Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Obviously you're angry but there's no need to lie. Zune HD is not cheaper. It also doesn't play games which is the primary use of the iPod touch.
Zune HD is cheaper. $219 for 16GB and $289 for 32GB. The iPod touch is 8GB for $199 and $299 for 32GB. Yes, you can get an iPod Touch 8GB for less, but overall the Zune HD is cheaper.http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...ional-details/
Shows Zune HD with a games menu. Microsoft has also confirmed there will be games. Will there be as many good games as the iPod Touch, will they be better or worse quality? Only time will tell.
The least Apple could have done is brought FM Radio to its entire lineup.
There are pros and cons to both platforms as I see it, but to dismiss that Apple didn't miss the boat in the minds of many people today is wrong. Go read Engadget and other sites where people are saying this makes their decision and the decision is Zune HD.
Quit being fanbois, and actually have a proper discussion. Yes the old Zune have been overall failures, but Microsoft had a tendency to try, try, try again and then get it right. Even the original Xbox was statiscally better than the PS2, so the Zunes have had better pricing and specs (such as Radio, WiFi Sync) The Radio features and tagging songs is great, something that the iPod Nano has embraced. The Zune is good for Apple, it helps them push foward. But I think this time around Apple seems to think like all of you, that the Zune is not worth competing against. I remember how the Zune 16 basically forced the arrival of the iPod Nano 16GB, as we saw iPod Nano 4GBs get quickly discontinued.
To ignore the better specs like Radio, OLED and not implement them can work or this could be the time Microsoft goes ahead. And I think many of you also ignore that the Zune HD is also a testing ground for Windows Mobile 7. Sure Windows Mobile is now a failure for the most part... it was designed in 2000 as PocketPC 2000 and has had limited upgrades since then. The problem was Microsoft was not innovative beyond the original creation of the platform. Apple seems to be stepping on that same problem with the iPods in my opinion. Video Camera is just flash, and I was hoping for OLED or FM/HD Radio. Apple needs to innovate, and the LP stuff is great but Zune HDs have comparible stuff on the Zune device itself and for free. It should be the first with OLED, first with HD Radio, it should compete with Tegra because they we are really talking games.
The fact remains, beyond hardware and iTunes the biggest focus was games and Microsoft has a clear advantage in the expertise of the Xbox and its connections. Someone commented and misread that Sony was gonna help Microsoft. No, what I said was that Microsoft has taken exclusive after exclusive away from Sony, and that getting software titles to end up on a Microsoft Platform is one of Microsofts key skills.