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Before it took its online store down Wednesday, Apple lowered the prices of many of its iPod offerings, with the 32GB iPod touch seeing the largest price drop, from $399 to $279.

In addition, the 16GB iPod touch dropped from $299 to $249 and the 8GB model fell from $229 to $189. On the iPod nano side, the 16GB capacity decreased to $149 (from $189), and the 8GB offering slid to $129 (from $149). Finally, the iPod classic had its price cut to $229 (from $249).

Unsurprisingly, the Apple Store was taken down around 10 a.m. Wednesday, in preparation for the announcement of new products.

That means that before Apple even announces any products today, as it is planned to do, the iPod maker has already undercut the price of Microsoft's upcoming Zune HD, set to launch Sept. 15 with a 32GB model for $290. Prior to Wednesday's price cuts, the comparable iPod touch model was more than $100 more expensive than the forthcoming Microsoft product -- now, Apple has bested its rival to the north by $10.

However, when pitting the 16GB models against each other, Microsoft still comes out ahead by $30.



Apple today is widely expected to unveil a new iPod touch with a camera. Speculation suggests that one model will offer 64GB, and the morning price cuts have likely set the stage for that spot in the lineup.



While Apple normally takes down its store to implement changes and build hype, it did not before the iPod price drops. Instead, the hardware maker waited until later, just before its scheduled keynote, set for 10 a.m. Pacific Time (1 p.m. Eastern).

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Apple lowered the prices of many of its iPod offerings overnight, prior to today's event, with the 32GB iPod touch seeing the largest price drop, from $399 to $279.

In addition, the 16GB iPod touch dropped from $299 to $249 and the 8GB model fell from $229 to $189. On the iPod nano side, the 16GB capacity decreased to $149 (from $189), and the 8GB offering slid to $129 (from $149). Finally, the iPod classic had its price cut to $229 (from $249).

That means that before Apple even announces any products today, as it is planned to do, the iPod maker has already undercut the price of Microsoft's upcoming Zune HD, set to launch Sept. 15 with a 32GB model for $290. Prior to Wednesday's price cuts, the comparable iPod touch model was more than $100 more expensive than the forthcoming Microsoft product -- now, Apple has bested its rival to the north by $10.

However, when pitting the 16GB models against each other, Microsoft still comes out ahead by $30.



Apple today is widely expected to unveil a new iPod touch with a camera. Speculation suggests that one model will offer 64GB, and the morning price cuts have likely set the stage for that spot in the lineup.



While Apple normally takes down its store to implement changes and build hype, this time it did not.

Hell yeah, if the Classic stays it will be mine.. i have a Touch but I've 60gb of music on iTunes and that 8GB on my Touch and 32GB on my 3GS is not enough!
post #3 of 68
It does have the slightly crappy side effect that the ipod touch 32gb now costs more £s than it does $s despite a 1.6 exchange rate.

Hopefully they'll fix that very quickly, or at least pass on the £10 cut on the classic, which is what I actually want. (although a £199 32gb touch starts to make me waver)
post #4 of 68
Looks like a gap for a 64GB iPod Touch for $399 to me and perhaps even a 32GB iPod Nano!
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Sucks if you bought one recently, especially the 32GB.

This lends credence to the rumour that the new iPods will be slightly delayed. These prices allow Apple to compete against the ZuneHD without a problem for the next couple of weeks or so until the new product is available.

Either that, or Apple want a firesale of existing iPods to clear the way for the new iPods.

Or Apple is going to keep on offering the current iPods alongside the newer "iPod Touch S" that also includes GPS.
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Sucks if you bought one recently, especially the 32GB.

This lends credence to the rumour that the new iPods will be slightly delayed. These prices allow Apple to compete against the ZuneHD without a problem for the next couple of weeks or so until the new product is available.

Either that, or Apple want a firesale of existing iPods to clear the way for the new iPods.

Or Apple is going to keep on offering the current iPods alongside the newer "iPod Touch S" that also includes GPS.

Or they have a lot of inventory to shift. Who knows? The price drops are remarkable, though.
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Or they have a lot of inventory to shift. Who knows? The price drops are remarkable, though.

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Originally Posted by Hattig View Post

Sucks if you bought one recently, especially the 32GB.

This lends credence to the rumour that the new iPods will be slightly delayed. These prices allow Apple to compete against the ZuneHD without a problem for the next couple of weeks or so until the new product is available.

Either that, or Apple want a firesale of existing iPods to clear the way for the new iPods.

