play thing'.
The vast majority of 'real people' do not need 1001 software tools that provide different (and often incompatible) ways of doing common tasks, or to choose from 1001 very similar hardware options, even if they may save $300 on purchase price which will be almost immediately be eaten up by higher ongoing support and maintenance costs and by lower resale value.
Microsoft's problem has always been that it only controls the software half of the so-called PC. Hence it, and its 3rd party hardware partners can only compete on cost and trivial (and often unnecessary) features. Apple, in stark contrast, effectively controls the design of both software and hardware. It can concentrate on quality of design and production, and features that 'real people' really need and can use with minimal effort. Apple is by no means perfect, but its business model will always be far better for the vast majority of people than Microsoft's business model.
If Microsoft could only stop wasting money on defending its inferior business model and spending more on providing customers with a seamless computing experience, we would all be far better off.
post #49 of 128
The good news: "It's possible to get a PC with the same hardware specs as a Mac and save up to $300," the second page says...

The bad news: You have to put up with Windows
post #50 of 128
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

Does it have an iDisk equivalent? Find my iPhone service? Remote wipe service? Contact and calendar syncing? That list is just going to grow as mobileme matures too. They are different services, the only thing that relates them is that they are online services.

Edit: You can get a lot of stuff free from other services, but iLife doesn't have them all. They are different services that share a couple common ones.

All right, let me go through the rest of it then... since you are too lazy to do your own research...

Yes, Live has iDisk - it's called SkyDrive. 25GB free. MobileMe gives you 20GB to split between Mail and iDisk. To double the storage to 40GB is $50 a year (cdn). It is $129 a year for MobileMe in Canada.

I don't have an iPhone, and don't actually live where there is cell-phone service. It is a neat feature that you can locate your phone, and wipe it. I imagine this must be possible on most GPS-equipped phones?

Contact and Calendar syncing? Yup. You can hook into it with Calgoo and that opens up other services like Google... if you like to mix and match... I actually use Yahoo for my contacts myself... To each his/her own.

Anyway, this debate could be endless... you can do a lot of the same things on both PC and Mac, because a lot of it is web-services based. For example, I can use SkyDrive on my Mac... Can a PC user use iDisk? Which is the more 'open' solution.

I have only kept my MobileMe account because I have too much money to worry about it... I also hope there are new things on the way, but right now it should be a $29 a year service... not a $129 a year service...
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Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor View Post

I also hope there are new things on the way, but right now it should be a $29 a year service... not a $129 a year service...

You have failed to address all the other services that MobileMe offers. Does Windows offer a built-in service for finding your WinMo-based phone and a way to wipe it cleanly? I know AT&T offers a locate feature for $3/month, but it only uses the cell tower, not the GPS chip. That is $36/year right there while being considerably less accurate and offering less options than the one Apple includes with MobileMe. What about a zero-config access and screen sharing to other Macs? Or how about the auto syncing of nearly all your desktop items, not just your calendar and contacts? You may not find these useful, but to say that the service should be cheaper because you don’t want to or can’t utilize all the features is foolish, at best. There is no other service that matches what MobileMe offers. It has saved me several times over the years back when it was iTools and .Mac, and now for the same $69/year I get even more features. It sounds like you are the one who is too lazy to do any research.
post #52 of 128
So I don't understand. Having a crapload of apps for Windows is seen by MS and its users as being a good thing.

Having a crapload of apps on the App Store is meaningless cause you know, its just a bunch of fart and flashlight apps.

Huhhhh......
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post #53 of 128
Another day, another eff up at Redmond.

This guys are going ballistic and are issuing out gestapo type tests of compliance to the poor souls who work at bestbuys of all types.

All of them with the usual tasteless touch of Redmond, dark green to light green background with white letters?

Who would have thought that they have a cokehead screaming unworldly noises and prancing around like a demented gorilla for their personal events. Boy does he love this company.

And then of course the typical, crass, illiterate errors all around. Like back when they issued the zune hd advance promo ad with the marketplace tag having the last e chopped off. This time around they chopped off the ' in "its [sic] possible to get a PC". Shouldn't the "grammar" error correction in word that the world on the whole has paid some trillions of $ for have picked that up? That somehow you can't structure its possible to? Let me give the algorithm for that Redmont: If string="its possible to" then output MS Bob and have him prance around a bit before he tells you this is an error.

Or maybe we 'll get this new error correcting feature word 2010, "added ability to detect it's and its type errors".

Don't you morons have a couple of people to read through the trash you publish? In hate to take the lords name in vane, but Jesus Christ Redmont, you sloppy sods.
While talking blatant lies and sheer garbage about the best os-es in the world, namely os-x and the linuxes, you might as well get a couple of kids with an A in spelling and grammar out of high school to go over your promo trash so you don't embarrass yourselves...

Of course there's no point going into an "arguments" discussion with them...

Don't worry Redmond, keep that spectacular fall of yours, and you ll figure it out by the huge bump on your behinds and the dreadful noise when you hit rock bottom.
post #54 of 128
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Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor View Post


I don't have an iPhone, and don't actually live where there is cell-phone service. It is a neat feature that you can locate your phone, and wipe it. I imagine this must be possible on most GPS-equipped phones?

Yeah well, I don't have four kids and their grandma and it's snowing like hell from where i am from, but I got me a station wagon fully equipped with three child car seats and an easy access with a step for senior citizens plus a sunroof. And you know what. I regret my purchase because I couldn have gotten a cheap vw polo for much less money. And nowadays seeing all those empty seats on the wagon and that big snowed over sunroof that I can't even open up, I go crap, these things are way too overpriced and I moan and groan at them cause I can't really stomach how I got something almost irrelevant to my needs.

btw, just for your safety you might want to read ms privacy policy for their free services. They are known to be very sensitive to this kind of stuff. Sensitive if you try to interfere with their right to do whatever the heck they want with your information.
post #55 of 128
This reminds me why I don't buy stuff there.

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post #56 of 128
Windows PCs are $300 cheaper than Macs. That leaves $300 they'll need to anti-virus software and Geek Squad service when their junk-ass PC crashes.
post #57 of 128
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Originally Posted by LoonyPandora View Post

Not going out of your way to advertise a competitors services isn't exactly "lying" - This presentation is just about right for a PC orientated sales pitch.

Apple Sales Training is just as biased.

Move along, nothing to see here...

yep. selective truth telling is the name of the game. and totally allowed so long as you don't get into brute facts. that is where things get messy. all you need is one actual price quoted in an ad to get yourself in a mess when the other side changes said price and suddenly you are getting sued for false advertising cause you ran the old price for six weeks after the change was made.

i question if Microsoft actually wrote this material or if they are listed on it to be in compliance with trademark. this looks more like something Worst Buy would create. then again Microsoft did pay for ads pushing hardware over their software as the selling point, so maybe they did have a hand in this little snickerfest

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post #58 of 128
It's stuff such as this that make me really proud to be a member of this forum.

Very interesting about the analysis of what the "I'm a PC" customers actually got especially for the older users such as Lauren the law student.
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btw wasn't Redmond about to have their own retails stores, "inspired" by apple's success. Where's that great idea gone now? Some hip places those would have been: "you can get windows 7 with this crap pc, or we can a find you a crappier one for $200 less, and if you prefer vista you can even go super crappy for 400$, for xp and netbooks we shall be paying you."
post #60 of 128
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Originally Posted by jlandd View Post

Unfortunately for Apple fans who work in sales, not only are Mac margins lower but there's practically no opportunity for upsells, while the PC world lives on them.
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actually research has shown that there are major markups on Macs. that laptop that costs you $1699 plus tax cost them like $400 to build.

also on upsells. you are wrong. there are 3 biggies that are pushed with every sale (as I noticed going shopping myself and then with 6 friends over the summer)

1. AppleCare
2. MobileMe
3. OnetoOne

what is interesting about the training stuff is the 'services' and costs that Best Buy is pushing. if I just went for the first and 3 I walk out with 3 years from date of purchase tech support and repairs on any defects (if I drop it, spill something on it or lose it, i'm hosed) and a years training on all the Apple software. Including setting up my email etc. plus they will do a data transfer from my old PC or Mac to my new one, give me my first class at time of pickup (the next evening) and install any software I bought with the machine, install any ram etc.

so the question becomes is all that piece meal stuff more or less expensive than the up to $449 I just dished out

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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

Why point out anything about Macs (remember the miniscule market percentage?) unless the customer brings it up?

indeed. as I noted above I've been a part of 7 Mac buys over the summer and not once did I hear an Apple sales person bring up anything about Windows without a direct question from the buyer (including overhearing folks around us)

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Originally Posted by Chug View Post

You mean like what Apple does?