Or Apple is going to keep on offering the current iPods alongside the newer "iPod Touch S" that also includes GPS.

Yeah... This means that the new iPod Touch 64GB (I don't think it will be called "S" though) with Camera and iPod Nano 32GB with Camera will be delayed as you indicate. So, Apple, to buffer against shortages of these top models, will continue to offer all these previous models so that they can move large amounts of all iPods and not suffer too much from stock shortages of new models.

Shuffle prices not affected which suggest they will probably replace Shuffle with a new model or drop it completely to focus on higher-margin Nano, Classic and Touch.

I think there will be no 160GB classic. 120GB will be the model to last another year probably before it is discontinued sometime next year.

Okay, see y'all on the flipside. Have a good rock and roll event.
post #8 of 68
As I've mentioned in other posts, the next logical move for Apple is to introduce a Touch with a larger screen. It has been Apple's habit to continue to sell a previous gen product at a reduced price while introducing something new, as is the case with the Classic.

It would not be out of the realm of possibility that we'll see Apple continue to sell current models at lower prices while bringing to market a new device with a larger screen, etc. beginning at the $399 price point. Nearly double screen real estate to enhance browsing and video presentation, offering a 32GB at $399 and a 64GB for $499. Coupled with a screen in the 5" to 7" range, you'd have a compelling alternative to a netbook for some applications like browsing, watching video, reading ebooks, and the like.

I want such a device so maybe this is more a matter of wishful thinking than thinking this through logically. In a few hours, we'll have the answer.
post #9 of 68
Regarding Apple not having any new product to announce today because of an apparent delay due to technical problems with video components, that suggests there is a new product about to be revealed, otherwise today's event would not have been allowed to stamd.
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When will the event be? How many hours from now?

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post #11 of 68
Anyone else think it funny how direct price comparisons are made between the old Ipod Touch and the new Zune HD?

I hope Apple releases OLED Ipods at today's event or they will face some serious competition with Microsoft's soon to be released offering. The HD playback and the screen on the Zune HD will put some serious hurt in the Apple portable camp if they don't upgrade today. Apple makes incredibly high quality stuff but OLED displays are the future.
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Hell yeah, if the Classic stays it will be mine.. i have a Touch but I've 60gb of music on iTunes and that 8GB on my Touch and 32GB on my 3GS is not enough!


Since my 3gs won't store all my music either, I just use slacker and pandora for stuff I don't want to carry around
post #13 of 68
Apple has a policy where it will refund the difference in any price cuts within I think ten days of purchase.

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Originally Posted by Hattig View Post

Sucks if you bought one recently, especially the 32GB.

This lends credence to the rumour that the new iPods will be slightly delayed. These prices allow Apple to compete against the ZuneHD without a problem for the next couple of weeks or so until the new product is available.

Either that, or Apple want a firesale of existing iPods to clear the way for the new iPods.

Or Apple is going to keep on offering the current iPods alongside the newer "iPod Touch S" that also includes GPS.
post #14 of 68
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Anyone else think it funny how direct price comparisons are made between the old Ipod Touch and the new Zune HD?

I hope Apple releases OLED Ipods at today's event or they will face some serious competition with Microsoft's soon to be released offering. The HD playback and the screen on the Zune HD will put some serious hurt in the Apple portable camp if they don't upgrade today. Apple makes incredibly high quality stuff but OLED displays are the future.

OLED= No. I'll bet on that.
The announcement later will see the iPod Touch gain a faster processor and a 3.2mp camera without video and have 64GB memory IMO.
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Anyone else think it funny how direct price comparisons are made between the old Ipod Touch and the new Zune HD?

I hope Apple releases OLED Ipods at today's event or they will face some serious competition with Microsoft's soon to be released offering. The HD playback and the screen on the Zune HD will put some serious hurt in the Apple portable camp if they don't upgrade today. Apple makes incredibly high quality stuff but OLED displays are the future.

You're funny!
post #16 of 68
Interesting...Apple screwed up updating their website.

When you look at the main page of the Apple Store, it still says, for the Classic for example, "just $249" but the product page reflects the new lower $249. Similarly, it says "iPod touch from $229" while the lowest price touch on the product page is $189.

Not sure if that means anything, but maybe the lower prices were a last-minute decision and they rushed the web site update.
post #17 of 68
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Yeah... This means that the new iPod Touch 64GB (I don't think it will be called "S" though) with Camera and iPod Nano 32GB with Camera will be delayed as you indicate. So, Apple, to buffer against shortages of these top models, will continue to offer all these previous models so that they can move large amounts of all iPods and not suffer too much from stock shortages of new models.