True that Apple does take pot shots at Windows, but at least they choice the shots based on actual complaints about Windows that are all over the blogosphere. so they aren't totally baseless shots.

some of the laptop ads are just bad because anyone that did any research would know that Apple beats whatever the person got. better resolution, better battery etc than the chosen machine. The one that really makes me laugh was the so called filmmaker. anyone with the balls to use that term with a straight face is going to be using something hella better than Windows Movie Maker (very likely Final Cut or Media Composer) and would need either a Mac or a way better PC than what was picked.

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Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor View Post

Windows Live doesn't offer email? (Hotmail) Doesn't host photos? (Live Photos - 25GB free storage) What else doesn't it do?

I think the more valuable point is that although you can find free or very cheap alternatives to 90% of the MobileMe talking points, they aren't in one place like you get with MobileMe. And they aren't always as easy to configure or work with compared to the integration of MobileMe to the various Mac softwares.

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And, it's tough to call iLife 'free'. If it is free, then what are we paying for when we buy a Mac?

point on that. you really do have to take into account that you are paying for the OS and iLife with your computer. they are not actually 'free'

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Lastly, selling a Mac as a 'multi version of windows' machine is completely counter-intuitive to your whole argument.

I could be wrong but I believe the argument was more that when you buy a Mac, thanks to Boot Camp, you are buying a machine that can run MacOS, Windows or Linux. So if you needed all 3 you don't have to actually buy 3 machines. And you don't have to HackenLinux/HackenWindows the machine to make it work.

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I love Mac, and would never go back.

Agreed. I would never get a PC again. But like you I do a lot of creative work, which is where Mac's strength lies, particularly in software.

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Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post

Dont forget the zero-config Back To My Mac

since we are talking about selective truths in advertising, lets be fair, it's not 'zero-config'. there are 2-3 prefs panels to play on. across two machines.

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post #61 of 128
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actually research has shown that there are major markups on Macs. that laptop that costs you $1699 plus tax cost them like $400 to build.

Retailer margins, not Apples margin
post #62 of 128
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Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post

You have failed to address all the other services that MobileMe offers. Does Windows offer a built-in service for finding your WinMo-based phone and a way to wipe it cleanly? I know AT&T offers a locate feature for $3/month, but it only uses the cell tower, not the GPS chip. That is $36/year right there while being considerably less accurate and offering less options than the one Apple includes with MobileMe. What about a zero-config access and screen sharing to other Macs? Or how about the auto syncing of nearly all your desktop items, not just your calendar and contacts? You may not find these useful, but to say that the service should be cheaper because you don’t want to or can’t utilize all the features is foolish, at best. There is no other service that matches what MobileMe offers. It has saved me several times over the years back when it was iTools and .Mac, and now for the same $69/year I get even more features. It sounds like you are the one who is too lazy to do any research.

All what other services? I am logged in to me .Mac right now (.Me... whatever) and it has Mail, Address Book, Calendar, Gallery, iDisk and Settings. They used to have a small web-site tool, but they took that away. But, you can still host 1 site on your .Me account (but they won't host the domain).

You don't need .Mac for screen sharing. I did that with Remote Desktop years ago on a PC, and use Screen Sharing on the Mac now... no MobileMe required. Syncing all my desktop items? Like what? My bookmarks? I have an easy way to sync my files... it's called a laptop...

Anyway... you're trying to convince the wrong person. I have a Mac, and I have MobileMe. I have an iPod Touch, a Nano, a Macbook, Airport Extreme, Airport Express, Logic, Final Cut, and iWork... So, I'm about as Apple as it gets.

All I am trying to say, is putting on the blinders and saying 'MobileMe is the ONLY way to go' is not true. It is good for the small set of tools that it is, but it needs to expand and grow because there is a ton of stuff in the works from the likes of Google, MS, and even Facebook. How about letting me load my iTunes to a .Mac account and stream them to another computer? Maybe I can get a domain hosted for my money? I dunno... but they have to keep it moving to keep it relevant.