Shuffle prices not affected which suggest they will probably replace Shuffle with a new model or drop it completely to focus on higher-margin Nano, Classic and Touch.

I think there will be no 160GB classic. 120GB will be the model to last another year probably before it is discontinued sometime next year.

Okay, see y'all on the flipside. Have a good rock and roll event.

+1. Here are my guesses. See if they come true.
iPod Shuffle- Major Redesign with buttons. No price cuts.
iPod Nano- Slight redesign with 32GB option. 2m.p Camera without video.
iPod Classic- No redesign. 160GB only option is back again.
iPod Touch- No redesign save the camera area. 3.2 mp camera with video (maybe) and 64GB option.

That's all for the iPod upgrades I guess..
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Originally Posted by rmm21 View Post

Anyone else think it funny how direct price comparisons are made between the old Ipod Touch and the new Zune HD?

I hope Apple releases OLED Ipods at today's event or they will face some serious competition with Microsoft's soon to be released offering. The HD playback and the screen on the Zune HD will put some serious hurt in the Apple portable camp if they don't upgrade today. Apple makes incredibly high quality stuff but OLED displays are the future.

On a screen the size of the Touch, HD is ridiculous overkill.

Instead, Apple will offer their old technology to compete with the Zune and release a new product that Microsoft and the others will not catch up on until Apple releases yet another innovative device. In other words, Apple aspires to be one step ahead and not reveal in advance what's coming next. So the old Touch for less money takes on the Zune and a bigger form factor debuts to take this to the next level.

The best way to do that is to misdirect by making some believe a large tablet is the next big thing and that it's still a ways off. Meanwhile a larger Touch, using a screen in the 5" to 7" range, comes in under the radar, rendering the Zune irrelevant.
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Since my 3gs won't store all my music either, I just use slacker and pandora for stuff I don't want to carry around

Ha. I currently carry along my 8GB Touch for music and videos while I lug along my 32GB 3GS with MORE songs and videos than the Touch for only calls, photos and maybe some apps like organising stuff and a couple of games. My iPhone is more of a work and study device with only 2 fancy apps and 2 games. The rest are all professional , study, utilities ( find me a restaurant )and work related.

PS: I have 8 pages of apps on both my Touch and 3GS.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

Interesting...Apple screwed up updating their website.

When you look at the main page of the Apple Store, it still says, for the Classic for example, "just $249" but the product page reflects the new lower $249. Similarly, it says "iPod touch from $229" while the lowest price touch on the product page is $189.

Not sure if that means anything, but maybe the lower prices were a last-minute decision and they rushed the web site update.

Possibly. Several other pages have this conflicting information, but I am noticing updates as we speak.
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On a screen the size of the Touch, HD is ridiculous overkill.

Instead, Apple will offer their old technology to compete with the Zune and release a new product that Microsoft and the others will not catch up on until Apple releases yet another innovative device. In other words, Apple aspires to be one step ahead and not reveal in advance what's coming next. So the old Touch for less money takes on the Zune and a bigger form factor debuts to take this to the next level.

The best way to do that is to misdirect by making some believe a large tablet is the next big thing and that it's still a ways off. Meanwhile a larger Touch, using a screen in the 5" to 7" range, comes in under the radar, rendering the Zune irrelevant.

+1. However, bigger screen iPod Touch = Not happening.
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When will the event be? How many hours from now?

Today ( 9/9/09 ) For me it begins in another 7 more hours.
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Or they have a lot of inventory to shift. Who knows? The price drops are remarkable, though.

True. Apple has been doing a lot of price drops this year.
post #24 of 68
This is going to be a very boring event if all there is are new iPods w/cameras.
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This is going to be a very boring event if all there is are new iPods w/cameras.

Then you should expect to be bored.

Some of us will not be.
post #26 of 68
I can't imagine why you'd buy a 16gb touch when the 32gb is only $30 more. They should probably just discontinue the 16gb model.
post #27 of 68
These new price differentials are asinine.
$60 difference between 8 and 16 gb yet only $30 between 16 and 32Gb.
Makes you think what these are really worth and how much Apple has overpriced them to begin with.
May Microsoft continue to get Apple to drop prices. The consumer wins hands down everytime there is competition.
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Then you should expect to be bored.

Some of us will not be.

Fanboys would watch paint dry at an Apple event and think it mind blowing.
post #29 of 68
Still holding out hope that they'll make a Touch with a HDD.
Flash storage for apps, pics, etc; HDD for gobs and gobs of music and movies.

And these price cuts are weird. If it's to shift inventory, wouldn't they have done it before they announced the updated version is definitely around the corner? Particularly if the updated touch is carrying a 3.2mp video camera.
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And these price cuts are weird. If it's to shift inventory, wouldn't they have done it before they announced the updated version is definitely around the corner? Particularly if the updated touch is carrying a 3.2mp video camera.

Looks like a slick attempt to pre-empt any MS Zune talking points regarding pricing. May all the prices continue to drop- it only benefits the consumer.
They had to wait until after the back-to-school promotion - otherwise it wouldn't look like you were getting a great deal on savings.
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Apple lowered the prices of many of its iPod offerings overnight, prior to today's event, with the 32GB iPod touch seeing the largest price drop, from $399 to $279.

In addition, the 16GB iPod touch dropped from $299 to $249 and the 8GB model fell from $229 to $189. On the iPod nano side, the 16GB capacity decreased to $149 (from $189), and the 8GB offering slid to $129 (from $149). Finally, the iPod classic had its price cut to $229 (from $249).

With these new "clearance" prices on the year-old iPod models, we now know the minimum possible price for the new iPods (excepting the shuffle). The new ones will very likely cost more if these current models remain and coexist in the lineup for awhile. So say goodbye to the rumored $99 nano, or $149 touch. While the rumored $299/$399 for the 32/64GB iPod touch looks very likely, the rumored $199 for the 16GB model is impossible if the old 16GB one is still $249.

It's looking like we're going to be underwhelmed by the pricing. The feature set had better be bumped up significantly to compensate.
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These new price differentials are asinine.
$60 difference between 8 and 16 gb yet only $30 between 16 and 32Gb.
Makes you think what these are really worth and how much Apple has overpriced them to begin with.
May Microsoft continue to get Apple to drop prices. The consumer wins hands down everytime there is competition.

The 16GB model looks mispriced. It should be $209-219 or at most $229. Maybe Apple has a ton of 32GB units in inventory, and very few 16GB units.
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post #33 of 68
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Still holding out hope that they'll make a Touch with a HDD.
Flash storage for apps, pics, etc; HDD for gobs and gobs of music and movies.

And these price cuts are weird. If it's to shift inventory, wouldn't they have done it before they announced the updated version is definitely around the corner? Particularly if the updated touch is carrying a 3.2mp video camera.

Happy waiting then!
post #34 of 68
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Looks like a gap for a 64GB iPod Touch for $399 to me and perhaps even a 32GB iPod Nano!

The new 32Gb price does make it look like a 64GB model is likely now at $399. The pricing structure of only a $30 difference between the 16GB and 32GB Touch is a bit unusual, but there are many reasons as to why.
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The new 32Gb price does make it look like a 64GB model is likely now at $399. The pricing structure of only a $30 difference between the 16GB and 32GB Touch is a bit unusual, but there are many reasons as to why.

And of course, in your typical fashion, you would post not but one.
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+1. However, bigger screen iPod Touch = Not happening.

The main reason the Touch is the size it is is because that's the optimal size for a smart phone. But if you were developing a browser/ebook reader/portable gaming platform, which is what the Touch has morphed into, you would be looking for more screen real estate.

Consider that the average wallet is about an inch wider than a Touch, i.e. pockets can accommodate a bigger Touch. What's not to like about a pocketable version of the Touch with a more enjoyable to use screen size if, in fact, the price point would be similar to what the existing Touch had sold for prior to today?

I think that projecting that a 10" tablet would be the next step in the iPod's development has been effective at confusing a lot of observers.

I would by no means be surprised if the Touch + failed to materialize today. On the other hand, this drop in the price of existing Touch models suggests Apple is up to something bigger than many are anticipating.
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Fanboys would watch paint dry at an Apple event and think it mind blowing.

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And of course, in your typical fashion, you would post not but one.

Ive tried hand holding with you to get you to understand the basics of common sense, logic, and even business practices. The truth is that most people dont need to be spoon fed the potential reasons and you wont understand them if they were explained, so what is the point of stating points that are obvious to everyone else but you?
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I’ve tried hand holding with you to get you to understand the basics of common sense, logic, and even business practices. The truth is that most people don’t need to be spoon fed the potential reasons and you won’t understand them if they were explained, so what is the point of stating points that are obvious to everyone else but you?

A poor excuse for a lame posting. No one else would make that kind of statement without listing a couple of examples except for yourself. The fact is that your points are probably illogical anyway so please spare us for them.
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Now the store has been taken down...
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