Apple isn't oblivious to this - look at iPhoto - it syncs to Flickr and Facebook, as well as MobileMe Gallery. iMovie? Exports to YouTube. Apple's success will be because they are open to cooperation, and they can be, when they make lots of money on the hardware. All MS has is their software, and the more secrets they give away, the less they are worth. It's just two different models, and for the time being, Apple's is the more successful. But, just like GeoCities gave way to MySpace gave way to Facebook - you are always one good idea from your company being famous, or extinct.
post #63 of 128
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Originally Posted by Chug View Post

You mean like what Apple does?

There is a difference between attacking and educating consumers about the facts.
post #64 of 128
So?

Let them push their talking points.

Doesn't change the fact that MS is now the Yugo of the tech industry.

The public conception, the professional opinions, the consumer preferences all point to one very simple, very clear, very obvious conclusion:

Apple has proven itself the single most innovative and profitable consumer technology company in the world today. Apples record quarters - in a recession, record Mac sales - in a recession, stellar reputation, customer satidsfaction ratings year after year, don't lie.
post #65 of 128
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Originally Posted by mdcat View Post

The good news: "It's possible to get a PC with the same hardware specs as a Mac and save up to $300," the second page says...

The bad news: You have to put up with Windows

MS seems to think the OS doesn't matter.

Which is also why they're now feeding off the bottom. LOL, such dumbasses.
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Originally Posted by jfanning View Post

Retailer margins, not Apples margin

Hubba whoba? You mean you can get it cheaper at Apple's web-site or own store? I think not. You can save a few dollars at MacMall and such, but a true Mac 'sale' on a new product only comes once a year to the Apple store... web or retail.
post #67 of 128
The author says that iLife is free because it comes with a new Mac but Windows 7 Professional cost you $300?

Haven't you heard that a lot of PCs do have Windows pre-installed? So from this perspective it's also "free".

What is the author talking about Quartz Composer as an equivalent to Desktop Themes? Seriously? Can't you see how cool it is to switch wallpaper slideshows, window transparency and color, sound scheme and screensaver with just two clicks? Maybe before a presentation? And you even can download complete themes.

Criticizing Windows Live and not even know Writer, SkyDrive or Sync speaks for itself...

What is this here, journalism?
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

The one that really makes me laugh was the so called filmmaker. anyone with the balls to use that term with a straight face is going to be using something hella better than Windows Movie Maker (very likely Final Cut or Media Composer) and would need either a Mac or a way better PC than what was picked.

He was probably the "filmmaker" responsible for bang bros an bang bus, that's what ms styled their adds after: the short scenes with frequent cuts, the drive ins and outs of malls and residential areas, the reality feel, all down to the girl and boy next door getting picked off the street, and the money scene with the dishing of the cash out in front of the girls face. Of course it's not much of an aesthetic to push a technological product (no matter how crap it might be) by means of copying a sub par porn network's preview clips, but to each his own.
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

MS seems to think the OS doesn't matter.

What? Didn't they try to make some points about Windows 7 features?
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Originally Posted by TiAdiMundo View Post

T Can't you see how cool it is to switch wallpaper slideshows, window transparency and color, sound scheme and screensaver with just two clicks?

It's not real cool to switch between them when all of them are crap. A good interface has doesn't have tens choices all of them godawful. It has a few crucial ones to customize.
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Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor View Post

Mac is a premium brand, and I have the resources to buy it... and I rather like it being a bit more exclusive...

Maybe you should stay "BehindYourFrontDoor"
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

It's not real cool to switch between them when all of them are crap. A good interface has doesn't have tens choices all of them godawful. It has a few crucial ones to customize.

It's your fault if you don't like the themes you have created yourself.
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

since we are talking about selective truths in advertising, lets be fair, it's not 'zero-config'. there are 2-3 prefs panels to play on. across two machines.

Zero-config refers to Bonjour, formerly known as Rendevous, more specifically Wide Area Bonjour, a service discovery protocol that means that once you put in your username and password and turn on the service you never have to know the IP address of the machine you wish to connect to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf

BeyondYourFrontDoor thinks that installing Apple Remote Desktop or some other such app, locating the IP address of the machine you wish to connect to via the IP address, putting in that info after you have turned on screen sharing and opened the appropriate ports is the same as a simple BackToMyMac feature included in MobileMe. I have used such features for years but BackToMyMac makes this so easy. It in itself is worth the $69/year to me.
post #74 of 128
I used to work in electronic sales and ALL companies use these strategies...there is very little profit margins in electronics and especially PC's where you can comparison shop on-line with a click of a mouse and everyone is competing for a lower price to reel you in. Retails chains make their money on "extended warranties/service plans/tech help" whatever they call it its all the same and then all the accessories (especially anything Monster Cable) and software add ons. Sales people are threatened that if they don't upgrade the customer or sale a certain percentage of "service plans" you will be fired period. In this case, Bestbuy, will be monitoring Windows 7 PC sales and I guarantee they will offer some sort of financial incentive for the PC sales people to sell more Windows machines.
Do people still buy electronics in stores...WHY? LOL
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Originally Posted by iCarbon View Post

My god! I'm selling my mac and buying a PC!!!!!

what have I been thinking all these years!

Too funny
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post #76 of 128
Haven't read any of the posts, but...

This is just so... so... so... Microsoft! They build a promo Ad campaign that focuses on their deficiencies.

Mike Kenney said it best, years ago: What an oaf they [Microsoft] are!

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post #77 of 128
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Originally Posted by darwiniandude View Post

OS X does have handwriting recognition built in, and always has. You need a graphics tablet connected for 'Inkwell' to show up in System Preferences. This is what the Axiotron Modbook people have taken advantage of.

Agreed, I'd love Apple to make hardware to use this out the box. For me it would be for mainly artistic reasons, there is no way I can write as fast as I can type.

I am quite aware of Inkwell and the lovely Modbook. I am even considered a Modbook a few months ago. Apple is also at least a decade behind MS's handwriting recognition. Go do a search on youtube to see a nice comparison between the two. Light years ahead. MUCH more accurate, multi-language support...I can input Japanese and Korean with ease, tighter integration with software.

The Modbook is not about handwriting recognition...it is 100% about drawing (and some minor DJ programs that are very cool). The Modbook does not make a great tablet computer for day-to-day business use...too big and heavy, plus it uses energy like crazy. It IS an stupendous portable drawing tablet!!!! None of the PC tablets can compare to it in that catagory.

But hardware aside, MS still wins, hands-down, in this catagory...why, Apple, why? My biggest fear is that we will get a tablet that is either just a larger iPod Touch that runs Apps or, worse yet, a true OSX-based computer that doesn't accept stylus input, only Multi-touch.
post #78 of 128
At this point in time, who the fuck gives a DAMN about Microsoft? Or their products.

Who cares what they say or do? They spend billions to "develop" software that doesn't even approach the barest mediocrity, yet somehow some have convinced themselves that MS produces things that are barely good enough.

Go ahead.... pay MS to abuse you, waste your time and take your money. What a deal!
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post #79 of 128
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Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post

At this point in time, who the fuck gives a DAMN about Microsoft? Or their products.

Who cares what they say or do? They spend billions to "develop" software that doesn't even approach the barest mediocrity, yet somehow some have convinced themselves that MS produces things that are barely good enough.

Go ahead.... pay MS to abuse you, waste your time and take your money. What a deal!

And using foul language is going to help you make a point...how? Emotional baggage much? What did MS do to you as as a small child?
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Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post

Dont forget the zero-config Back To My Mac and the auto-backing up of pretty much every desktop setting on a Mac that can be synced across multiple Macs.

Essentially, BeyondYourFrontDoor is correct in that pretty much every basic aspect of MobileMe is available for free, but there is no equivalent for every service that MM offers, much less one that is all inclusive and so simple for the end user.

and also, the really easy and seamless integration of MobilMe and its Gallery with iPhoto and iMovie in particular is simply the best available. instant uploads/downloads from inside the programs, auto folder synch updating, auto file size scaling, etc. works with iPhone too. Google, MS, nobody else has it all together in one "ecosystem."
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